Extra Magic Hour Gripes?

[wdwishes2005]

ughhhh once again people need to use the proper terms. you are not forced out of the parks for EMH, its not like they hunt you down and threaten you to leave, you just cant go on rides.

 

[AbsolutDiznee]

I believe that e-ride was not too popular. And in the end wasn't profitable for Disney.

I could be wrong.

well as an off-siter, i'm not saying i would pay for it. but as long as I had the opportunity to participate if i wanted to, it would satisfy me. Why can't they come up with a compromise where resort guests get emh for free (included in their room rate) and off-siters pay a nominal fee?

 

[wdwishes2005]

Oh, so they don't hunt guests down, like they do at the Hunted Mansion.

lol

 

[afr117]

If my memory is correct, the last e-ride night I went to at Magic Kingdom only had tickets/wristbands available to on property resort or Hotel Plaza guests who had park hoppers or annual passes. :veryconfu

 

[Shaman]

well as an off-siter, i'm not saying i would pay for it. but as long as I had the opportunity to participate if i wanted to, it would satisfy me. Why can't they come up with a compromise where resort guests get emh for free (included in their room rate) and off-siters pay a nominal fee?

Stay at the resort, and the fee will be paid.

 

[PirateJ]

well as an off-siter, i'm not saying i would pay for it. but as long as I had the opportunity to participate if i wanted to, it would satisfy me. Why can't they come up with a compromise where resort guests get emh for free (included in their room rate) and off-siters pay a nominal fee?

That is definately a good compromise because it keeps everyone happy....on-siters get their free 'perk' and off-siters get their opportunity to enjoy more time in the parks.

However, if the goal was to keep emh exclusive...as many have suggested...this would pose a problem.

 

[Shaman]

However, if the goal was to keep emh exclusive...as many have suggested...this would pose a problem.

To who?

 

[Rinxman]

It really is kind of fair that only resort guests are allowed in for EMH, but don't feel to down. I was at WDW two weeks ago and EMH is no big deal. The parks are just about as crowded as they are during the day. 40 mins for SM and BTMRR, 50 mins for Space Mtn. It might be a bit better now that they have changed seasons. I really wouldn't mind paying the extra $12 for E-Night again. Much less crowded.

 

[Aurora23]

When you buy a ticket you know the hours the park is going to be open. So if you don't like the hours then don't buy the ticket.

I agree 100%. Hours are posted, I wouldn't expect more/less.

 

[peter11435]

can someone enlighten me on e-ride nights and why they ended it in favor of EMH? i'm not too familiar with it, but i thought you had to pay for it?? (correct me if i'm wrong) At least that gave off-siters the OPPORTUNITY to stay in the parks longer.

Actualy E-ride nights were also only for resort guests even though you had to pay.

 

[speck76]

Thank you for your kind response.

The reason I stay offsite is because
1. I really just can't afford to pay for it
2. I travel with my dog so I need pet friendly accomodations.

Well, it seems like you have a barrier due to both choice (your dog partner) and circumstance (your lack of finances)

If you can not afford to pay the price for the more expensive hotel (on-property) why should you get the benifit of exclusive ride time in the parks?

 

[speck76]

I am not complaining about discrimination in terms of starting litigation because of it. Just in terms of unequal treatment...and I mean unequal treatment of their guests...or are some guests more equal than others??

not all guests are equal.......it is a fact

move on

 

[wannab@dis]

It really is kind of fair that only resort guests are allowed in for EMH, but don't feel to down. I was at WDW two weeks ago and EMH is no big deal. The parks are just about as crowded as they are during the day. 40 mins for SM and BTMRR, 50 mins for Space Mtn. It might be a bit better now that they have changed seasons. I really wouldn't mind paying the extra $12 for E-Night again. Much less crowded.

Someone may know for sure, but I believe they ran EMH and e-rides at the same time for a while. The EMH was 1 hour in the morning at select parks and the e-ride was 3 hours in the evening at select parks. The 3 hour night EMH is a recent addition, probably because they found from research that the single morning hour was not a strong enough enticement for onsite stays. Seems like a good business decision to me to replace the e-ride with evening EMH.

 

[speck76]

I still don't see your point on the unequal treatment...

Resort Guests:

PAY FOR ROOM (per night)
PAY FOR TICKETS
PAY FOR EXTRAS (such as food, gifts, etc)

Off-site Guests:

PAY FOR TICKETS
PAY FOR EXTRAS (such as food, gifts, etc)

This is why Disney gets people stay at their resorts for the money. And if something as simple as giving them a perk is going to get people into the resorts...then it's good for Disney. See, Disney WANTS people to feel left out...so that the next time they come...they stay on site.

On top of that, those staying on-property are more likely to not leave property for meals or souvies......those staying off-property are more than likely to catch meals and buy souvies before they get to the parks, or after they leave.

 

[speck76]

And apparantly it works since they stay close to 90% occupancy. I doubt any hotels in the area come close to that.

some do

 

[AbsolutDiznee]

not all guests are equal.......it is a fact

move on

it figures a red sox fan would say that...

 

[ypcat]

That is definately a good compromise because it keeps everyone happy....on-siters get their free 'perk' and off-siters get their opportunity to enjoy more time in the parks.

People who stay off site do have the opportunity to enjoy more time in the parks on EMH nights. They just can't ride the rides. Happy now?

 

[wannab@dis]

some do

I bet you may know the answer... are the 90% occupancy rates for Disney based on a full year or some season of the year? Same question for offsite hotels.

It's truly a compliment to a hotel that can maintain a 90% occupancy average for an entire year considering off-peak travel is fairly low.

 

[wdwishes2005]

That is definately a good compromise because it keeps everyone happy....on-siters get their free 'perk' and off-siters get their opportunity to enjoy more time in the parks.

People who stay off site do have the opportunity to enjoy more time in the parks on EMH nights. They just can't ride the rides. Happy now?

people dont seem to realize this.

 

[PirateJ]

To who?

I just meant that the suggested compromise wouldn't work if the idea was to keep emh exclusive to resort guests only because then they would not be exclusive if extended to other guests.