News Evermore Orlando Resort - new billion-dollar, 10,000-room resort project is coming right next to Walt Disney World

[tallica]

Regarding Margaritaville, in my opinion it is struggling. The shopping area and waterpark are ghost towns. The internal resort restaurants never opened. There are currently 27 vacation homes for sale, some are reduced, some are resales already, and some have been on the market over a year. Update on further investigation 58 homes have been sold in last year, so might not be that bad.

 

[Magic Feather]

If Disney cared like they used to, they would buy the property and redevelop it as a CM village with an architect that cares about sustainable, walkable communities, like Moshe Safdie or Bjark Ingles, and spin it off once completed, like Celebration.

Much of Central FL’s apartment complexes leave much to be desired, see Flamingo Crossings, and Disney could lead the way.

1000% At a minimum, I hope once the current DCP complexes start getting phased out that Disney will hold onto them and offer them to other CMs.

 

[maxairmike]

Being all CMU doesn’t really tell you anything about the quality of the construction. Plenty of junk is built with it. The issue is also far larger than the construction of an individual building but how they are planned, laid out and relate to one another. Well planned but cheap buildings can easily be better than the highest quality construction in a sea of asphalt.

Of course, but given past experience I think I'd rather be in a "junk" CMU building with a solid floor than the seemingly junk wood framing complexes going up like bunny rabbits here. I'm just talking about the in-building experience, I know the larger planning issues aren't going away. I doubt the apartment I was in before was really "quality" block construction, but at least someone slamming their doors didn't visibly rattle adjacent units (also, thanks original builder for selecting these hinges) and you had to put serious effort into being heard (and felt) by a neighbor.

Getting away from the sea of asphalt around here won't happen until the developers decide it will, or local government actually does something and forces their hand along with necessary transit and infrastructure fixes. I have no expectation for either to happen, and this resort development certainly fits the continuing sub/exurban sprawl pattern.

1000% At a minimum, I hope once the current DCP complexes start getting phased out that Disney will hold onto them and offer them to other CMs.

EDIT: Scratch that, I did not remember correctly, last sale was in 2017.

 

[lazyboy97o]

As someone who thinks Evermore Park would not be too keen about this project’s name, I found this interesting.

Taylor Swift sued over album name by Evermore Park

Evermore Park, the immersive storytelling theme park in Utah, is suing Taylor Swift for trademark infringement following the release of her album, Evermore

blooloop.com

 

[TikibirdLand]

As someone who thinks Evermore Park would not be too keen about this project’s name, I found this interesting.

Taylor Swift sued over album name by Evermore Park

Evermore Park, the immersive storytelling theme park in Utah, is suing Taylor Swift for trademark infringement following the release of her album, Evermore

blooloop.com

Do you think anyone would complain if they called it, "Taylor Swift's Evermore Orlando"?

 

[techgeek]

Getting away from the sea of asphalt around here won't happen until the developers decide it will, or local government actually does something and forces their hand along with necessary transit and infrastructure fixes. I have no expectation for either to happen, and this resort development certainly fits the continuing sub/exurban sprawl pattern.

There’s one thing that’s been ever constant here in Florida since the beginning of time... developers gotta develop!

 

[Lilofan]

There’s one thing that’s been ever constant here in Florida since the beginning of time... developers gotta develop!

One thing that's done because of development of businesses in FL ever since the heydays of the 1970s and 80s- money laundering.

 

[JoeCamel]

One thing that's done because of development of businesses in FL ever since the heydays of the 1970s and 80s- money laundering.

Started in the 1920's

 

[networkpro]

Started in the 1920's

But didnt really start accelerating until 1953 when the Cuban revolution started. Batista was in league with organized crime so when that avenue vanished, the toothpaste was squeezed north.

 

[Lilofan]

But didnt really start accelerating until 1953 when the Cuban revolution started. Batista was in league with organized crime so when that avenue vanished, the toothpaste was squeezed north.

Cash is king, as long as taxes and store rent are paid, hardly anyone blinks an eye.

 

[JoeCamel]

But didnt really start accelerating until 1953 when the Cuban revolution started. Batista was in league with organized crime so when that avenue vanished, the toothpaste was squeezed north.

Where did Capone vacation?

Florida Vacations, Travel & Tourism Guide | VISIT FLORIDA

Official state travel, tourism and vacation website for Florida, featuring maps, beaches, events, deals, photos, hotels, activities, attractions and other planning information.

www.visitflorida.com

 

[networkpro]

Where did Capone vacation?

Florida Vacations, Travel & Tourism Guide | VISIT FLORIDA

Official state travel, tourism and vacation website for Florida, featuring maps, beaches, events, deals, photos, hotels, activities, attractions and other planning information.

www.visitflorida.com

Capone died in 1947, his wife sold the house the year after his death. The Casino industry relocated from Havanna to a small dusty desert town in New Mexico.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Real estate agents like foreign buyers. Some come with cash.

Note that this project is incremental, and they're building it so that if the tourism market remains tanked, they can still sell off the single-household properties as housing and get out with a profit.

Building now is actually a brilliant move considering that when it is finished, hopefully we are back to being normalish. I also think the more beautiful hotels that are near disneyworld the better it will be for we believers in Disney hotel magic. Eventually, Disney will have to start returning benefits to people that stay at the Hotels - well other than being close to the parks.

Umm...yeah...Orlando is not gonna be a “hot ticket” real estate market in a recession.

Says “every recession since 1971”

It’s cute that local-ish types think so though. That record keeps spinning though

 

[wdwmagic]

Luxury Hilton resort - Conrad Orlando at Evermore Resort - breaks ground next to Walt Disney World​

Luxury Hilton resort - Conrad Orlando at Evermore Resort - breaks ground next to Walt Disney World

Conrad Orlando, a luxury Hilton Resort, celebrated the beginning of construction for the 433-room hotel.

www.wdwmagic.com

 

[GimpYancIent]

Luxury Hilton resort - Conrad Orlando at Evermore Resort - breaks ground next to Walt Disney World​

Luxury Hilton resort - Conrad Orlando at Evermore Resort - breaks ground next to Walt Disney World

Conrad Orlando, a luxury Hilton Resort, celebrated the beginning of construction for the 433-room hotel.

www.wdwmagic.com

Meh. A Hilton that happens to be close to Disney property.

 

[Touchdown]

Meh. A Hilton that happens to be close to Disney property.

Hilton already has 2 essentially on Disney property (Hilton Bonnet Creek and Waldorf-Astoria Bonnet Creek.)

 

[homerdance]

Hilton already has 2 essentially on Disney property (Hilton Bonnet Creek and Waldorf-Astoria Bonnet Creek.)

And two in the springs area and 2 in the Flamingo Crossing area.

 

[Touchdown]

And two in the springs area and 2 in the Flamingo Crossing area.

I believe the dig was they weren’t near the parks, bonnet creek is closer to MK, Epcot and DHS then AKL.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

...guess the lawyers couldn’t break the contract, huh?

 

[Skibum1970]

My only complaint is that, from the outside, the Conrad looks like the old Ramada or Holiday Inn's from the 60's and 70's. Still, I'll be curious about staying here. I have not stayed offsite in a long time and this could be an option. I first wanted to try either Hilton Bonnet Creek or the Waldorf, assuming that I don't cave in to preference and reserve onsite.