James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
Why do people say this like newness should exempt something from issues? Early-life hiccups are as common as late-life malfunctions.
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
News EPCOT's Harmonious to be replaced with new nighttime spectacular Luminous
- Thread starter wdwmagic
- Start date
Surfin' Tuna
Well-Known Member
I can't tell you why "people" say that, but I can tell you why I say it. I am intimately familiar with the Disney of years past, and I am well aware of the Disney of today. There are differences.
vikescaper
Well-Known Member
Some call it cheating, others call it…..
osian
Well-Known Member
I hang glider from The Land into China.
Because show used to matter for Disney.
So that excuses it?
The simp is strong with this one.
Maybe the problem is that the current crop of Imagineers are so full of themselves they don’t know their rear ends from a hole in the ground.
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
It doesn't excuse it. Show does matter, and it is embarrassing when something malfunctions on occasion out the gate. But it is not some great mystery as to why something brand new might have some issues, which is why I don't get the befuddlement at something three weeks old experiencing a technical issue. The implication seemed to be that this is indicative of potential ongoing reliability issues, which it is not unless we see it occur multiple times.
Last edited:
Andrew25
Well-Known Member
I hate to give Disney a pass since they could have paused the show, figured out the solution, and then restarted. BUT, technical issues should always be expected, especially for new things. If this happens again I'd be worried, but so far all of the shows I've been able to attend have worked flawlessly.
Starship824
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
And judging by the comment made it seems that they fixed it later in the performance. Also can we acknowledge that these kind of malfunctions probably happened all the time before social media. There just wasn't someone to post about it on social media, all the time.
But you are excusing it. There have been consistent technical issues with this show since it debuted. We'll be entering the 4th week of this show shortly and they still haven't gotten consistent performance out of it for whatever reason. At what point does it indicate a bigger organizational failing. "Just give the guests something, they've already paid their admission, who cares."
Just like the rest of the EPCOT spine redo it wasn't ready or wasn't designed properly so it debuted incomplete or not ready.
If it's this troublesome now, fast forward a year or two and let's see how great it is then.
Andrew25
Well-Known Member
Yup. I think people forget this a lot. Doesn't defend the lack of maintenance the parks have had in recent years, but it's not like these things have happened in the past before the age of everyone having a phone in their hand.
What issues have occurred? Saw the show on 7 different nights before being blocked out with my AP... didn't have any issues on those nights. Lights, pyro, and center barge were all working properly.
Except they weren't.
waltography
Well-Known Member
Disney used to always deliver right out of the gate, no imperfections, and we shouldn't demand anything less. Now excuse me while I pull my shoes out of the wet cement and head to Autopia before the cars all crash into each other.
Original Test Track was a nightmare.
They delayed it for almost 2 years and then had 4 months of soft openings to get it right. But they eventually got it right and went live with a reliable and finished attraction.
Do you think current day management would ever do that? Doubtful, ROTR certainly needed a lot of work to get to a "reliable" state and we see how well that works for it today a couple of years after opening.
Andrew25
Well-Known Member
For one night only? Not concerned at all if that were the case.
There's a difference between "striving for excellence/perfection" and actual perfection. It's the real world, stuff happens, unfortunately.
I think people forget sometimes how Disneyland wasn't ready on opening day sometimes and Walt still opened the place...
They've had issues with pyro, lighting, and water effects. There's a reason why they have kept the barges on stage.
Andrew25
Well-Known Member
Everything new has issues, they're running nightly tests around midnight, but most shows have been working as intended. Same way new rides get updated/reprogrammed overnight to make adjustments.
Disney Analyst
Well-Known Member
Apart from B-Mode pyro due to winds, I am unaware of any actual technical issues, apart from the so far one-off mentioned on the last page.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
This is factually untrue. You just didn’t have the internet.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
That has nothing to do with technical issues.