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News EPCOT's Harmonious to be replaced with new nighttime spectacular Luminous
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osian
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Because EPCOT is about humanity and real life, not cartoon characters [edit: from a pre-existing movie] in a fantasy world [edit: where they have their own story separate from the human story].
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osian
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You're right, but I think describing it as "the adult park" is doing it a disservice. Familes with children can have fun together in EPCOT too, they don't need cartoon characters to be able to gel with each other! I think what is meant generally by "adult park" is that some people are sick of cartoon charcters everywhere, these people are not always adults, and there are adults who do like cartoon characters, so the adult thing isn't really describing it properly. It's just people who can see that theme parks are just that, and the movie and cartoon world is just one theme that they can have ,and it's great when a park does something different and doesn't just follow what others so. There isn't a law that a theme park has to be an advertisement for the movie business of the company. "Edutainment" is also a problematic word. Why not just replace that word with "the type of park that Walt wanted", because after all, he wanted his park to be the place where adults and children can play and learn together, that was always part of it.
OSUPhantom
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yensidtlaw1969
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Who is notably absent.
osian
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Is Figment a cartoon character and does he live in his own fantasy world?
OSUPhantom
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Yes and yes.
osian
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Which cartoon movie did he appear in? And why do you see Journey into Imagination as anything other than the real world?
OSUPhantom
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He’s literally a cartoon character. He doesn’t have to be in a show or movie to be a cartoon.
Also the real world doesn’t have talking cartoon purple dragons…so amazingly I didn’t view Journey into Imagination as the “real world”.
lightningtap347
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He's also been in multiple cartoons! In them, he literally takes people to his imaginary world of Figonia.
Language Arts Through Imagination
Language Arts Through Imagination is a series of educational films produced under the Epcot Educational Media label starring Figment from the Journey into Imagination attraction. The series ran from 1988 to 1989 for a total of 11 short films ranging from 10 to 17 minutes. Animation was...
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I've seen a lot of wrong posts here in my lifetime, but I don't think I've seen such immediate and confidently incorrect ones!
THEMEPARKPIONEER
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A misfire would shoot straight up like a mine this was intentional, ROE had those to and I can’t believe they bought them back.
ToTBellHop
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I really liked the new Epcot theme when we first heard it a bit in 2021 but love that we can now hear it throughout the front of the park and we’ll-integrated into Luminous (better than it was in Harm). It produces a park-wide harmony that I’ve always felt was lacking at Epcot. The new lighting up front coordinates well with this show producing a cohesive nighttime experience.
I also really like the two original songs. The finale song is as catchy for me as “Happily Ever After”.
I’ll just check my email during the Play portion.
I also really like the two original songs. The finale song is as catchy for me as “Happily Ever After”.
I’ll just check my email during the Play portion.
vikescaper
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I don’t know if anybody else has mentioned it but I realized yesterday that Luminous reminds me a bit of IllumiNations 25A. Both have a global greeting at the beginning and play the Epcot theme throughout. They both also have narration throughout the show and of course, both have IP.
Could Luminous' hardware hold a full Luminous plus a Tag? Or would we still need the WW3 Barges?I've watched it a couple times on video today, which is as far from my feelings on HARM. So take that for what it is.
I will say I also just watched a video of the Peace on Earth tag. That done on this new infrastructure could be absolutely incredible. And it could blend very nicely with this show's story as well.
osian
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Dreamfinder and Figment are personifications, or manifestations, of the human imagination. They don't have a universe of their own, they exist only to tell a particular (human, real-world) story to describe how our imagination works to collect thoughts and create things, for a specific attraction, similar to the Carousel of Progress family. They are absolutely firmly rooted in the real world, if you think Journey into Imagination is (was) about a fictional universe and not real life then you've missed the point of EPCOT. And they weren't imported from a pre-existing, unconnected, fictional cartoon. (We might be getting into semantics here - I meant cartoon as in a movie feature presentation, but it also means a form in which a character is realised, e.g. human, puppet, animatronic, drawn - both characters have existed in all forms).
Doctor Who has also had spin-off comic books, but he's not a cartoon character, although he has existed in drawn forms.
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osian
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As I've just said we might be getting into one of these internet semantic arguments. People are well aware of my meaning. I have edited my original comment to make it clearer so that people do not get confused and waste time trying to argue a point that was never asserted.He's also been in multiple cartoons! In them, he literally takes people to his imaginary world of Figonia.
Language Arts Through Imagination
Language Arts Through Imagination is a series of educational films produced under the Epcot Educational Media label starring Figment from the Journey into Imagination attraction. The series ran from 1988 to 1989 for a total of 11 short films ranging from 10 to 17 minutes. Animation was...
I've seen a lot of wrong posts here in my lifetime, but I don't think I've seen such immediate and confidently incorrect ones!
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Indeed it would. Fingers crossed for a tag next year. Seems like an easy way to bring something extra for the holidays.I've watched it a couple times on video today, which is as far from my feelings on HARM. So take that for what it is.
I will say I also just watched a video of the Peace on Earth tag. That done on this new infrastructure could be absolutely incredible. And it could blend very nicely with this show's story as well.
Earlie the Pearlie
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Fun fact: that's aimed at the DreamcatcherMore SYNERGY!
TheEPCOTHistorian
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Yes, they're intentional. It happens multiple times through the show. I was pleasantly surprised to see them return from RoE.
Also, my god that center barge is so brilliant.