News EPCOT's Harmonious to be replaced with new nighttime spectacular Luminous

[jrhwdw]

Attendance in MK at night is higher with HEA than DE.

We will see with Luminous. Epcot was not doing well at night with Harm (and EF doesn’t pull remarkable numbers either). But, Epcot had a blank space, baby, so it wrote down EF’s name.

I can believe HEA has that effect.


Would be nice to see where Steve's expectations are with Luminous. If EF really is not done on Dec 4th, That may not be a good sign.....

 

[ToTBellHop]

I can believe HEA has that effect.


Would be nice to see where Steve's expectations are with Luminous. If EF really is not done on Dec 4th, That may not be a good sign.....

I imagine Luminous will be good enough to stay.

 

[Vinnie Mac]

But, Epcot had a blank space, baby, so it wrote down EF’s name.

Epcot Forever (Taylor's Version)

 

[Starship824]

I imagine Luminous will be good enough to stay.

Even if the content of the show is bad they could change it with the new hardware since it goes in and out of the lagoon.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Attendance in MK at night is higher with HEA than DE.

Is that a source or anecdotal?

 

[trainplane3]

I imagine Luminous will be good enough to stay.

At the very least the infrastructure can be reused if the content isn't good and it should be cheaper to run and maintain. Harmonious was neither of those things.

 

[bmr1591]

Is that a source or anecdotal?

Anecdotal, certainly.

 

[Vinnie Mac]

At the very least the infrastructure can be reused if the content isn't good and it should be cheaper to run and maintain. Harmonious was neither of those things.

Yeah I think Disney hit a homerun with the infrastructure. If they play it smart it'll have as much longevity as Illumination's infrastructure did

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Anecdotal, certainly.

If that’s the case then I can say DE got more crowds than HEA at the Grand Floridian lol.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I’m also not convinced anyone beyond obsessed fans will book a trip for a new fireworks show anyway. Rather, strong fireworks are expected at WDW and they realized repeat bookings would decrease if they didn’t offer compelling nighttime spectaculars. They didn’t exactly market HEA beyond fan groups but they know guest ratings were lower for DE and that would not sustain return trips for 10 years or more. WDW guests have been trained to expect new rides at a healthy clip but not new fireworks shows.

Nighttime spectaculars mostly give guests a reason to stay in a park late and spend money on dinner, dessert, and $30 light-up bubble wands. This is obviously better for Disney than us going to bed at 7 pm out of boredom. I would also imagine, psychologically, an outstanding experience at the end of the day makes us more likely to overlook any daytime issues and say, “today was amazing and we should do this again.”

This is probably making your point. I flew down to see the last Illuminations and first EPCOT Forever. I am extending my upcoming trip to see the first Luminous.

 

[TTA94]

I would like to see them release absolutely nothing and have a nice surprise on opening day for once.

Is there a chance they’ll actually do that and not release anything?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

This is probably making your point. I flew down to see the last Illuminations and first EPCOT Forever. I am extending my upcoming trip to see the first Luminous.

I can see some of that - extending trips, reworking trips to have more EPCOT days, etc .... probably not a lot of extra trips booked for it, but more interest in being there if can adjust existing plans

 

[TTA94]

Would be nice to see where Steve's expectations are with Luminous.

Curious about that to. Is it going to be something many of us will be pleasantly surprised and wowed? Or more something that’s decent but not anything to go crazy over?

 

[trainplane3]

This is probably making your point. I flew down to see the last Illuminations and first EPCOT Forever. I am extending my upcoming trip to see the first Luminous.

I did the same for Illuminations too.
My trip was always planned for the week Luminous debuts so the fact it actually is debuting then was a very welcome surprise. So I'll be there to see the last Epcot Forever and first Luminous as well.

Hopefully we won't laugh at the Luminous preshow announcements like everyone did for Epcot Forever.

 

[MisterPenguin]

We will see with Luminous. Epcot was not doing well at night with Harm (and EF doesn’t pull remarkable numbers either). But, Epcot had a blank space, baby, so it wrote down EF’s name.

WDW needs to create a generic EPCOT fireworks show that isn't dependent on special equipment and isn't EF so that the next time they need filler, they can use that.

EF ain't pulling people in over defunct attraction music from 30 years ago.

Time to retire EF permanently.

Even an abbreviated Illumination without the Earth-sphere and cutting the non-fireworky filler would be ten times better than EF.

 

[Vinnie Mac]

Curious about that to. Is it going to be something many of us will be pleasantly surprised and wowed? Or more something that’s decent but not anything to go crazy over?

He did say earlier in the thread that he believes the show has potential to be special and that it might be the show Epcot deserves

 

[TTA94]

He did say earlier in the thread that he believes the show has potential to be special and that it might be the show Epcot deserves

Let’s hope so

 

[DCBaker]

 

[SaucyBoy]

If that’s the case then I can say DE got more crowds than HEA at the Grand Floridian lol.

Sounds like those people were the type of basic guest with zero taste or any lick of intelligence.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Sounds like those people were the type of basic guest with zero taste or any lick of intelligence.

I understand they went to Narcoossee’s to complain that 1900 Park Fare is still closed so this checks out.