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News EPCOT's Harmonious to be replaced with new nighttime spectacular Luminous
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THEMEPARKPIONEER
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I remember seeing the Fountain of Nations go from white to changing colors for the first time and I just lost my mind. All the ground lighting and landscape lighting along with the landscapes just blew my mind at Epcot. Seeing the buildings light up and the lasers in the water than all the sudden the lights as in the lasers are leaving the buildings and traveling into mid air off into the sky along with the spotlights are you kidding me?!?!?! That to me was just supernatural, I know they still have lasers but when you have segments where there’s lasers traveling in mid air and on the water screen in the dark like that it’s just incredible especially when you don’t know how it all works. And if being a gullible kid isn’t enough your gliding space looking back not even thinking of its real or not but on the back of your mind you’re thinking where am I, what did I just travel thru and what the heck is going on.
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Starship824
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One would think, they waited until two weeks before they announced anything Fantasmic last year so we'll see.
DisneyDreamerxyz
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John Stamos will be narrating Candlelight Processional right before the first Luminous December 5th 
Three barges in the lagoon this evening.
I would like to see them release absolutely nothing and have a nice surprise on opening day for once.
Starship824
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That would be an interesting idea, but how would they market it then. How many people besides die-hard fans know this show is coming out in a few weeks?I would like to see them release absolutely nothing and have a nice surprise on opening day for once.
Then, we would keep wondering how much IP is in this show...I would like to see them release absolutely nothing and have a nice surprise on opening day for once.
I'm little surprised the Resorts haven't been getting Pyro Test Notices yet. Granted We're still little over a Month out.
As much as we love nighttime shows, I'm not sure at this point Luminous is going to drive bookings for this holiday season. Marketing now is looking to 2024.
You won't have long to wait for tests.
TheMaxRebo
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Yeah, other than locals or people that go multiple times a year anyway, I can't imagine that many people would book a vacation now just to see a new nighttime show at Epcot this December vs already deciding to go due to the holidays, etc
Maybe be it motivated people with a trip already scheduled to do more Epcot days or add hoppers so they can hop to Epcot multiple days to see the show or something, but not a new trip
ToTBellHop
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I’m also not convinced anyone beyond obsessed fans will book a trip for a new fireworks show anyway. Rather, strong fireworks are expected at WDW and they realized repeat bookings would decrease if they didn’t offer compelling nighttime spectaculars. They didn’t exactly market HEA beyond fan groups but they know guest ratings were lower for DE and that would not sustain return trips for 10 years or more. WDW guests have been trained to expect new rides at a healthy clip but not new fireworks shows.
Nighttime spectaculars mostly give guests a reason to stay in a park late and spend money on dinner, dessert, and $30 light-up bubble wands. This is obviously better for Disney than us going to bed at 7 pm out of boredom. I would also imagine, psychologically, an outstanding experience at the end of the day makes us more likely to overlook any daytime issues and say, “today was amazing and we should do this again.”
If Luminous has a Stunning opening night, the only Guests able to plan a WDW/Epcot Trip yet in 2023 would be Locals/APs Correct?
I have no proof but it wouldn't shock me if Bookings went up May-Summer 2017 not only because of Pandora at AK but also the brand new HEA at MK.....
HEA & EF 2023 was officially announced in early January on DPB, out there for all the world to see. So it wasn't a secret only for Fan Sites.
ToTBellHop
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Only fans read DPB. They put Cosmic Rewind and TRON commercial in movie theaters. They don’t do that for new fireworks. And I love fireworks. But the type of crowd that knows or cares about a new show is rather niche-y.
Andrew25
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Harmonious, hated by fans, but average guests loved it. As long as there are big booms and msuci they don't really care.
Mind you a good chunk of visitors are WDW/Park/Disney fans, but I sincerely doubt most non-fans can find differences between HEA and Enchantment.
I say this as someone who passionately hated Harmonious and Enchantment lol
trainplane3
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Thing is if average guests loved it, Harmonious would've pulled the attendance numbers and third party restaurants would be decently filled up when compared to previous shows.
It didn't do any of that so it was dumped quickly.
Same with DE although, Main Street was always full for DE. We'll see how well DE does for DAH next year,. Who Knows? Maybe MK found a perfect place for DE..
ToTBellHop
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Attendance in MK at night is higher with HEA than DE.
We will see with Luminous. Epcot was not doing well at night with Harm (and EF doesn’t pull remarkable numbers either). But, Epcot had a blank space, baby, so it wrote down EF’s name.