Epcot suffering

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Main Street USA

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yeti

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If Epcot remained the same immersive history-lesson showcase it once was, chances are people would complain just as much.

Disney never pleases everyone. Never has, never will.
 

SMRT-1

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It was a bit boaring I like the changes but I wish they werent as cheap like the screen they could have that and the sets like they used to. Dreamfinder on the otherhand all kids love dreamfinder. Mishion space is good to but they dont need to tear down horizons. They know when a ride sponcership expires they should of waited untill wonders of life was out make it a life center make a planetarium in the big bubble part and put mishion space in the building and make a star battle ball room and keep horizons. Or make mishion space in the building with horizons that is futureistic travel that would fit. Or even put mishion space in an innoventions building. Thats not what botheres ma and i might have to change the main post I am also disapointed in just the landscape like the gardens there sloppy and not like they used to be there overgrown. Ginding nemo is good but they also scaled down on they took away alot of tanks and that disapoints me. I am just tired of them scaling down is what I should say there getting cheap and lazy.


Mishion Space??? talk about lazy!
 

vintageepcot

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Wow Disney loved your standards a paint job on UOE, that is basic maintence.

Also WOL might have been in bad shape but to look at it's closing as a positive is ridiculos. There is no excuse for that space to be wasted we are spoiled with space in WDW, DL management would not ley that happen. I don't want to here the no sponsor excuse because 90% of the attractions in WDW operate without a sponsor.

Another area I agree with you is The Land this is the sole pavilion that I find nothing wrong with.

Thank got epcot does still have some great ideas still and soarin is my new favorite ride there besides test track and I think its the nicest pavilion there and still has its origional character. that greenhouse must be so old but it looks great still.
 

musketeer

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Man...sometimes I think that if I were to have never been to any Disney park, and if I read these boards, it would want to make me never go because I'd get the impression that the entire resort is just one big steaming pile of crap.

I guess when someone is looking to be negative, they can find something wrong with everything.

I've made 4 visits in the last 5 or so years, and in my opinion, the place gets better each time.

Sure horizons was cool, but I think people are remembering things a bit differently than reality. If you could conduct an experiment, and place both Horizons and Mission Space next to each other, and open them at the same time, so there were no preconceived ideas of them, I'm fairly confident that Mission Space would draw more people consistently. Same thing with World of Motion vs Test Track, and so on.

I agree that the Journey into Imagination really was better than what exists now.

I just think people are so attached to memories of the past, they can't see what is really good about the present.
 

vintageepcot

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Mishion Space??? talk about lazy!

Well mishion space to me is a video and a simulator and they realey didnt need to eliminate a building and ride for that and its not lazy but I when say lazy I mean not as creative and detailed like the old spaceship earth great music and great artwork. The new illuminations is great and I think we need more Don Dorcy written all over epcot. The old stuff used to have that kind of standard to it.
 

vintageepcot

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Man...sometimes I think that if I were to have never been to any Disney park, and if I read these boards, it would want to make me never go because I'd get the impression that the entire resort is just one big steaming pile of crap.

I guess when someone is looking to be negative, they can find something wrong with everything.

I've made 4 visits in the last 5 or so years, and in my opinion, the place gets better each time.

Sure horizons was cool, but I think people are remembering things a bit differently than reality. If you could conduct an experiment, and place both Horizons and Mission Space next to each other, and open them at the same time, so there were no preconceived ideas of them, I'm fairly confident that Mission Space would draw more people consistently. Same thing with World of Motion vs Test Track, and so on.

I agree that the Journey into Imagination really was better than what exists now.

I just think people are so attached to memories of the past, they can't see what is really good about the present.

Look at how many people miss Dreamfinder and Horizone. I done want Mishion Space out I just wish they would take pride in the classics and the art work. i am not saying the new stuff isnt good. I am realey disapointed with what they left out of spaceship earth. Everyone has a diferent opinion sometimes I wish I was thinking more like you than I would be mutch happier.
 

scpergj

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Well mishion (that would be Mission Space) space to me is a video and a simulator and they realey (really...you can't even spell really?) didnt need to eliminate a building and ride for that and its not lazy but I when say lazy I mean not as creative and detailed like the old spaceship earth great music and great artwork. The new illuminations is great and I think we need more Don Dorcy written all over epcot. The old stuff used to have that kind of standard to it. (Punctuation, spelling, and grammar are your friends!!)

Look at how many people miss Dreamfinder and Horizone (Horizions...close, but not quite). I done (I think you mean don't...) want Mishion Space (again, that would be Mission Space) out I just wish they would take pride in the classics and the art work. i am not saying the new stuff isnt good. I am realey disapointed with what they left out of spaceship earth. Everyone has a diferent opinion sometimes I wish I was thinking more like you than I would be mutch happier.

Sorry...nice try.

I have an extremely difficult time understanding what you write - in fact, I have an easier time reading what my 1st grade daughter writes than you. I read what you said about being lazy when not being graded, but realize that when you write like a 10 year old child others will not take you seriously. I for one do not...Actually, it is kind of insulting to the rest of us - we are not important enough to waste your time and effort writing correctly.

I personally believe that part of the problem with our society is handing out a college diploma to someone that does not have a basic command of the English language.
 

Figment632

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Sorry...nice try.

I have an extremely difficult time understanding what you write - in fact, I have an easier time reading what my 1st grade daughter writes than you. I read what you said about being lazy when not being graded, but realize that when you write like a 10 year old child others will not take you seriously. I for one do not...Actually, it is kind of insulting to the rest of us - we are not important enough to waste your time and effort writing correctly.

I personally believe that part of the problem with our society is handing out a college diploma to someone that does not have a basic command of the English language.

Is ending a sentence with three periods an example of this command you speak of?
 

das texan

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I know I dont post here much, but that shouldnt matter I suppose.


I was last at Disney in January, so bear with me here, I dont get the pleasure of going nearly as often as some of you.


I remember vintage EPCOT. It was really cool. But there was a lot of the sameness going on.


Having said that, I have no problems with Epcot as it is today. I mean its not going to be perfect, we have to learn to accept that.

But if I'm in charge, to make Epcot even better I do the following:

1) Do something with WOL Pavilion. That entire area is a bit of a ghost town, something needs to be done to that area to get it popping again.

2) Utilize the Odyssey. It would be a perfect place for a character dining I think, and there is a lack of sit downs in Future World (and will allow for certain character dining experiences in the WS to be eliminated)

3) Either find a way to go back to the original Journey into Imagination or a new version of it utilizing the entire space with Figment and Dreamfinder as the stars of the attraction. Also some new show where Honey I Shrunk the Audience resides now. Go with a vintage Captain EO show while you figure out what you are doing with Imagination and once that gets online then transition to whatever the new show will be.

4) I'm not a fan of the narrator of Spaceship Earth, but maybe someone does like her. I think with a better narrator its an even better attraction.

5) Just modernize Energy. Keep Ellen, get rid of Ellen, doesnt really matter, it would/should be easy enough to modernize it.


Thats what I would do in Future World in my perfect world.

Its good as it is now, but that would make it even better. 1 and 3 being the top priorities for me.
 

the-reason14

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Sorry, but the only thing I will agree with from the OP is over Mission:Space. I agree that they could have waited and put it where WOL now sits vacant and kept Horizons. Horizons was a great ride that I was, thankfully, blessed to ride during its last few years, but they could have put M:S where WOL is because literally a year or 2 later, WOL just sat there empty.

Everything else I cant really agree with. I enjoy Epcot the way it is now. Its not my fav. park, but I like it. The whole thing saying that its like another 6 flags park, kinda killed it off for me. If you honestly think that Epcot is like six flags, than I just dont know what to say to that.
 

DarthGrady

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I'll be the first one to wipe a tear and light a candle for the EPCOT of old. What happened there between 1982 and the early 1990s was tremendous. It was better than anything else that Disney had ever done or will ever do! We will likely never see anything of that magnitude again. It was the high water mark for Disney, and really for theme parks in general. (My opinion, and I'm sticking to it!)

Those days are gone now. The newness wore off and less people were coming to visit. So the place got "Eisner-ed" up to get butts back in the park. Test Track, Mission Space, Soarin and (sigh) Nemo are drawing folks in. As much as I hate to say it, those things kinda saved the park.

We all mourn Communicore, WOM, Horizons, TLS (with or without mamoties), JII and WOL. But it seems they are lost forever. Most people just go to the park now and say, "hey, look! something new and shiny!" Having no clue about the wonderful rides and attractions that once were. Sure its sad, sure we all miss EPCOT Center and curse the new lower case version. But times change, and so must we all. Don't think for one second that I'm not going to be wistful for the good ol' days though.

Ill leave you all with a good quote from a brilliant man that seems fitting for a thread like this. Its from Hunter S. Thompson's Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Just substitute "Future World East" for "a steep hill in Las Vegas" and "fifteen years" for "five years", you'll get the point:

"We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark -- the place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."
 

EPCOT Explorer

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I'll be the first one to wipe a tear and light a candle for the EPCOT of old. What happened there between 1982 and the early 1990s was tremendous. It was better than anything else that Disney had ever done or will ever do! We will likely never see anything of that magnitude again. It was the high water mark for Disney, and really for theme parks in general. (My opinion, and I'm sticking to it!)

Those days are gone now. The newness wore off and less people were coming to visit. So the place got "Eisner-ed" up to get butts back in the park. Test Track, Mission Space, Soarin and (sigh) Nemo are drawing folks in. As much as I hate to say it, those things kinda saved the park.

We all mourn Communicore, WOM, Horizons, TLS (with or without mamoties), JII and WOL. But it seems they are lost forever. Most people just go to the park now and say, "hey, look! something new and shiny!" Having no clue about the wonderful rides and attractions that once were. Sure its sad, sure we all miss EPCOT Center and curse the new lower case version. But times change, and so must we all. Don't think for one second that I'm not going to be wistful for the good ol' days though.

Ill leave you all with a good quote from a brilliant man that seems fitting for a thread like this. Its from Hunter S. Thompson's Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Just substitute "Future World East" for "a steep hill in Las Vegas" and "fifteen years" for "five years", you'll get the point:

"We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark -- the place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."
FANTASTICALLY SAID!:sohappy::D
 

SMRT-1

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Well mishion space to me is a video and a simulator and they realey didnt need to eliminate a building and ride for that and its not lazy but I when say lazy I mean not as creative and detailed like the old spaceship earth great music and great artwork. The new illuminations is great and I think we need more Don Dorcy written all over epcot. The old stuff used to have that kind of standard to it.


I was talking about your spelling.
 
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