Epcot Rumor Thread

[jt04]

Really?

I think I'd like some empirical data: date, time of day, and line wait time, please. Especially thru the 90s up until the Horizons was closed.

Thanks

I'm speaking from personal experience. My last 2 or 3 visits to Epcot, Horizons was a walk on. The last time I passed through the entire queue without anyone in front of me which was kinda cool. Truly a walk on. The CM's looked at us like, "oh man, guests!"

I've never walked on M:S. And I go on that ride everytime.

Sorry I can't give you exact dates/time of day. I don't keep a diary. :lookaroun:lol:

 

[One Lil Spark]

I'm speaking from personal experience. My last 2 or 3 visits to Epcot, Horizons was a walk on. The last time I passed through the entire queue without anyone in front of me which was kinda cool. Truly a walk on. The CM's looked at us like, "oh man, guests!"

I've never walked on M:S. And I go on that ride everytime.

Sorry I can't give you exact dates/time of day. I don't keep a diary. :lookaroun:lol:

I believe Monorail Orange was calling out your buddy The Conundrum... :wave:

 

[jt04]

I believe Monorail Orange was calling out your buddy The Conundrum... :wave:

Sorry, the quotes thingy is all screwed up. Someone needs some WDWMagic tutorials.

Thanks! :wave:

 

[yeti]

http://wdwcelebrations.com/event-archive/celebration-25.html :wave:

Are you Adam Roth? :lol:

 

[Monorail_Orange]

Yes, I was indeed, calling for Conundrum to back up his statement, sorry 'bout that, jt.

Actually, my memories are walking on horizons virtually all the time from about 95-on. M:S I've seen as long as an hour, and as short as 5 mins.

 

[One Lil Spark]

Sorry, the quotes thingy is all screwed up. Someone needs some WDWMagic tutorials.

Thanks! :wave:

You are very welcome!

 

[jt04]

Yes, I was indeed, calling for Conundrum to back up his statement, sorry 'bout that, jt.

Actually, my memories are walking on horizons virtually all the time from about 95-on. M:S I've seen as long as an hour, and as short as 5 mins.

No problem. Thanks for verifying what I remember. The best part of Horizons is now at The Land pavilion. Once again an Imagineering winner. It just needs a new film.

 

[One Lil Spark]

No problem. Thanks for verifying what I remember. The best part of Horizons is now at The Land pavilion. Once again an Imagineering winner. It just needs a new film.

L'Orange was but merely one of the best parts of Horizons, JT! Thank goodness for mousebits and youtube...

 

[beyondyou]

wow one statement and 3pages get added in 4hrs!lol

i dont totally hate M:S for the record. i just LOVED Horizons so much more than it. It truly was a masterpiece(this is my opinion of course)

and for the wait time discussion. during my 5month CP from Jaunary 09-May 09 the only times i EVER saw MS with more than a hour wait was during valentines week and spring break(so one more week basically) every other time we would go to Epcot center(almost every other day during the 5months:king the wait time was never over 20minutes.
I had several friends who worked on MS and they had stories of being so bored working there. They said there were hardly any people riding it.

i know these are not "solid" numbers, just what i've experinced and heard of.

 

[jt04]

L'Orange was but merely one of the best parts of Horizons, JT! Thank goodness for mousebits and youtube...

Oh. I was talking about the projection screens that surround you. That was a concept worth keeping. And the orange smell too.

 

[One Lil Spark]

Oh. I was talking about the projection screens that surround you. That was a concept worth keeping. And the orange smell too.

D'oh! :hammer:

That makes total sense! I guess Soarin' has 2 great Horizons attributes. Again, thank goodness for youtube/mousebits.

 

[RSoxNo1]

No problem. Thanks for verifying what I remember. The best part of Horizons is now at The Land pavilion. Once again an Imagineering winner. It just needs a new film.

I was a huge fan of Horizons, I enjoyed the choice at the end of the ride, and I obviously enjoyed the orange sent. I liked the banter between the male and female hosts, and as I kid I liked being able to quote the entire script.

Part of me gets annoyed by the fanboy mentality that fears change, but in this case I enjoyed Horizons far more than Mission: Space. With that said, sinkhole aside, I recognize the need for change. I'm not sure if our expectations of Disney have been put to insurmountable levels but so often fanboys have been underwhelmed by the next latest and greatest that Disney has to offer.

I think part of the problem is the rampant web community that knows about all the surprises before attractions are open to the public. This also lends itself to false rumors building up expectations on false pretenses. I think this is in part why Disney seems to be keeping a tighter wrap on things. I think if we look at a ride like Everest - we knew that the ride was going to go backwards back in 2003. Had that been a surprise when it first opened it might have generated even more buzz around the attraction.

With Mission: Space, there was early buzz because of the monetary investment, and then the unfortunate deaths. I think the problem is that although the centrifuge was innovative, the video/story of the ride itself wasn't particularly compelling.

 

[Mr.EPCOT]

It's funny, the longer Horizons stayed open the shorter the wait times became. The longer M:S stays open the longer the wait times become.

I really don't think wait times are the be-all and end-all of an attraction's appropriateness, success, and potential. If it were, The Haunted Mansion and several others would have been deemed a failure and closed several years ago. Horizons had an unfortunate combination of factors that led to its closure, but that doesn't mean it wasn't an amazing attraction.

C25? Where and when?

They played classic EPCOT music in the Main Entrance Plaza and CommuniCore/Innoventions Plaza all day, and throughout the entire park after IllumiNations.

I'm speaking from personal experience. My last 2 or 3 visits to Epcot, Horizons was a walk on. The last time I passed through the entire queue without anyone in front of me which was kinda cool. Truly a walk on. The CM's looked at us like, "oh man, guests!" I've never walked on M:S.

I walk on it all the time, I don't generally ride it if it's more than a ten minute wait. And it sure seems like I go on it quite a bit.

 

[krankenstein]

I was a huge fan of Horizons, I enjoyed the choice at the end of the ride, and I obviously enjoyed the orange sent. I liked the banter between the male and female hosts, and as I kid I liked being able to quote the entire script.

Part of me gets annoyed by the fanboy mentality that fears change, but in this case I enjoyed Horizons far more than Mission: Space. With that said, sinkhole aside, I recognize the need for change. I'm not sure if our expectations of Disney have been put to insurmountable levels but so often fanboys have been underwhelmed by the next latest and greatest that Disney has to offer.

I think part of the problem is the rampant web community that knows about all the surprises before attractions are open to the public. This also lends itself to false rumors building up expectations on false pretenses. I think this is in part why Disney seems to be keeping a tighter wrap on things. I think if we look at a ride like Everest - we knew that the ride was going to go backwards back in 2003. Had that been a surprise when it first opened it might have generated even more buzz around the attraction.

With Mission: Space, there was early buzz because of the monetary investment, and then the unfortunate deaths. I think the problem is that although the centrifuge was innovative, the video/story of the ride itself wasn't particularly compelling.

A sinkhole never existed by Horizons.

 

[marni1971]

I lived for Horizons. I like M:S. Just don`t compare the two. One was a people crunching Omnimover. One has 2 rides per side, and without protien spill 101s it has wait times of a theatre show by its very nature. Length of wait as a compasisson is irrelevant. Fact is Horizons was old in 1999. Almost embarrassingly so. They had to run it for park capacity - thank Eisner for vetoing the multi million dollar update in late 1993 (update, not gutting for a Space pavilion) - imagine Horizons like SSE is today, but with better triangles. That is what we could have got.

Just don`t mention sinkholes.

 

[Studios Fan]

I loved Horizons, but it was old by that time.

 

[Jasonflz]

I lived for Horizons. I like M:S. Just don`t compare the two. One was a people crunching Omnimover. One has 2 rides per side, and without protien spill 101s it has wait times of a theatre show by its very nature. Length of wait as a compasisson is irrelevant. Fact is Horizons was old in 1999. Almost embarrissingly so. They had to run it for park capacity - thank Eisner for vetoing the multi million dollar update in late 1993 (update, not gutting for a Space pavilion) - imagine Horizons like SSE is today, but with better triangles. That is what we could have got.

Just don`t mention sinkholes.

Eisner is awful. I swear that man started the bubonic plague.

 

[Jasonflz]

Its funny how much you were defending Horizons considering you've never ridden it.

Do I look like I am defending Horizons? No, I am not. Read a little more carefully, thank you. I never said one good thing about Horizons.

 

[aladdin2007]

If they end up adding any type of triangles or triangle like shapes into Imagination whenever it does get a refurb, im going to .
What is it with Epcot and triangles? Cause its a cheap shape to construct? The futureworld canopy, the leave a legacy sort of has a edgy pointed shape, triangles in sse, seems like somewhere else too but I cant remember. The dumb things give me bad dreams lol.

ps: horizons was incredible, Walt would have loved it I think. hmm were there triangles in there too somewhere? I dont think so but will never forget Horizons, that was Imagineering at its best, world of motion too.

 

[Jasonflz]

If they end up adding any type of triangles or triangle like shapes into Imagination whenever it does get a refurb, im going to .
What is it with Epcot and triangles? Cause its a cheap shape to construct? The futureworld canopy, the leave a legacy sort of has a edgy pointed shape, triangles in sse, seems like somewhere else too but I cant remember. The dumb things give me bad dreams lol.

Universe of energy has a triangular shape with an apex.