WahahahaaThis one is not Photoshoped, I swear!
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EPCOT Resorts Cancelled Monorail Loop
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Pumbaa1222
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If I could rely on comfortable transportation all across the resort that did NOT involve a crowded, stinky, BUS. I would totally pay more than $10 a week for this!
Here's the latest construction photos of the Miami Intermodal Center to give you an idea for what I have in mind near DHS...
http://micdot.com/Project_Photos/2013/January.pdf
http://micdot.com/Project_Photos/2013/January.pdf
Texas84
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Now THATS a wonderfully bad photoshopped image
Of something that only exists on paper.
Oh come on. It only took me 10 minutes.
Timon
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PeterAlt - Thanks.
Yes that footer is real and is the only one visible. I was there when they were built and the last time I saw the one near Imagineering was in 2005. The Epcot line footers are large poured blocks of concrete on average about 10 foot by 20 foot and 5 foot thick and bigger, at least 6 pilings extend to bed rock. For standard columns there are two 24" holes extending through the concrete block.
The Beams and Columns were made in an open air work yard in the Admin area.
The Columns had rebar extending out the bottoms which were set into the two holes and filled with concrete, which is why there is no rebar extending above ground. This one was the last of a dozen or so leading to the two switch tracks planned to join the existing beam. Having the foundation was to speed construction with the least amount of disruption to the park. Either way cutting an existing track, building two modern high speed switches and platforms is going to take 6 months of more.
Here is a better shot showing the thin dead grass above the footer. Usually a hunk of plywood covers the two rebar holes but is often cockeyed because of the mowers bumping it.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOUPeterAlt - Thanks.
Yes that footer is real and is the only one visible. I was there when they were built and the last time I saw the one near Imagineering was in 2005. The Epcot line footers are large poured blocks of concrete on average about 10 foot by 20 foot and 5 foot thick and bigger, at least 6 pilings extend to bed rock. For standard columns there are two 24" holes extending through the concrete block.
The Beams and Columns were made in an open air work yard in the Admin area.
The Columns had rebar extending out the bottoms which were set into the two holes and filled with concrete, which is why there is no rebar extending above ground. This one was the last of a dozen or so leading to the two switch tracks planned to join the existing beam. Having the foundation was to speed construction with the least amount of disruption to the park. Either way cutting an existing track, building two modern high speed switches and platforms is going to take 6 months of more.
Here is a better shot showing the thin dead grass above the footer. Usually a hunk of plywood covers the two rebar holes but is often cockeyed because of the mowers bumping it.
I wish you came here sooner. As you see, I've gotten nothing but grief from the people here.
Timon
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I think people have a right to be skeptical when these kinds of details are not published in a book and proving it is very tough. So have patience and try not to make predictions. Guessing what Disney is going to do is like herding cats, it will drive you nuts. Best approach is saying what you would do or like to see to avoid getting beat up.
That said, the monorails are best for moving huge groups of people from where they gather to where they want to go. Like the MK Parking lot to Magic Kingdom, the hotels on the way are just premium hotels and if the Monorail were not already passing through they could never justify the cost of a monorail. For lower volume mass transit you need a PRT or horizontal elevator you call up and then punch in a destination. PRT's could collect from various hotels to make large groups of people at a Monorail Station to head to a park. For example: A Hotel Plaza PRT would gather people from each hotel and go to the monorail station at DTD. Having PRT's to go everywhere would be a huge traffic snafu and just recreate the personal car problems of today. The best transportation at Disney are those locations with several alternatives - Monorail, Boat, Bus, Tram, Taxi & Car. This way if one mode is experiencing a problem you can still get there via another mode.
Keep your hard hat on.
That said, the monorails are best for moving huge groups of people from where they gather to where they want to go. Like the MK Parking lot to Magic Kingdom, the hotels on the way are just premium hotels and if the Monorail were not already passing through they could never justify the cost of a monorail. For lower volume mass transit you need a PRT or horizontal elevator you call up and then punch in a destination. PRT's could collect from various hotels to make large groups of people at a Monorail Station to head to a park. For example: A Hotel Plaza PRT would gather people from each hotel and go to the monorail station at DTD. Having PRT's to go everywhere would be a huge traffic snafu and just recreate the personal car problems of today. The best transportation at Disney are those locations with several alternatives - Monorail, Boat, Bus, Tram, Taxi & Car. This way if one mode is experiencing a problem you can still get there via another mode.
Keep your hard hat on.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
This one is not Photoshoped, I swear!
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No, it certainly wasn't Photoshopped. It was MS Painted!
Thanks again. I'll take your advise. The prediction thing is my ego talking. I'll silence it. Lol.
I'm summoning you back here!Now THATS a wonderfully bad photoshopped image
Of something that only exists on paper.
I summons you back to the monorail thread!
I summons you back to the monorail thread!
Tom
Beta Return
I haz a sad since I wasn't summoned by the message board necromancer. However, I will shed some important light on the issues brought up in this thread despite not being called upon. Here's the deal. Let us break monorail down into its component parts. Mono is short for mononucleosis...which as many know is a sickness. Ra is a sun god. Il is short for illumination. Thus, Ra is illuminating the sickness that is inherently part of this type of transportation. Personally, I'm all about putting a dome over Disney world, coating the ground with a thin veneer of water, freezing it by keeping the interior dome temperature at 20F, and distributing ice skates and gasoline powered sleds to all the guests. Cheap, easy, and efficient.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
Dude, it's simple. You proved too easy to troll. Stop the emotional posts, and just defend your points.
Your ideas are neat, your concepts are fun. Just roll with that and when responding to skeptics don't take an authoritarian tone. As was said earlier "Keep your hard had on".
Because the alleged footer is only a small part of your "plan" which you have yet (unless I missed it) to post details, figures, specifics of. The plan you indicated makes expanding the monorail a no brainer for Disney to accept.
I'll do my best. Thanks for the friendly advise.
That's what you and other kept making a stink about. So, even though it wasn't necessary, I delivered.
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