EPCOT Epcot Forever to debut as interim show before full Reflections of Earth replacement

James Alucobond

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You assume it’ll be better.
People's opinions on IP and EPCOT-appropriate content notwithstanding, it ... almost has to be, right? The current show is basically just pyro, and the only thing especially charming about it is the soundtrack if you're old enough to remember the attractions it's referencing. Even if Harmonious is ultimately a "bad" show for those of us who remain that actually care about the content relative to where the show takes place, I see almost no world in which it is viewed more negatively than EF by the general public.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
People's opinions on IP and EPCOT-appropriate content notwithstanding, it ... almost has to be, right? The current show is basically just pyro, and the only thing especially charming about it is the soundtrack if you're old enough to remember the attractions it's referencing. Even if Harmonious is ultimately a "bad" show for those of us who remain that actually care about the content relative to where the show takes place, I see almost no world in which it is viewed more negatively than EF by the general public.
I can’t comment. Though my comment wasn’t regarding IP. Time will tell once the next show is running.

Regarding the soundtrack, no one knew the RoE score either. And that went down quite well.
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
Regarding the soundtrack, no one knew the RoE score either. And that went down quite well.
Right, but it at least had some degree of unique "wow" factor with the globe. EF was one of the first shows I've ever been to at Disney World where those who were with me said, "Eh, not really worth it. We won't be going next time if it's still the same show."
 

Jwhee

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I saw this 2.0 version last night, my third viewing since being there opening night, and I can't say this is one is any better. It's still the same stale, uninspired, and embarrassing show as before. Everyone in my party hated it (I knew they would, but I just had to prove to them how awful it was :hilarious:) Bring on Harmonious and put this show out of its misery!!

Sheesh. Tough crowd. Even if you don’t know any of the Epcot inspired soundtrack; it is still an impressive presentation of pyrotechnics.
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
It had many redeeming factors. Forever was designed as a stop gap show. Not a showstopper. And it’s fulfilled that role.
Absolutely. I agree on all counts. Just saying it's difficult to fathom Harmonious being less impressive or rewatchable. If it is, it will have failed spectacularly, which I guess might actually be nice in a forward-thinking sort of way since it might force them to deprecate some of the hardware earlier than they might have otherwise?
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
All the latest flashy 'new show tech' does not guarantee a 'great show'.
Nor a great Attraction in many cases.

Sometimes, 'less is more'.

Harmonious will not be 'less'....but 'too much' from a certain point of view in some respects.
Your mileage may vary, as everyone has different opinions on various things.
But i will say this :

It has already proven to be 'too much' to deal with during the daytime for some of us....
NO nightime production should screw up the Guest views of a purposely built area desinged for scenic views 23 hours, 40 mins every single day.

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TTA94

Well-Known Member
Eh, they're not that impressive tbh. Ive seen better from my local town's fourth of July show. Heck, Ignite at SeaWorld is more impressive than this mess.

Yeah asside from the screens, Sea Worlds Ignite and Universals Cinematic Celebration will still beat Harmonious. If World of Color had pyro it would still beat all of them.
 

trainplane3

Well-Known Member
Harmonious honestly just looks like an attempt at Happily Ever After but just at EPCOT. At least in terms of the idea.
When all effort goes out the window, stick a Pixar DVD in to make your average park guest happy.

Yeah asside from the screens, Sea Worlds Ignite and Universals Cinematic Celebration will still beat Harmonious. If World of Color had pyro it would still beat all of them.
I still can't believe how good Ignite is. I'm glad Martin did a video on it in 2019. Planned to see it in 2020 and...welll...ya. While 2021 plans are locked in, I'll for sure see it in 2022.
 

TTA94

Well-Known Member
When all effort goes out the window, stick a Pixar DVD in to make your average park guest happy.


I still can't believe how good Ignite is. I'm glad Martin did a video on it in 2019. Planned to see it in 2020 and...welll...ya. While 2021 plans are locked in, I'll for sure see it in 2022.

Sea Worlds Ignite could be even better if they decide to update the fountains to moving fountains and water screens.
 

Disone

Well-Known Member
You assume it’ll be better.
And it better be. I think I am not alone in thinking the same thing.
It had many redeeming factors. Forever was designed as a stop gap show. Not a showstopper. And it’s fulfilled that role.
Agree. But also why I assumed Harmonious, which truly with the amount of infrastructure they have built must be intended did to be a showstopper and not a stopgap.
Eh, they're not that impressive tbh. Ive seen better from my local town's fourth of July show. Heck, Ignite at SeaWorld is more impressive than this mess.
Disagree. Ignite is definitely the better show of the two. No question there. But Epcot forever definitely out powers Ignite in both terms of Firepower and variety of fireworks.
Harmonious honestly just looks like an attempt at Happily Ever After but just at EPCOT. At least in terms of the idea.
Agree. I have very Happily Ever After 2.0 expectations of Harmonious.
When all effort goes out the window, stick a Pixar DVD in to make your average park guest happy.


I still can't believe how good Ignite is. I'm glad Martin did a video on it in 2019. Planned to see it in 2020 and...welll...ya. While 2021 plans are locked in, I'll for sure see it in 2022.
SeaWorld Orlando's Ignite is truly a happy accident. 9 minutes of keeping you guessing as to whats next. Truly an outstanding show and it's complimentary dance party is definitely the best theme park dance party any of the theme parks have ever offered.

In Tomorrowland and in Dinoland Disney is well-known for its cringe-worthy dance parties. Sea world's electric ocean dance parties are actually fun and not cringe-worthy.

They're also use effectively as a build-up to the Ignite nighttime spectacular and a wind down from that same show.
 
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