Biff215
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But get charged what? I’m sure BoG will collect that $55 and let anyone order off the kids menu!
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Enhanced Dining Experience Coming to Be Our Guest Restaurant
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Gitson Shiggles
There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
Yeah, the $55 charge will still apply. For chicken nuggets.
steve2wdw
WDW Fan Since 1973
I've only been able to get into BoG twice for dinner. Once was with my own reservation, and once with someone else. On both those occasions, I found myself really irked at the number of parties I saw ordering next to nothing. My first visit, the table next to me (a table of six), ordered just two entrees and four appetizers and split everything. By the look on the servers face, I could tell the she was quite annoyed. Wondering how prevalent the practice was, I kept my eyes open as I walked into the west wing to check the room out. I noticed many other tables that had more guests than food. Obviously, this practice must be hurting the bottom line.....I wondered at the time if they'd enforce some type of minimum charge and I guess they have. Maybe it won't be so tough to get in now.
SteamboatJoe
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It's a shame people abusing the system have to ruin things for others. However, that isn't to say Disney isn't trying to cash in on BoG's popularity because they obviously are.
That said, as someone without kids at the moment, and that cannot easily afford the more exclusive, deluxe resorts and restaurants, it's sometimes nice going to the places on property that I know aren't going to be quite as family friendly in terms of offerings.
That said, as someone without kids at the moment, and that cannot easily afford the more exclusive, deluxe resorts and restaurants, it's sometimes nice going to the places on property that I know aren't going to be quite as family friendly in terms of offerings.
MaximumEd
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Hope the menu change means better food. Wasn’t impressed with the strip steak, however, the meat and cheese app was good. That being said, there’s no way I would burn 2 credits or pay $55 for my 10 year old to eat in a themed but super loud giant cafeteria hall. Pass.
SpectroMagician
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I agree the strip steak was bad. If the filet is good then $55 for the 3 courses isn't a bad deal.
sxeensweet
Love a little Disney every day!! ;)
I hope they leave my favorite shrimp and scallop pasta dish on the final menu and also their lobster bisque. 
Biff215
Well-Known Member
But how is this any different than any other restaurant with an a la carte menu? Sure BoG is an attraction in itself for some, and dining there is the only way to get in. I'm not aware of any Disney restaurant that requires a certain number of entrees be purchased. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but suggesting this change is necessary due to this is just crazy. I just don't believe there are that many guests doing this, even though it's not actually against any rules.
IMO, this is just Disney looking to push profits to another level at their most popular restaurant. Not much different than charging $20+ for a very basic breakfast. They know what they have there, we'll just see how much guests will take. I know I had my last dinner there and I'm sure I'm not alone.
steve2wdw
WDW Fan Since 1973
Oh....I agree with you, but as a former restaurant owner/operator, they were acutely aware of what I saw on just two visits and I'm sure they're just making sure they're not leaving ANY money on the table. The fact that it's a restaurant with a high demand, it would make sense for Disney to grab as much cash as they could (because that's how they operate now-whether we agree with that philosophy or not). If the place is fully booked each evening, they now know what they're minimum take is going to be, PLUS beer and wine on top of that. I would have loved that as an owner. I'm surprised it took them this long to institute this change-and I don't think it's going to ever go back. As a customer, I don't really love it. Will I visit again? Probably not....but if I wanted to, it might be a tad easier to snag a reservation.
matt9112
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that's how they max revenue from every butt in every seat. BOG wa locked down solid months in advance since it opened. this is Disney's way of squeezing more from that. it's a logical step. might decrease demand a bit from the dining plan guests but demand is so high it will still be locked up and now more profit yay.
matt9112
Well-Known Member
no just Disney world.
matt9112
Well-Known Member
it's Disney world empty your pocketbook. name of the game.
Biff215
Well-Known Member
I understand, and you're right, we can't fault Disney for trying to maximize profit. Personally I'm just over their fixed price meals. We used to do a lot of them each trip, and considered the price reasonable for the quality and value we received. The prices have risen so astronomically these past few years that it's no longer worth it IMO. Where does it stop? If it's all about maximizing profits, why not go for $100/person? Surely there are enough guests who will pay Disney anything they ask, right?
For me this is similar to what happened at Le Cellier years ago. Demand back then was like BoG now so Disney made it a signature, two DDP credits, and raised cash prices significantly. I haven't been back since, and I loved the place. Today you can get reservations there much more easily, so I wonder how well it actually worked out for them. I'm sorry, but making reservations easier to get should not be seen as a win in these situations.
Perhaps this is more about the DDP effect. Make guests use two credits or push them away and bring in more cash guests at the higher price. Sounds smart to managers, but again we'll see what the long term effect is.
Gitson Shiggles
There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
This happens already at CRT, and people still pay to say they ate dinner in Cinderella’s castle after all these years.
Biff215
Well-Known Member
Fair enough, but why couldn’t delicious food have been added without going fixed price? It’s also important to note Disney isn’t calling this a signature but instead “enhanced”.As someone who thinks the new food items (especially the escargot) sound delicious, I'm delighted to hear so many of you will not be tying up reservations during my next trip.
danyoung56
Well-Known Member
Because they want people to eat (and pay for) a full meal. It's obviously been a problem with people tying up a table just to have some grey stuff and a coke. This is a way to ensure that the per-table income is more reasonable (and profitable) for Disney. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Gitson Shiggles
There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
The food quality will be a move sideways, not up, like any routine menu item change at WDW. Disney is cleverly handling this by calling a restructuring of a meal “enhanced”. The are more than a few people assuming the increase in dining credits means BOG will become a signature restaurant. Thus far, Disney isn’t trying to correct them.
Possibly, but there is an obvious problem at this restaurant with guests taking up a table for an hour and ordering next to nothing just so they can see the place and get their picture with the beast.
As I see it there options were set a minimum order which would be a customer service nightmare, go buffet or go price fix. IMHO price fix is the best option as it seems to work quite well at CRT.
Those that want to order light and see the place will still have the option of doing that at lunch.