News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

doctornick

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Of course. Tropical Americas is certainly a net gain even without a new-build e-ticket.

But that’s a low bar. It would still be disappointing without a new-build e-ticket.

I get the "addition by subtraction" aspect with removing Dinorama and agree - but I do lament losing the Boneyard as well as the general loss of dinosaurs in that park.
 

Marc Davis Fan

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Easily? I mean, it's for sure up there... but you need to at least have parks like Phantasialand and Efteling in the conversation... Busch Gardens Williamsburg as well if natural beauty is your thing...

Disneyland Paris is the most beautiful theme park I've ever been to, by far (I find it to beat DisneySea by a wide margin in the "beauty" category, even though DisneySea is more "grand").
 

WorldExplorer

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Any idea when we could expect work to actually start and when Dino Land will close? I'm thinking late September early October. They still have to build the Imagineering trailers.

They're still training people in T-Spin, Restaurant O'saurus, and Chester and Hester's, for what it's worth.

My wishlist is:
- Rama lasts until the days get shorter so I can have some night time in there. Or they would just keep their darned theme park opened past six o'clock but that's not going to happen.
- Boneyard lasts until February.
- Whatever chunk that lasts into the holiday season lets us keep the wacky music loop.

All in all, though, I hope they give us a definitive date before it happens and don't just suddenly shut it. I want to know my last day.
 

Haymarket2008

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Thank you. Personally I’d prefer to keep a refurbished Dinosaur as well as what else is proposed. IP infusion is a given with Iger but at least there will be a modest overall increase in park capacity. The theme suggests a mysterious but romantic jungle environment and DAK is jungle so that ticks a spreadsheet box too.

As things stand I think the new build will be well received apart from having paid fastpass (Which in itself is a huge incentive to build it)

Great to hear. The use of “mystery” and depth in current domestic theme park design has been….wanting. Something Harambe and Anandapur excel at. It seems like it will be a worthy sibling to the other DAK lands.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Of course. Tropical Americas is certainly a net gain even without a new-build e-ticket.
I don’t disagree - the model and details that we have seen look like this new land will go really well with the rest of the park. I’m not sure if Joe was consulted on this or not, but it feels like he was. Compared to all of the other expansions (tron, Epcot, cars at mk) this looks like a completely natural fit.

My only side note is - there was a time that Dino-Rama wasn’t too bad - the carnival games and rides set the scene but the entire land when it was properly staffed with jugglers, lucky the Dino, etc. worked pretty well.

If we could have gotten an all ages dinosaur fun house style dark ride to replace primeval whirl and some better carnival games that felt more on brand - the land had some lovely potential as being very fun and quirky.
 

Quietmouse

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I don’t disagree - the model and details that we have seen look like this new land will go really well with the rest of the park. I’m not sure if Joe was consulted on this or not, but it feels like he was. Compared to all of the other expansions (tron, Epcot, cars at mk) this looks like a completely natural fit.

My only side note is - there was a time that Dino-Rama wasn’t too bad - the carnival games and rides set the scene but the entire land when it was properly staffed with jugglers, lucky the Dino, etc. worked pretty well.

If we could have gotten an all ages dinosaur fun house style dark ride to replace primeval whirl and some better carnival games that felt more on brand - the land had some lovely potential as being very fun and quirky.

I think if they got rid of the cracked parking lot and made it artificial turf with more trees and maybe live music from a band it would have been more approachable.

The church style carnival on a parking lot just wasn’t a good look.

I was thinking if they had a second dark ride attraction during that time that played into the characters or Chester and Hester and the whole backstory of why there is a giant carnival portrayed thru a dark ride then maybe the theming would have been better understood.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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I was thinking if they had a second dark ride attraction during that time that played into the characters or Chester and Hester and the whole backstory of why there is a giant carnival
Or citizens of Hollywood style Chester and Hester Characters. They did that a little bit with Lucky the Dino - and later with a modified version of Flights of Wonder cast members.
 

WorldExplorer

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Cornivores (popcorn stand in the middle of Rama) was closed today. Marni might have been literal; might have stopped operating yesterday.

I do hope we get a final holiday season. The decor in dinoland is so much fun.

The lightup caroling dinosaurs they put on top of Donalds' meet area is possibly my favorite piece of Christmas decor on property. It just makes me really happy for some reason.

What I don't see anyone bringing up is Dino-Bash; I'm hoping a desire to keep the meets running as long as possible leads to them preserving a chunk of Route 498 and the Cretacous Trail until the second phase of closing, which would mean more decorated areas.

Or citizens of Hollywood style Chester and Hester Characters. They did that a little bit with Lucky the Dino - and later with a modified version of Flights of Wonder cast members.

Ooh, I've never heard of this modified Flights of Wonder thing; what was that? Was it related to Chester and Hester's meetable versions? The fact that I can't find any images of them drives me nuts.

And I'm surprised they never had a Seeker, especially since they tried out a ton of different characters for the area. Just a dude wandering around going "have you seen a dinosaur? What? No, haha, no, just kidding, of course not, there are no more dinosaurs, uh I...gotta go..." would be really funny and could have gone anywhere in the land.
 
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TrainsOfDisney

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Ooh, I've never heard of this modified Flights of Wonder thing; what was that? Was it related to Chester and Hester's meetable versions?
It was “Guano Joe” from the bird show and one of the bird handlers presenting birds related to dinosaurs and similar characteristics. I only saw it one time, not sure how long it lasted. It was like a street show type thing.
 

danlb_2000

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Permits filed for three trailers behind Dinosaur.

621 MARINA AL(OPERATIONS TR R364) - Buena Vista Construction Company - Provide labor, material and/or electrical for construction
504 DINOLAND DR(DINOLAND OPERATIONS TR W164) - Buena Vista Construction Company - Provide labor, material and/or electrical for construction
502 DINOLAND DR(DINOLAND SHOW QUALITY TR W183) - Buena Vista Construction Company - Provide labor, material and/or electrical for construction

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AidenRodriguez731

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When they announce the closure of Dino Land USA, it would be a major missed opportunity if they don't say "experience Dino Land USA before it goes extinct"
Dinoland as a whole going out with a "Countdown to Extinction" themed party/celebration of what was would have been a pretty fun little last nod to everything. I hope we could maybe see some references to Dinoland in the new land. Maybe some newspaper clippings of Indiana being hired by the "Dino Institute" for work nearby. Maybe a version of the Boneyard opening up in South America, technically South America is a pretty frequent place to find fossils iirc.

Maybe on the nose but could also reference "Chester and Hester" as two American charlatans who have been spotted trying to sell oddities/scams to locals.
 

Quietmouse

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So will this transformation to tropical America land allow animal kingdom late? Or will it still close early because of the animals well-being?

I wish I could experience at avatar at night because the photos I see look stunning.

I’ve heard things where people will say it’s because of staffing issues, or Disney executives still view animal kingdom as a half day park, or the other reason is so the animals are properly taken care of and aren’t exposed to people/firework celebrations late at night.

I know zoos are typically only open until 5/6 pm in the United States…so if animal kingdom is viewed as a zoological park then will we essentially never see animal kingdom open late ?

I feel there should be ways to mitigate the impact of human activity/noise, because obviously animal kingdom isn’t built out and there will be more lands/attractions in the future.


But realistically, if you continue to expand animal kingdom how do you justify it only staying open until 6?
 

cjkeating

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What I don't see anyone bringing up is Dino-Bash; I'm hoping a desire to keep the meets running as long as possible leads to them preserving a chunk of Route 498 and the Cretacous Trail until the second phase of closing, which would mean more decorated areas.
I would expect the meets (or at least the character budget) to be moved elsewhere around the park.

So will this transformation to tropical America land allow animal kingdom late? Or will it still close early because of the animals well-being?
The shorter hours aren't anything to do with animal well-being. So hopefully longer hours return like pre-COVID.

Hoping the Indians Jones temple is visible from the fountain plaza as I’ve always felt Dinosaur was hurt by visibility or lack thereof. The red temple should draw the eye more at least.
If anything on the model I think access to Dinosaur/Indy looks more hidden/forested away.
 

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