16 months was also Splash -> Bayou's conversion time, and I believe Maelstrom was around there too. Seems to be the usual time for a Disney retheme.
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News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom
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CosmicDuck
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Is the new carousel *technically* WDI's first original attraction in over a decade?
I mean it has a storyline that isn't based on any particular piece of IP...
I mean it has a storyline that isn't based on any particular piece of IP...
sedati
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Closest depiction I can find is from the Temple of the Foliated Cross/World Tree
Temple of the Cross | Maya Ruins of Palenque
mayaruins.com
"At the portal of the Temple of the Cross, we see a variant of the World Tree. This cross-shaped Tree, with the Serpent Bar of kingship entwined in its branches and the Celestial Bird standing on its crown, was the central axis of the cosmos [the Milky Way galaxy].
Along this axis rose and descended the souls of the dead and the gods called from the Otherworld by the vision rite to talk to human beings. It was the path the Cosmic Monster took as the sun and Venus moved through its body on their daily journeys.
The king himself was the worldly manifestation of this axis, and this emphasized his role as the source of magical power. He was not only the primary practitioner of the rituals that contacted the Otherworld: he was the pathway itself."
sedati
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The temple itself is still a clear variation of the Rosalila Temple as I'd mentioned here:
forums.wdwmagic.com
The new art features a monolith which resembles those found in Copan:
News - 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom
Image of the temple mock-up. No forbidden eye. No crystal skull. There is something at the top though. Looks like a beast with a huge open mouth... and ears. But in the concept art it's red. Seems odd. Googling "Myan Red Temple" led to this: Looks the same. It's called Rosalila...
The new art features a monolith which resembles those found in Copan:
They kept Grand Ave. muppet fountain and have recently refurbished it.
They added one to Remy plaza.
JoW is a fountain replacement trading a large show for smaller interactive engagement.
Illuminous features top notch fountains.
EPCOT got a brand new entrance-fountain.
Pandora was built with impressive waterfalls (not counting the fake one featuring cotton on a wheel).
The Morocco fountain was retained despite the horrific re-tiling.
A water feature was included in the Rise queue (should have been visible from the main walkway, tho)
IMDREW
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And you are saying??
Haha, no, I'm probably just still bitter about that new wonderful Epcot planter in the middle of the World Celebration. And I think they should built some in Studios park in Paris, but I think a lot regarding that park and the decisions made there.
ChewbaccaYourMum
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I remember a while back we were hearing from insiders that Indiana Jones is going to be really amazing and not just a "cheap" overlay. I'm wondering if any insiders can chime in, is this still the consensus for this ride? Like major E-ticket potential with AA's and huge sets?
I'm a huge Indy fan and have wanted a ride in my home parks forever, and I want to make sure to keep my expectations in check over the next 3 years.
I'm a huge Indy fan and have wanted a ride in my home parks forever, and I want to make sure to keep my expectations in check over the next 3 years.
Bocabear
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The versions of Indy I have been on only offered like two animatronics and a couple moving set parts(snake) with projections and lighting effects... It is still a great ride...I am hopeful that this version will be specially plussed up, but even if not, it will be a great ride and a great replacement for Dinosaur...Especially it it includes a queue as fabulous as Disneyland's version...
Bocabear
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me too....I think it will end up being a filler attraction with a lot of screens.....
Prototype82
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The carousel actually could be really beautiful. Just hoping we get a couple habitats...
rle4lunch
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Hopefully all the announced projects are actually "shovel ready" so they can meet their aggressive timelines. I kinda give them a pass on Tron due to the stupidity of the pandemic (and the 185 year Epcot overhaul to some degree), but if they are actually serious about these 2-3-4-5 year timelines, that'll be more impressive to me than the attractions themselves. Please don't give us a dumbed down 7DMT or sub 1 minute door coaster.
SteamboatJoe
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No animal habitats would be my only gripe.
I would love for AK to add capacity but we pretty much knew DinoLand wasn't permanent. It was never even supposed to last as long as it did. A shame we are losing dinosaurs altogether but at least it's for South America and something that doesn't fit at all.
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Bocabear
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yeah but the queue building, set pieces, landscaping and rock work will take some time... IJ Adventure at Disneyland has an epic queue...going from jungle to temple... It is beautiful...I hope they do something just as detailed....
JohnD
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I don't think they got rid of Fountain of Nations for the sake of getting rid of it. But if they were going to put in Moana: Journey of Water, it's likely they couldn't have both that and the fountain.
JohnD
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Any possibility for animals in the new area? Obviously, holding pens would have to be built to keep them at night. Piranhas probably wouldn't be a good idea, though.
jeanericuser001
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Well I guess I was way off. I will admit I was wrong. I guess this means the encanto attraction at magic kingdom is no longer a thing. Good. Cars land and villains land is perfect. Adding Encanto into that mix was like combining cheetos covered in chocolate. It must mean also the encanto show at epcot is not doing as well as hoped. Adding more rides to animal kingdom is a good thing but we will see if disney tries to get everything they promised done and not cut a lot of the budget.
cdunlap
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The temple looks like a mix of Rosalila Temple (Copan), The Temple Of The Grand Jaguar (Tikal), and a few of the temples at Palenque (See below).
KDM31091
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But are they really adding more?
Dino to Indy is a lateral move. Triceratops Spin to Carousel, arguably a lateral move or a slight increase in popularity but nothing huge. Primeval Whirl is gone, but even if you exclude that, you're still left with Boneyard, so one of those two or even the two combined equals Encanto. So it's a break even, not really an addition.
I think WDW fans, at least I know I am, are sick of the constant add and subtract. Just add to the parks. Then everyone wins.