News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
So if they are moving forward with Encanto, could anyone provide any details on what that would entail? Is it a ride? Is it focused on the boy who talks to animals or is it more general for the IP?
No one is saying at this point. Maybe Disney doesn't even know for sure yet.
 

Moth

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I still can't get over how they're giving Indiana Jones, who's recent film is now sitting alongside John Carter as "one of the biggest flops of all time" is getting a whole ing land. Surely we can get Chicken Little in Epcot now, right?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I still can't get over how they're giving Indiana Jones, who's recent film is now sitting alongside John Carter as "one of the biggest flops of all time" is getting a whole ing land. Surely we can get Chicken Little in Epcot now, right?
Because IJ had successful movies as well as bombs. They're not going to make the ride based on one of the bombs. The IJ Stunt Show doesn't become horrible because of a recent dud. The IJ ride in DL doesn't become spurned by guests because of a recent dud.
 

britain

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Two words: GIFT. SHOP.

If they can show that (despite the last two films being disappointments) the Indiana Jones IP is still popular enough to sell more fedoras, jackets and rubber snakes than anything sold at Chester & Hesters, it’s worth the change over.

It’s possible that they just wanted to see if dial of destiny really caused merchandise sales to dip at the DL Indiana Jones outpost. I suspect that it’s been long enough to demonstrate that the merchandise at that gift shop is moving as steadily as it ever has, and so adding the attraction to AK will be seen as a wise investment.
 

MrPromey

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This I can confirm I’ve heard the same. It is being written and designed to be fully integrated into Animal Kingdom. It won’t be a clone, story wise to any other Indy ride.

So no animatronics, light on practical effects, heavy on screens and projection mapping with low hourly capacity?

I jest, of course... but that's also kind of my honest expectation when I hear they're going totally new these days.
 
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MrPromey

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Internally, it’s called, “Project Bruno,” but they don’t talk about it.
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Maybe I just went a little too meta...



Then again, merfolk are mythic creatures. :oops:
 

WorldExplorer

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Two words: GIFT. SHOP.

If they can show that (despite the last two films being disappointments) the Indiana Jones IP is still popular enough to sell more fedoras, jackets and rubber snakes than anything sold at Chester & Hesters, it’s worth the change over.

It’s possible that they just wanted to see if dial of destiny really caused merchandise sales to dip at the DL Indiana Jones outpost. I suspect that it’s been long enough to demonstrate that the merchandise at that gift shop is moving as steadily as it ever has, and so adding the attraction to AK will be seen as a wise investment.

Indiana Jones would need to be a better seller than DINOSAURS, the notorious obsession of small children regardless of what movies they watch. I would need to see numbers to believe that. Especially since Disney doesn't treat Indy like a big merchandise seller in Disney World. It had a franchise-specific gift shop and yet they haven't bothered to reopen it and instead all the merchandise they sell can now fit on one five foot wide or so wall or one free standing display.

That's not even taking into account Dino-Rama's Baby's First Gambling Experience setup, which has to be a huge money funnel and they would lose with any proposed change.
 

Fox&Hound

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I am really curious what happens to the boneyard play area with all of this. I hope they are not shortsighted and they remove it. Every park should have a safe place (like Dumbo in MK and the boneyard) where little kids can run free and be safe. Say what you will about Zootopia but retheming that area to little rodentia would have been adorable. Does this become part of Indy? Encanto?

Still wish Up was considered for this South America land. How DIS has not built Carl’s and Ellie’s house with all of the balloons above it in any of their parks is beyond me.
 

SpectreJordan

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Dinosaurs are not a successful Disney IP/franchise...but they are for their main competitor.

So they're not a part of the Disney brand in the eyes of management.
I wish they'd make a Countdown to Extinction movie. It'd be a pretty fun premise for an adventure movie. They just need to get someone with some talent & vision for it like the Pirates trilogy had. Kind of a tall order for Disney nowadays though.
I still can't get over how they're giving Indiana Jones, who's recent film is now sitting alongside John Carter as "one of the biggest flops of all time" is getting a whole ing land. Surely we can get Chicken Little in Epcot now, right?
One flop, that is Disney's own fault in multiple ways, doesn't negate the massive success of the other four movies (Yes, even Skull was a big hit). It also doesn't negate how the Disneyland Indy ride is one of the most beloved Disney rides in the world.

I'd say Indy is a more reasonable choice for a new ride than something recent that's only had one movie. It's proven to be stable outside of Disney's recent failure.
 

Brer Panther

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One flop, that is Disney's own fault in multiple ways, doesn't negate the massive success of the other four movies (Yes, even Skull was a big hit).
The 2011 Muppets movie being successful didn't stop Disney from not making any more theatrical Muppet movies after Muppets Most Wanted flopped.
 

Animaniac93-98

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I still can't get over how they're giving Indiana Jones, who's recent film is now sitting alongside John Carter as "one of the biggest flops of all time" is getting a whole ing land.

In the Behind the Attraction episode for Indiana Jones, Tony Baxter retells the story of Eisner saying "we can't afford not to do it". It had already been so many years since Last Crusade and they wanted to capitalize on the franchise while the character was still in the cultural zeitgeist.

Given the reception to the last 2 Indiana Jones movies, its obvious the character [and his actor] is way past its prime, even if there's still nostalgia for the original trilogy.

It doesn't make sense from Iger's IP philosophy, except it was one he bought himself and maybe feels obligated to use it.
 

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