RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
Agreed, a Lion King dark ride makes a ton of sense. There's room South of the theater, and if they want to move some roads/parking lots, they could actually do something very substantial.
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom
- Thread starter wdwmagic
- Start date
Brer Panther
Well-Known Member
With our luck, it'd probably be based on the remake.
It is the only attraction of the list that was closed when still a popular draw. Unique in that regard. It's replacement is a different chapter.
doctornick
Well-Known Member
The idea that ordinary people would need training for space flight (because ostensibly space travel is attainable for everyone) strikes me as an aspirational futuristic concept.
zipadee999
Well-Known Member
Ok, I’ll give you that. Where I’m coming from though is that the vibe feels a little too much like a NASA exhibit at the Smithsonian. Everything else that is/was at Epcot feels a little ‘grander.’The idea that ordinary people would need training for space flight (because ostensibly space travel is attainable for everyone) strikes me as an aspirational futuristic concept.
You’re right, getting a ‘space travel’ experience as an average guest is unarguably pretty cool. It feels very much like Test Track 1.0 and 2000s Epcot. In the late 90s and early 2000s Epcot seemed to take a turn from ‘what the future could be’ to a more ‘present day science’ take on things. Although I’d take test track 1.0 over 2.0 any day of the week, I do prefer the older style of theming that would be more in line with something like Horizons than more of the ‘modern scientific’ feel. When I’m at a theme park, I want to be wowed and feel like I’m doing things that no human being could actually do. Mission space just feels a little too grounded for me.
Yes it’s cool for what it is and very well done at achieving its goal, it just has never done much for me personally. All of the other screen based rides immerse me almost completely, but when I’m on MS I’m always completely aware that I’m just sitting inside a plastic lunchbox
Bocabear
Well-Known Member
I think if they had fleshed out Mission Space with the entire Mars Base Pavilion as was the original intent it would be extremely popular...The training and the long walk to the gift shop and indoor children's play space are a real let-down. They could have used the WOL Pavilion for the Mars Base and like the old Living Seas, put everyone on a fantastic thematic journey from the landing pad to Mars Base...It could have been amazing~!
sedati
Well-Known Member
Looking at "If You Had Wings" both in structure and financing and thinking "what if half our new park was just this" was maybe an error.
Looking at New Orleans Square and thinking "What if the other half of our new park was just this minus Pirates and Mansion but keeping the overpriced merch and dining" was also maybe an error.
(Yes this is absurdly reductive but so are 90% of the arguments here)
Last edited:
Basil of Baker Street
Well-Known Member
Or Jungle Book in Asia. I don't get it either..
Wait. Did Bob approve a remake of the remake, or another remake of the original? And what happens to the original sequel and the original in-between-original-and-sequal half-sequel? Where will the live-action remake fit into the timeline? Will the prequel be based on the original, the remake, or the remake of the remake?
Still have no idea what Encanto, Coco, Indiana Jones, or anything else suggested has to do with the theme of Animal Kingdom. But neither do Bob or Josh, so it's full-steam ahead with anything they decide on, because ... money. And stuff.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
It’s a remake of the prequel to the sequel’s remake. Don’t be daft.Wait. Did Bob approve a remake of the remake, or another remake of the original? And what happens to the original sequel and the original in-between-original-and-sequal half-sequel? Where will the live-action remake fit into the timeline? Will the prequel be based on the original, the remake, or the remake of the remake?
yensidtlaw1969
Well-Known Member
And yet the park was more successful in its first 15 years than it has been any of the time that followed. Which is (coincidentally, I'm sure) when they started to deviate from the original approach.
UNCgolf
Well-Known Member
The original EPCOT also engendered more lasting love than any other theme park, absent maybe Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom (but they haven't changed nearly as much).
sedati
Well-Known Member
Yes, nostalgia oddly does coincide with the age of a thing.
UNCgolf
Well-Known Member
If it was nostalgia, every single theme park would fall into this category -- both Hollywood Studios and Universal Studios Florida, e.g., are very different parks than they were when they opened and neither gets anything close to the reverence EPCOT receives.
It could just be possible that original EPCOT actually was great and people truly did love it, and that's why it gets so much more discussion, call backs, etc. than any other park.
Last edited:
Rich Brownn
Well-Known Member
It was unique because literally every ride in Future World was a 15-minute epic extravaganza, filled with animatronics and each was its own little "world". Now they have been replaced with 5-minute thrill rides or IP-filled nonsense.
LittleBuford
Well-Known Member
Perhaps attendance isn’t what you’re referring to, but the numbers complicate your claim a bit:
UNCgolf
Well-Known Member
If I remember the data correctly (for whatever it's worth, considering it's not like Disney officially released numbers), while EPCOT did peak in 1987, it drew essentially the same amount of guests as Magic Kingdom in 1988 and actually outdrew the Magic Kingdom in 1989, so the fact that the peak was in 1987 doesn't necessarily say much -- e.g., I think Magic Kingdom's attendance peaked in the late 1970s and didn't hit that number again until the mid-late 90s.
EPCOT finally dropped a bit behind the MK in 1990 (that was Splash Mountain's first full year of operation, which I imagine had an impact, as well as Disney-MGM's first full year of operation), but stayed solidly in second place and relatively close to the MK until the mid-late 90s.
Last edited:
doctornick
Well-Known Member
This. There’s a lack of “lesser” rides in DHS to fill out the day. And the shows are largely scheduled at specific times so they aren’t really convenient to just pop in to them when you have time. Only Muppetvision and (I guess) the Mickey short in Sounds Dangerous are continuously showing.
The park has headliners, it needs C ticket rides and some additional continuously running AA or 3D shows (as opposed to live performances) to make touring the park easier and more enjoyable. It also could use a connection from Animation Courtyard to the RNR area to improve guest flow