DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[JackCH]

Hey guys! Let’s all take five calm and deeeep breaths and move on from this conversation. Let’s bring the topic back to:

'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom​

WDI has made excellent attractions and terrible disasters in both decades, and the parks have all received improvement from these decades. There really isn’t much to fight about…

The real question is will Encanto be better than Primeval Whirl?

 

[celluloid]

The real question is will Encanto be better than Primeval Whirl?

Of course, when it finishes it will also be the first new ride for AK since Pandora. About a decade.

 

[Architectural Guinea Pig]

The real question is will Encanto be better than Primeval Whirl?

Nah, Primeval Whirl was clearly the showstopper of the century Encanto is obviously going to be another flop and a reflection on the awfulness of modern WDI

 

[JackCH]

Of course, when it finishes it will also be the first new ride for AK since Pandora. About a decade.

Well played… well played indeed.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Keep in mind CAPEX is also maintainance and general repairs.

Josh made it clear that the announced Capex was for new attractions (including rethemes) and not depreciation nor infrastructure (unless a new build required new infrastructure.

 

[peter11435]

You didn't specifically, but Tower is one major attractions of WDW of the greater era. Objectively.

Yes. It absolutely is! But I never said Tron was.

Once again you are singling out modern attractions from the bottom up.

 

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Yes. It absolutely is! But I never said Tron was.

Once again you are singling out modern attractions from the bottom up.

No I am not. Never was. Pointing out their lack of frequency.
That is why there are eras with more greats than others.

 

[peter11435]

No I am not. Never was. Pointing out their lack of frequency.
That is why there are eras with more greats than others.

lol. You absolutely are! Do you even hear yourself?

You’ve specifically brought up some of the greatest attractions of the past TOT, Splash, and Imagination and selectively compared them to the weakest modern projects Tiana, Toy Story Land, and Tron.

 

[celluloid]

lol. You absolutely are! Do you even hear yourself?

You’ve specifically brought up some of the greatest attractions of the past TOT, Splash, and Imagination and selectively compared them to the weakest modern projects Tiana, Toy Story Land, and Tron.

No. Go back. It was asked what was the era of show stoppers was if someone were to say.(for the record I never said Imagination but that was a great k e six months after in 1983. So I don't even think you read my posts)
I said 1988 to 1998 was full of the most common sistent large investments of greats with most still present, followed by 1972 to about 1982 being the second if one had to pick.

Those greats were not cherry picked. They all fit in a decade.

And as you know have agreed. That era is objectively WDI stronger with hits. Let it go.

The frequency of greats are further apart. Objectively.

As noted. If the new attractions for AK are great, they land ten years since the last great for that park.

 

[peter11435]

No. Go back. It was asked what was the era of show stoppers was if someone were to say.(for the record I never said Imagination but that was a great k e six months after in 1983. So I don't even think you read my posts)
I said 1988 to 1998 was full of the most common sistent large investments of greats with most still present, followed by 1972 to about 1982 being the second if one had to pick.

Those greats were not cherry picked. They all fit in a decade.

And as you know have agreed. That era is objectively WDI stronger with hits. Let it go.

The frequency of greats are further apart. Objectively.

As noted. If the new attractions for AK are great, they land ten years since the last great for that park.

It was another poster that mentioned Imagination and you reacted. My mistake on that one.

And again, you’re missing my point. I’m not saying you’re cherry picking great attractions. I’m saying you’re cherry picking weaker modern attractions to solidify your point.

 

[celluloid]

It was another poster that mentioned Imagination and you reacted. My mistake on that one.

And again, you’re missing my point. I’m not saying you’re cherry picking great attractions. I’m saying you’re cherry picking weaker modern attractions to solidify your point.

Same acusation just flipped argument What era are those in?


I said the gaps between the greats are longer. Objectively true, even with your confusion.
There have been some fun hits scattered...
The era that replaced the greats with lesser...hmm. makes it more obvious which one had more showstoppers for WDI's legacy doesn't it?

Tower of Terror and Splash Mountain and Muppet Vision Era with the weaker major attractions being RnR, Cointdown to Extinction and Alien Encounter, and Honey I Shrunk The Audience ...

Or Guardians, Rat and Pandora. With weaker being Tiana, Tron Slinky and Alien saucers.
One of these has much less. And I did not even mention all of fellow medium hitters of the first era.

Is it really that close for you?
Subjectively. Great if true. You are in the GSAT minority. But still good for you.

Objectively there were more frequent and better rated attractions in the former mentioned.


My original comment was WDI still does great things, but you wait longer. Specifically I meant about a decade between big tickets in each park in what used to be never more than 5.

 

[peter11435]

Same acusation just flipped argument What era are those in?


I said the gaps between the greats are longer. Objectively true, even with your confusion.
There habe been some fun hits scattered...
The era that replaced the greats with lesser...hmm. makes it more obvious which one had more showstoppers for WDI's legacy doesn't it?

Tower of Terror and Splash Mountain and Muppet Vision Era with the weaker major attractions being RnR, Cointdown to Extinction and Alien Encounter, and Honey I Shrunk The Audience ...

Or Guardians, Rat and Pandora. With weaker being Tiana, Tron Slinky and Alien saucers.
One of these has much less. And I did not even mention all of fellow medium hitters of the first era.

Isnitnreally that close for you?
Subjectively. Great if true. You are in the Gsat minority. But still good for you.

Objectively there were more frequent and better rated attractions in the former mentioned.


My original comment was WDI still does great things, but you wait longer. Specifically I meant about a decade between big tickets in each park in what used to be never more than 5.

I don’t know if it’s your reading comprehension or if you just intentionally want to miss the point. But clearly you’re just not getting it.

Have a good night lol

 

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I don’t know if it’s your reading comprehension or if you just intentionally want to miss the point. But clearly you’re just not getting it.

Have a good night lol

I get you are making a point, it just has little to do with what everyone else is discussing.

But go on and insult and run. @JackCH @Casper Gutman For what it is worth, I thought it was a cool ponder to bring up. Thanks for the discussion

 

[peter11435]

I get you are making a point, it just has little to do with what everyone else is discussing.

But go on and insult and run. @JackCH @Casper Gutman For what it is worth, I thought it was a cool ponder to bring up. Thanks for the discussion

I’m not running. I’m just tired of having this discussion with someone who is intentionally missing the point. I’m not even sure you knew what you were discussing half the time as you continually added additional qualifiers and filters. I’m not the only one who has called you out for that here.

 

[celluloid]

I’m not running. I’m just tired of having this discussion with someone who is intentionally missing the point. I’m not even sure you knew what you were discussing half the time as you continually added additional qualifiers and filters. I’m not the only one who has called you out for that here.

No point was intentionally missed. There was just little to do with the discussion. We hear ya. Well everyone else was done with the discussion and you come out blazing as if there is some point that must be missed. Then the lols, the insults and goodnight comes in. Yeah, best to stop if you are tired.

I like the ponders and discussions the others post.

 

[peter11435]

I like the ponders and discussions the others post.

Well yeah. I doubt you like being called out.

And yeah… you were missing the point. Quite possibly you still are.

 

[celluloid]

Well yeah. I doubt you like being called out.

I think little of it because I am not sure what I am out of or on?

 

[UNCgolf]

This was true of Magic Kingdom as well, which had stores like The King's Gallery, House of Magic, Old World Antiques, plus smaller diversions like Main Street Cinema (when it was a Cinema).

The homogenizing of WDW didn't just dilute individual park themes, it made many stores and restaurants bland too.

Definitely -- it just didn't hurt Magic Kingdom as much as it hurt DHS because Magic Kingdom had (and still has) so much else going for it.

It's one of the biggest reason the Magic Kingdom feels like a slightly weaker park today than it did in 1993, though. There have been other changes, but they're more or less a wash overall with some improvements and some decline.

 

[celluloid]

And yeah… you were missing the point. Quite possibly you still are.

Nope. I just think little of it because it's not bringing any discussion or relating to it.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

The problem is that none of the new attractions are clear “home runs” - they all have significant downsides. I love MMRR, for instance… but it replaced another attraction I ALSO loved, so it’s a lateral move. The closest thing to a pure “win” is Avatar Land, but that land still feels underbuilt and the water ride is one third of an attraction.

Nothing Disney has built recently in Orlando compares to ToT, the original Imagination, Splash Mountain…

Rise, Fop, Guardians?