DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[Twirlnhurl]

Sure the show-buildings have the same perimeter, but think about how much will have to change. I think if Indy comes, we're getting a far inferior version that takes place in a jungle (hopefully with a few carnotaurus animatronics). Should have just fixed the masterpiece they already had.

I hope they don't make he majority of the ride take place in a jungle. To me, that is the primary reason why Dinosaur is inferior to Indiana Jones Adventure. So much of the show building is narrow corridors, with tiny sets (compared to the size of the vehicle). Indiana Jones Adventure works because it is inside a temple which is supposed to be claustrophobic and small (except for the grand central chamber). But achieveing a convincing jungle in those corridors is nearly impossible. Dinosaur certainly didn't figure out how to do it...

 

[Captain Neo]

Wait a second…

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^^That’s the Disney Tokyo Indy ride! Guess we know what to expect:

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Yea I don't think its going to simply be a clone of the Disneyland version. It's either going to be its own thing or borrow heavily from the Tokyo version.

 

[Captain Neo]

Just a final thought: Rhode and WDI should have dropped the "Animal Kingdom represents animals real, imaginary, and extinct" during bluesky planning when it was clear no portion of Beastly Kingdom was getting built as part of the opening year. The park should have just opened with the Americas and an Indiana Jones attraction in the first place. It would have made more sense and been more popular all this time.

It was a mistake to get peoples hopes up.

 

[Movielover]

I was looking at the show buildings for both and they don’t look like the same. Are they actually the same exactly?

The buildings are not identical since they have different entrance and exit points and queue configurations, but the track layout and ride system are the same.

Also, backstage rooms are different, hence why the overall building shape looks different between the two.

The track layouts are 95 percent the same except for the mummy room and mudslide sections. In Indy the mummy room is an additional curve section before the bug room turnaround. This part in Dinosaur is just a straight segment to make room for the first Carno AA. The mudslide section/ downhill section has a slight bend in it on Indy whereas in Dino is straighter. Plus, I think there are more walls in Dino that separate the scenes so yeah, 95 percent the same but some scenes would need slight changes, or more drastic structural changes to the building in order to bring the layout the same as Indy.

 

[Dinoman96]

Just a final thought: Rhode and WDI should have dropped the "Animal Kingdom represents animals real, imaginary, and extinct" during bluesky planning when it was clear no portion of Beastly Kingdom was getting built as part of the opening year. The park should have just opened with the Americas and an Indiana Jones attraction in the first place. It would have made more sense and been more popular all this time.

It was a mistake to get peoples hopes up.

It was also freaking ridiculous that they never bothered to ever scrub out the references to Beastly Kingdom even after the concept was obviously taken out back. To this day, the park's logo and ticket booth still features a dragon that has absolutely nothing to do with anything inside in the park.

That crap should of been erased a long, long time ago, and now they'll have to do the same with the dinosaur references.

 

[monothingie]

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^^That’s the Disney Tokyo Indy ride! Guess we know what to expect:

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No chance.

This is a copy/paste blue sky done on the cheap.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Wait a second…

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^^That’s the Disney Tokyo Indy ride! Guess we know what to expect:

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Those temples don’t really look the same.

The only similarity they share is that they’re both temples.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Yes I suppose as the land is set in the Avatar future timeline we are in the future, however I don't think their is anything in the land that would clearly signpost this? Unless sci-fi = the future? We haven't even seen Earth in the film to know if it is our Earth or an alternative timeline?

I think their is a big differences between a vague future on another planet/moon versus a specific time period about 100 years on earth. Just look how the whole of Dinosaur sets up sending you back in time to see dinosaurs, they don't just happen to exist because when you walk into Dinoland you go back billions of years in time.

The only way we get to Pandora is interstellar travel. That is definitely the future. And the land and attractions take place after Avatar 5.

I'm not sure where this idea of being grounded and in the present comes from. ITtBaB shrinks us down to interact with talking insects. The Yeti isn't real. DINOSAUR has futuristic time travel tech to send us back in the past. Fish and lions sing to us. The tree of life puts on a show of animal spirits. And Beastly Kingdom was once part of the plans for DAK.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Late reply, turned out what I was told about the previous Moana/Zootopia Dinoland overhaul being canned was accurate at least. I didn't know they'd moved Zootopia over to ITTBAB (probably because it sounds like something they cobbled together quickly and cheaply), or that they replaced the Dinoland overhaul with yet another blue sky plan. But the Dinoland plan still sounds like it's far from set in stone.

For anyone else here who might have information that I lack, what makes people think they'll actually go through with this particular plan this time? One year ago it was an entirely different concept. And they were every bit as vague and non-committal about this current iteration as last year's. Arguably even moreso. I'm fairly certain none of this Dinoland content has been given the green light, hence why they're still unwilling to speak decisively.

At the moment, I strongly doubt anyone at Disney currently knows for sure what will actually get built there, if anything. Unless I hear otherwise from someone trustworthy.

 

[danlb_2000]

I guess it's not at all surprising, but it's a little disappointing to see all the sites reporting this as an "announcement", when they made it clear that this is still blue sky planning and may or may not actually happen.

 

[Dinoman96]

Tune in next year where they'll announce all new plans for Dinoland's replacement that will surely happen, this time with Raya and the Last Dragon and Strange World as the headliner IPs.

 

[Kamikaze]

Yeah, for all the emphasis on inclusion, it’s really odd that World Showcase is heavily skewed towards European countries while a fictional African village is pushed into DAK with, soon, a Latin American presence. But

The countries originally paid for the pavilions. That's why.

 

[SpectreJordan]

As I said last year:

I think Avatar is Beastly Kingdom. It's a land based on fictional beasts from what's essentially a modern day myth.

I'm sure whatever '90s Imagineering wanted to do for Beastly Kingdom would've been awesome (Hell, it seems like it just ended up in IOA anyway). But I feel Pandora fits Animal Kingdom better anyway; the lush environments fit better with Africa & Asia than medieval Europe.

Now I definitely think no extinct animals is a mistake. I really wish they were adding this South America land to an expansion pad & were redoing a Dinosaur area without the cheesy roadside theming.

>dial of destiny is saved from being one of the biggest bombs of all time by The Flash existing
>gets a whole land
?????

Dial bombed because of various circumstances that are Disney's own fault.

Indiana Jones has historically been one of the most successful movie series there is. They've always been some of the highest grossing movies of their release years, if not the highest grossing; even Crystal Skull was #2 in 2008, only behind The Dark Knight.

There's still potential in the series if Disney & Lucasfilm learn from their lessons. They clearly need new leadership before they try again though.

Also, this would just be one ride. Not a land.

 

[OSUBMac555]

I highly doubt there would be no additional animal exhibits with this land. If you think Disney would miss the chance to have a capybara exhibit you’re out of your mind.

 

[DAK1928]

A live animal show like Flights of Wonder but set in the Rainforest and hosted by Encanto's Antonio would be awesome

Although a performing Jaguar might be a bit of a liability...

 

[aladdin2007]

A live animal show like Flights of Wonder but set in the Rainforest and hosted by Encanto's Antonio would be awesome

Although a performing Jaguar might be a bit of a liability...

lol a bit...but cool idea nonetheless

 

[flyerjab]

Whatever they end up announcing it better be good. I am seeing this as the location for D23 next year. Hopefully Josh puts his big boy pants down and shows some actual commitment. You can’t keep talking big ideas in overdrive and then get cold feet come commitment time.

 

[DAK1928]

Whatever they end up announcing it better be good. I am seeing this as the location for D23 next year. Hopefully Josh puts his big boy pants down and shows some actual commitment. You can’t keep talking big ideas in overdrive and then get cold feet come commitment time.View attachment 742113

Moreso, if we don't get an announcement until August 2024, I hope whatever is announced is already well into construction (much like Universal's preferred method)

 

[Jrb1979]

Whatever they end up announcing it better be good. I am seeing this as the location for D23 next year. Hopefully Josh puts his big boy pants down and shows some actual commitment. You can’t keep talking big ideas in overdrive and then get cold feet come commitment time.View attachment 742113

You better hope D+ and the Studios turn around quickly and start making money than. Otherwise it will be more of the same. It's quite obvious they don't have the money to do large investments.

 

[Tha Realest]

Whatever they end up announcing it better be good. I am seeing this as the location for D23 next year. Hopefully Josh puts his big boy pants down and shows some actual commitment. You can’t keep talking big ideas in overdrive and then get cold feet come commitment time.View attachment 742113

Depends. Do they make “big boy pants” in a 32x32 slim?