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I don't know. Maybe it's circumstantial, but while DL gets improvements, better maintenance, and refurbs from their management, while we don't, I have my doubts.
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Eddie Sotto's take on the current state of the parks
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I don't know. Maybe it's circumstantial, but while DL gets improvements, better maintenance, and refurbs from their management, while we don't, I have my doubts.
jt04
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I remember the "west coasters" complaining when WDW got two theme parks while DL was falling apart. I really believe large capital investments are directed from the top. It's not like TDO could add a land to AK or a country to WS without Iger approving it and I think that, at least for now, it's not a priority. Of course, ES could be right and they are just waiting to see how Potter does before making any major decisions.
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jt04
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It better. :fork::lol:
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Indeed!:lol:
jt04
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Mr Sotto, thanks for taking the time to read and respond to this thread. I love how Imagineers think outside the box to use that cliche'. I do too, so here is a thought for you.
I don't know if you have ever seen the "Orange County Choppers" show but during this season Paul Jr. is looking to find his niche in the design world. He definitely has talent and is looking to branch out from just motorcycles. Now I realize this seasons's shows are probably "in the can" and I have no idea how this season turns out.
But it might be interesting if he met with some Imagineers (or former Imagineers :lookaroun) to either get guidance or potentially form a partnership, or be brought into an existing enterprise that needs his talents but also the exposure he would bring to an enterprise. Seems like some potentially great synergy. You could have your people call his people :lol: and set up a lunch. At your restaurant of course. Could make a great episode of TV and who knows where it goes from there.
Just a thought. I realize I am probably totally out of line
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And I don't know anyone from OCC, I just thought it might make an interesting show.
I don't know if you have ever seen the "Orange County Choppers" show but during this season Paul Jr. is looking to find his niche in the design world. He definitely has talent and is looking to branch out from just motorcycles. Now I realize this seasons's shows are probably "in the can" and I have no idea how this season turns out.
But it might be interesting if he met with some Imagineers (or former Imagineers :lookaroun) to either get guidance or potentially form a partnership, or be brought into an existing enterprise that needs his talents but also the exposure he would bring to an enterprise. Seems like some potentially great synergy. You could have your people call his people :lol: and set up a lunch. At your restaurant of course. Could make a great episode of TV and who knows where it goes from there.
Just a thought. I realize I am probably totally out of line
.And I don't know anyone from OCC, I just thought it might make an interesting show.
HMF
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Just out of curiousity would it be feasible to ever bring back the Sub Lagoon back to WDW. I know it would be incredibly expensive but is it possible.
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HMF
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Matt Ouimet changed the operating structure of DLR immensely. He really should be head of parks & resorts.
HMF
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And get the Nemo Sub's built and kick him out of the Seas.:animwink:
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WDW1974
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Very amusing story. ... And the restaurant is just wonderful. The food is damn good too and it's must on my visits to DLP. They had one phenomenal dessert that I still drool over when I think about it ...
As to your story, I enjoy seeing people as just that. And not putting them on a pedestal because of their celebrity, fame, money ... or name. The first time I ever really encountered Roy Disney was in 1990 at the shareholders meeting in Anaheim (yeah, the Disney Decade one!) and it was during a very ugly family moment between he, Patty and their daughter. It may sound strange, but watching them go at it, like all families do really humanized the man. I got that he was part of an amazing creative legacy, but was also a regular man with regular family issues. And when he went past me to head outside we exchanged knowing glances ... I wound up meeting him numerous times after (and, no, never mentioned the first meeting) and he's always so down to earth, humble and genuine.
Tony also told me that the fact there are so many JC 'rip-offs' in European parks made it an easier choice to drop from the roster.
Personally, I like that there isn't one. Every MK park doesn't have to be a copy of what came before. Some signature attractions? Sure. But not all are needed ... and unique attractions or even takes on existing ones should drive the creative process in design.
I think that's why many fans criticize HKDL because it really has little unique to it. I love the place (but I just love being in HK) but you can tell where they just opened the filing cabinets and said 'we can do this, this and this.'
BTW, curious Eddie ... have you been to HKDL and, if so, what do you think of the place.
WDW1974
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TDO runs WDW. Much like TDA runs Anaheim.
They all answer to TDB ... they all answer to Jay Rasulo, who answers to Iger and Staggs.
TDO can fight (or not) for money from Burbank. TDO determines what to spend money on and how much, but it is all in concert with P&R.
No, TDO can't just say 'we're adding Attraction X to Park Y' on its own ... it isn't how the company is run.
But TDO absolutely can be faulted when MK gets no new attractions or when a giant hat/pin shack sits in the middle of a park or when Space Mountain gets a very minor rehab vs. a major redo or when a parade or show runs years past its use by date.
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They are also in control of Maintenance,correct? Do they have any choice over marketing?
WDW1974
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Anything is possible. But it would never happen.
Why would you spend millions to remove something only to spend many times that later to return it? You wouldn't.
It's kind of like when fanbois fantasize about bringing Horizons to MK or CoP to EPCOT or building a fifth park made up entirely of attractions removed from other parks.
Sure. It's possible. Just like it's possible the world will end today. Just neither are very likely.
jt04
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Again, I remember the "westcoasters" making the same complaints for many many years. It just fell on deaf ears. Disney mangement got to the DLR overhaul in their own time despite the complaining. Same will happen at WDW I suspect. When TWDC (specifically Iger/Lasseter) decide it is time for WDW to get some nice adds then it will happen. Hopefully soon!
WDW1974
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Maintenance is controlled locally. Meaning say EPCOT controls that park based on a budget they receive from TDO. How the parks choose to allocate, prioritize what gets done (or doesn't) is up to the leadership of that park.
Marketing is a different animal. Burbank controls the big picture ... for instance the Celebrate Today campaign ... or bundling parks under Disney Parks: Where Dreams Come True campaigns ... but then WDW Marketing takes over while working with P&R on everything from local TV and billboards to national print to getting placement on ... well, basically anything that gets the word out.
EPCOT Explorer
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Very interesting...
So, say EPCOT wants to advertise their new SSE. They can create new media and new promos through *their* offices?
WDW1974
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Yeah. Those complaints about neglect, poor maintenance and cast training being ignored wound up leading to people DYING and major black eyes for the company.
One would hope they aren't stupid enough to let WDW crumble to the point DL was before Matt came in and the park was restored to tope shape for its 50th.
Too often management will sit back and not spend say $5,000 on a repair that is needed and they ignore it for years so when they have to fix the 'issue' it may now be a $500,000 fix. That's stupid on so many levels, yet happens all the time.
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