Dumbo & Main Street Updates

[SuddenStorm]

There are millions of customers waiting to take up the slack and experience the improved park.

Is that really true? Park doesn't reach capacity most days. It only happens a couple times a year at most. So are there really "millions of people" who'd pick up the slack if Disney turned away hundreds- if not thousands of potential guests any given day or week?

 

[Phroobar]

Is that really true? Park doesn't reach capacity most days. It only happens a couple times a year at most. So are there really "millions of people" who'd pick up the slack if Disney turned away hundreds- if not thousands of potential guests any given day or week?

A tree only has a certain number of nuts.

 

[mickEblu]

74" or taller.

Phew! Barely made it!

 

[Rich T]

Is that really true? Park doesn't reach capacity most days. It only happens a couple times a year at most. So are there really "millions of people" who'd pick up the slack if Disney turned away hundreds- if not thousands of potential guests any given day or week?

Once word got out (probably take--what--a week) Disney wouldn't be turning huge oversized strollers away very often because people would know not to bring them in the first place. There'd be a tough transition period (tuff it out, Disney! Grow a spine!), but it would quickly calm down. RV-sized strollers would go the way of the on-ride selfie-stick.

Bottom line: when something becomes a hazard or public nuisance (or just uglifies the whole park), it should not be allowed through the gates. (Disney took far too long to address the Fantasmic AP Hobo Camp situation).

 

[SuddenStorm]

Once word got out (probably take--what--a week) Disney wouldn't be turning huge oversized strollers away very often because people would know not to bring them in the first place. There'd be a tough transition period (tuff it out, Disney! Grow a spine!), but it would quickly calm down. RV-sized strollers would go the way of the on-ride selfie-stick.

Bottom line: when something becomes a hazard or public nuisance (or just uglifies the whole park), it should not be allowed through the gates. Disney took far too long to address the Fantasmic AP Hobo Camp situation).

I mean, the electric scooters used by disabled guests could be considered a hazard or nuisance to those around them? Should Disney ban those?

I guess I don't believe that strollers are a hazard- how many stroller related injuries have there been at the DLR?

Are they a public nuisance? Or an amenity that helps ease the day for families who bring their young children (let's remember- Disney's not just for adults). If a single mom takes two toddlers, is it unfair for her to bring a larger, double seat stroller?

As far as the ugly aspect goes- the simple act of having people inside the park uglifies it. The most beautiful photos are most often the ones where the park is empty, or close to it.

Maybe I just go on the wrong days, but stroller parking has never gotten in the way of where I want to go. Disneyland is a small, cramped park- choke points exist but they're not caused by strollers. They're caused by poor planning when building the park and the thousands of guests that visit each day.

Disneyland is a vacation destination that tries to get families to stay for days at a time. The last thing they'll do is limit the strollers- something that makes a day at the park with young children loads easier- and miss out on potential visits. If the park was at capacity daily, they'd maybe consider it, but until then, don't expect anything to change.

How many "huge RV sized strollers" get brought into the park vs normal sized ones anyway? Would turning them away actually alleviate any crowding, or would it cause families to just bring two regular sized ones?

 

[Rich T]

I mean, the electric scooters used by disabled guests could be considered a hazard or nuisance to those around them? Should Disney ban those?

I guess I don't believe that strollers are a hazard- how many stroller related injuries have there been at the DLR?

Are they a public nuisance? Or an amenity that helps ease the day for families who bring their young children (let's remember- Disney's not just for adults). If a single mom takes two toddlers, is it unfair for her to bring a larger, double seat stroller?

As far as the ugly aspect goes- the simple act of having people inside the park uglifies it. The most beautiful photos are most often the ones where the park is empty, or close to it.

Maybe I just go on the wrong days, but stroller parking has never gotten in the way of where I want to go. Disneyland is a small, cramped park- choke points exist but they're not caused by strollers. They're caused by poor planning when building the park and the thousands of guests that visit each day.

Disneyland is a vacation destination that tries to get families to stay for days at a time. The last thing they'll do is limit the strollers- something that makes a day at the park with young children loads easier- and miss out on potential visits. If the park was at capacity daily, they'd maybe consider it, but until then, don't expect anything to change.

To be clear:
People who genuinely need scooters (and use them responsibly unlike some banned scooter drivers) should have them in-park.
People should bring the smallest possible stroller that will accommodate their needs. Many people do. Some people don't.
Stroller parking lots are uglier than most groups of guests.
Disney could do more to limit outrageously-oversized strollers if they had the guts to do so.
I also think otherwise non-physically challenged people who are simply too out of shape and lazy to stand in line or walk should not be allowed wheels.
And people who try to bring "Emotional Assist" animals into the park should be sent to a desert island.
And this is a theme park forum where non-important issues are fun to get emotionally charged about.
And yeah, I don't expect Disney to do a darned thing about the stroller problem.

 

[SuddenStorm]

To be clear:
People who genuinely need scooters (and use them responsibly unlike some banned scooter drivers) should have them in-park.
People should bring the smallest possible stroller that will accommodate their needs. Many people do. Some people don't.
Stroller parking lots are uglier than most groups of guests.
Disney could do more to limit outrageously-oversized strollers if they had the guts to do so.
I also think otherwise non-physically challenged people who are simply too out of shape and lazy to stand in line or walk should not be allowed wheels.
And people who try to bring "Emotional Assist" animals into the park should be sent to a desert island.
And this is a theme park forum where non-important issues are fun to get emotionally charged about.
And yeah, I don't expect Disney to do a darned thing about the stroller problem.

This post ignores an important question I asked at the end of my comment:

How many "huge RV sized strollers" get brought into the park vs normal sized ones anyway? Would turning them away actually alleviate any crowding, or would it cause families to just bring two regular sized ones?

This question is key- how many of those oversized trollers house two (or more) children? By banning them, wouldn't we just see two normal strollers instead?

 

[Rich T]

This post ignores an important question I asked at the end of my comment:

How many "huge RV sized strollers" get brought into the park vs normal sized ones anyway? Would turning them away actually alleviate any crowding, or would it cause families to just bring two regular sized ones?

This question is key- how many of those oversized trollers house two (or more) children? By banning them, wouldn't we just see two normal strollers instead?

Answer: I do not know. I'd like to know. And, really, I'd rather see two normal sized strollers; more flexibility with the ability to move single-file when needed. And if they can collapse, so much the better.

All joking and exaggerating aside, it would be nice if every family could simply show a little common sense and courtesy (or be forced to do so at the gate ) by not using more stroller than they absolutely need. Just because someone can afford the BMW climate-controlled bratmaster 5000 doublewide rolling self-parking daycaremobile doesn't mean they should take it into a crowded theme park. Evah.

 

[Professortango1]

I mean, the electric scooters used by disabled guests could be considered a hazard or nuisance to those around them? Should Disney ban those?

I guess I don't believe that strollers are a hazard- how many stroller related injuries have there been at the DLR?

Are they a public nuisance? Or an amenity that helps ease the day for families who bring their young children (let's remember- Disney's not just for adults). If a single mom takes two toddlers, is it unfair for her to bring a larger, double seat stroller?

As far as the ugly aspect goes- the simple act of having people inside the park uglifies it. The most beautiful photos are most often the ones where the park is empty, or close to it.

Maybe I just go on the wrong days, but stroller parking has never gotten in the way of where I want to go. Disneyland is a small, cramped park- choke points exist but they're not caused by strollers. They're caused by poor planning when building the park and the thousands of guests that visit each day.

Disneyland is a vacation destination that tries to get families to stay for days at a time. The last thing they'll do is limit the strollers- something that makes a day at the park with young children loads easier- and miss out on potential visits. If the park was at capacity daily, they'd maybe consider it, but until then, don't expect anything to change.

How many "huge RV sized strollers" get brought into the park vs normal sized ones anyway? Would turning them away actually alleviate any crowding, or would it cause families to just bring two regular sized ones?

Both scooters and strollers are essential for certain people, but abused by others. Considering the cost of scooters and wheelchairs, I'd be willing to bet that most who bring them need them. The rental costs for Disney help control the abuse further.

Strollers are more common for families to own and far too often used as a crutch for parents to push their kids beyond their enjoyment level. If your child is young and cannot really walk extended periods, use a stroller. If your kid is 4+, time to have Jr walk. When they get tired take a break or head home. That's why kids' tickets are cheaper.

Parents have also started using strollers as a locker. But lockers are available in the park. We don't have room for everyone to have a traveling storage container.

The solution needs to be Disney-owned strollers only unless there's a medical necessity for having your own. This way, Disney can control the size and storage capacity. There's less danger of a stroller or personal items being stolen. And the cost of renting a stroller helps stem abuse as I'd hope the parent of a 1st grader would have the kid walk rather than spending extra money on a stroller.

As for guest impact, it would certainly make a difference. Strollers clog up some needed breathing areas and I know I'm clipped by them constantly at the park.

 

[Phroobar]

I can see having assist animals for people in the parks. Dogs are great for that and Disney has places for dogs to do their duty.

However, I think people cross the line with emotional assist ponies.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Star Wars is a popcorn space movie for adolescents.

 

[TROR]

I can see having assist animals for people in the parks. Dogs are great for that and Disney has places for dogs to do their duty.

However, I think people cross the line with emotional assist ponies.

I support both.

 

[drizgirl]

I'm thinking you're joking; Star Wars most definitely is for kids. Babies, no. Not all current SW projects are appropriate for very young children, but this is a franchise that Lucas designed from the get-go as a kids' story (his own words).

Definitely joking. There was a discussion on the thread about the new Star Wars resort a while back arguing over whether they would allow children to participate, and some tried to contend that Star Wars wasn't for kids.

 

[Curious Constance]

 

[Curious Constance]

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

What the?

 

[TP2000]

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I don't get it. What the heck is that giant TV screen thing in the middle of the wall?

 

[Curious Constance]

I don't get it. What the heck is that giant TV screen thing in the middle of the wall?

Poster of Dumbo. I can post a pic one sec

 

[Curious Constance]

I don't get it. What the heck is that giant TV screen thing in the middle of the wall?

 

[mickEblu]

By the size of those shrubs looks like we ll have a hedge wall in 35 short years folks. I can’t wait to take my grandkids to DL in 2055 to relive the magic of the Dumbo hedge wall.

Wow that would make me 72 going on 73. Not too bad but no spring chicken. It would be awesome to be at DLs 100th. Being that I didn’t get to make it to the grand opening and all.