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As a general rule, I don’t have a problem with strollers, as long as they are a reasonable size.

Really? Maybe encountering two or three small to medium strollers at any given time is manageable, but on busy days, which is basically all the time, this is what Disneyland can look like when thousands of parents descend on the park with their mobile living rooms. I don't disagree that their size can be an issue, but the incredible number of them in the parks today is far more bothersome issue to me, and it's one of the reasons why I prefer the overall experience at DCA to Disneyland.

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999happyhants

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The stroller question is one I am sure Disney has been asking for a long time, and there really isn't an easy solution. Its unrealistic to expect Disney to ban all strollers because parents really do need them sometimes, and there really isn't anywhere to park them while they are on rides. Maybe keep the strollers down to just small umbrella style strollers and have ones cheap to rent. That will help a bit, I think.
 

nevol

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Having a small 2.5 year old in a big crowd and wanting a stroller is completely understandable. The parks are more crowded than ever. But when a child is 6 years old, come... ON. Selfish and lazy. And of course there were moms on the facebook page with every excuse in the world... "my child is tall for their age and they're 2" or "my kid plays baseball and is physically fit so what if we use a stroller at disneyland a few days a year (child was 7)."

About FB, they've grown on me. They might not always know what they're talking about but the construction updates are constant and current and their enthusiasm and excitement is genuine. Yensid 55's updates are the best but you have to wait an entire month. In the photo department, I turn to Westcoaster. Dave from FB reads this forum too. I'm not an AP, despite living in LA, so as Micechat has taken a nosedive in the absence of Monday's Dateline Disneylands (having been replaced by Disney Debbie's iphone 5s photos etc), they are my window into the mind of the AP/local Disneyland culture and consumer. When I go, I barely eat. When the bloggers go, they try out every new donut, ice cream, merchandise item, etc.
 

dweezil78

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Really? Maybe encountering two or three small to medium strollers at any given time is manageable, but on busy days, which is basically all the time, this is what Disneyland can look like when thousands of parents descend on the park with their mobile living rooms. I don't disagree that their size can be an issue, but the incredible number of them in the parks today is far more bothersome issue to me, and it's one of the reasons why I prefer the overall experience at DCA to Disneyland.

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Lol... As someone who actually does need to bring a stroller to the park, I know those spots very well and can assure you those are some extreme closeups with the intention of making it seem way worse than it is. I'm not saying there aren't bottlenecks and headaches caused by strollers at points in the park, but those spots in particular are not nearly as bad as they are made to appear in those photos. For example, here's a better shot of what that Toon Town spot really looks like and you can see it's all off to the side (and heavily enforced to stay that way).

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Lol... As someone who actually does need to bring a stroller to the park, I know those spots very well and can assure you those are some extreme closeups with the intention of making it seem way worse than it is. I'm not saying there aren't bottlenecks and headaches caused by strollers at points in the park, but those spots in particular are not nearly as bad as they are made to appear in those photos. For example, here's a better shot of what that Toon Town spot really looks like and you can see it's all off to the side (and heavily enforced to stay that way).

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Maybe so, but it's not an exaggeration to say that the over abundance of strollers at Disneyland on busy days is a nuisance.
 

dweezil78

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Maybe so, but it's not an exaggeration to say that the over abundance of strollers at Disneyland on busy days is a nuisance.

That's why we're all smart enough here to avoid those days, ha! And as bad as DL can get, it's nowhere near the crushing waves of strollers I encountered at WDW back in February. Like that was scary bad, to the point where you almost feel trapped and bombarded at times!!
 

Rich T

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Having a small 2.5 year old in a big crowd and wanting a stroller is completely understandable. The parks are more crowded than ever. But when a child is 6 years old, come... ON. Selfish and lazy. And of course there were moms on the facebook page with every excuse in the world... "my child is tall for their age and they're 2" or "my kid plays baseball and is physically fit so what if we use a stroller at disneyland a few days a year (child was 7)."
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dweezil78

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Having a small 2.5 year old in a big crowd and wanting a stroller is completely understandable. The parks are more crowded than ever. But when a child is 6 years old, come... ON. Selfish and lazy. And of course there were moms on the facebook page with every excuse in the world... "my child is tall for their age and they're 2" or "my kid plays baseball and is physically fit so what if we use a stroller at disneyland a few days a year (child was 7)."

About FB, they've grown on me. They might not always know what they're talking about but the construction updates are constant and current and their enthusiasm and excitement is genuine. Yensid 55's updates are the best but you have to wait an entire month. In the photo department, I turn to Westcoaster. Dave from FB reads this forum too. I'm not an AP, despite living in LA, so as Micechat has taken a nosedive in the absence of Monday's Dateline Disneylands (having been replaced by Disney Debbie's iphone 5s photos etc), they are my window into the mind of the AP/local Disneyland culture and consumer. When I go, I barely eat. When the bloggers go, they try out every new donut, ice cream, merchandise item, etc.

The day my kid turned 5 I gave him the boot from the stroller. Unless he's there with his < 1 yr old brother and can hitch a ride on the back of his stroller, he's going to get one heck of a work out on those little legs!

But let me give you a little secret about the strollers... they're as much for the parents as it is the kiddos, if not more. When I make him walk now, I 1) have to move wayyyyy slower because he cannot walk/run as fast as me (Maxpass FTW!!), 2) I no longer have that great little storage space to stash stuff when I'm on rides, and 3) If he gets tired and doesn't want to walk, I'm kind of screwed!
 

SteamboatJoe

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The problem isn't the overabundance of strollers. It's the overabundance of people. And it's going to get much worse.

I'm sorry, I know crowds are an issue but strollers are absolutely a problem. The size and volume is getting out of control and is negatively affecting the overall user experience. Not to mention all the stroller parking is choking off pedestrian routes that are needed for safety and accessibility. Limiting the size and/or number of strollers is completely reasonable. Family friendly does not mean pre-school centric. Adults with older kids or no kids paid lots of money for their vacation too.
 

drizgirl

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I'm sorry, I know crowds are an issue but strollers are absolutely a problem. The size and volume is getting out of control and is negatively affecting the overall user experience. Not to mention all the stroller parking is choking off pedestrian routes that are needed for safety and accessibility. Limiting the size and/or number of strollers is completely reasonable. Family friendly does not equal pre-school centric. Adults with older kids or no kids paid lots of money for their vacation too.
Good luck with that. You can talk about it all you want but it's never going to happen. It's a Disney park. They aren't going to hack off people at the front gate making them return to the resort with their "too large" stroller or grill them about what special need their child has that requires they use a stroller after the age of 5.
 

SteamboatJoe

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Good luck with that. You can talk about it all you want but it's never going to happen. It's a Disney park. They aren't going to hack off people at the front gate making them return to the resort with their "too large" stroller or grill them about what special need their child has that requires they use a stroller after the age of 5.

Other people are kept from entering the parks with stuff they can't have. I have seen it happen. Strollers would be no different. They could tag it, store it for you to pick up when you leave, and provide a regulation size one for you to use. Children with actual special needs would obviously be exempt from such a prohibition.
 

drizgirl

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Other people are kept from entering the parks with stuff they can't have. I have seen it happen. Strollers would be no different. They could tag it, store it for you to pick up when you leave, and provide a regulation size one for you to use. Children with actual special needs would obviously be exempt from such a prohibition.
You keep hoping.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Other people are kept from entering the parks with stuff they can't have. I have seen it happen. Strollers would be no different. They could tag it, store it for you to pick up when you leave, and provide a regulation size one for you to use. Children with actual special needs would obviously be exempt from such a prohibition.

I would like to see someone try to operationalize that...lol
 

SteamboatJoe

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I would like to see someone try to operationalize that...lol

If they are willing to charge parking fees at the resorts in addition to what you are already paying, I don't think this would be totally out the question. I don't like saying that but it is plausible.

The big differences here are obviously the labor costs and the physical storage space that would be needed. Without charging for the stroller rental, they probably would not be able to justify the costs and even that income may not be worth enough. Those are the reasons it probably won't happen.
 

dweezil78

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If they are willing to charge parking fees at the resorts in addition to what you are already paying, I don't think this would be totally out the question. I don't like saying that but it is plausible.

The big differences here are obviously the labor costs and the physical storage space that would be needed. Without charging for the stroller rental, they probably would not be able to justify the costs and even that income may not be worth enough. Those are the reasons it probably won't happen.

Who do you think they're more likely to inconvenience -- the families with kids who are more likely to buy lots of food, toys, clothes, and other merch -- or the adults who pop in (often for just a few hrs) and maybe grab a bite to eat and a drink?
 

SteamboatJoe

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Who do you think they're more likely to inconvenience -- the families with kids who are more likely to buy lots of food, toys, clothes, and other merch -- or the adults who pop in (often for just a few hrs) and maybe grab a bite to eat and a drink?

Good point. DL and WDW differ significantly in this way. Sadly, in this day and age, I am not sure Disney would write off an idea just because it will upset guests.
 
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SteamboatJoe

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Serious question, is there any rule preventing people without kids from bringing a stroller in to push around the stuff they need for the parks and the merch they buy? I wouldn't do that but I could see someone trying it.
 

VJ

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Good point. DL and WDW differ significantly in this way. Sadly, in this day and age, I am not sure Disney would write off an idea just because it will upset guests.
The days of Light Magic where the Guest is in control have long since passed. Disney knows that no matter what they do, it will prove popular. Thus, Chapek's Disneyland. It all boils down to the arrogance of thinking that they, no matter what, cannot lose.
 

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