Dreamfinder Returning??

[JEDIsney]

I have always dreamed of the idea that Disney could honor its past by using archived footage and artifacts to create a museum on Disney property offering video ride-thru's and memorabilia to commemorate the past and to show that Disney cares for the future, but that is just me. I think that you are right when you say that Disney has forgotten us. The Figment campaign only brought back Figment, and I believe it was because Disney was getting negative attention for the whole issue. With the idea of the return of the Dreamfinder, very few are fighting for that. Which is why the ones who do fight have come together on our campaign to try to open their eyes. But I am going to be contacting Judy Estrin to find out more about many things going on at the parks, because she listened and was very helpful the last time we spoke.

Perfectly said. I agree with everything you stated and I wish you luck with contacting Judy Estrin. The idea of a museum like that would be amazing, and I'm sure it's not only you who wishes something like that were possible.

I would personally love if the Dreamfinder came back. I only remember him from my early childhood, and haven't really enjoyed JIYA ever since. I like Eric Idle a lot, don't get me wrong (huge Monty fan), but it's just not the having Figment without the Dreamfinder. Actually, giving the whole JIYA pavilion a rehab would be like a dream come true.

 

[rdour@techminds]

So now I have to ask, has anyone made a virtual ride out of the old Journey Into Imagination? I know someone did it with some old rides at Disneyland, but what exists for extinct WDW attractions?

On this topic, where is the best quality video I can get to show people what the ride was like at its peak?

Ryan

 

[HauntedPirate]

For ride videos from JII, I'd check Disney-Central or the DC website.

 

[wdwishes2005]

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its a button on the top of that page in the forum.

 

[marni1971]

On this topic, where is the best quality video I can get to show people what the ride was like at its peak?

Ryan

Not blowing my own trumpet, but I edited a video of the original attraction with multi camera angles and source audio, and also a tour upstairs.

This one is available at http://geoffreynease.com - it`s free to sign in and download.

I`ve done virtually every WDW attraction (give or take a few I`m working on this year) in the same style - as mentioned above, check out Disney Central torrents or IRC.

 

[wannab@dis]

I have always dreamed of the idea that Disney could honor its past by using archived footage and artifacts to create a museum on Disney property offering video ride-thru's and memorabilia to commemorate the past and to show that Disney cares for the future, but that is just me. I think that you are right when you say that Disney has forgotten us. The Figment campaign only brought back Figment, and I believe it was because Disney was getting negative attention for the whole issue. With the idea of the return of the Dreamfinder, very few are fighting for that. Which is why the ones who do fight have come together on our campaign to try to open their eyes. But I am going to be contacting Judy Estrin to find out more about many things going on at the parks, because she listened and was very helpful the last time we spoke.

*shakes head*
A museum? You're kidding me!

Disney does not need a museum for old tired and past attractions. When changes are made, it's due to the public no longer visiting the attraction in big numbers. You aren't the only person that Disney needs to keep happy, in fact, you're closer to the bottom of the list. You have an affinity for the theme parks already so marketing is not directed primarily at you.

The parks need to keep changing and adjusting so that the general guests (not disneyphiles) will be impressed and will want to come back. If it didn't change, very few would keep coming back and the negative word of mouth would kill the park. The lack of change has almost killed Epcot before... let's not repeat the mistakes of the past.

 

[marni1971]

Lets also hope future changes are better than the current ones too.

 

[wannab@dis]

Lets also hope future changes are better than the current ones too.

I can think of one change that overall has been problematic. But, the jury is still out on whether or not the everyday guest doesn't really like SGE.

Other that that one, it only appears to be the disneyphiles that have been disappointed. So, name some current changes that you think were 'bad' that you also HONESTLY think the general guests had issues with or caused a decrease in attendance.

 

[Empress Room]

Of course, we all never really know what is going on til someone snaps a sneak picture of it, or gets an audio interview on a podcast or something similar.

However, I honestly think there is going to be quite an interesting debate over this whole thing. What about the people who have visited the park since 2001 and have found the attraction to be great as it is. What about the kids who may not have even been old enough to know Dream Finder? They will grow up, like we did, and will love the attraction just as we love the old version. However, Disney does seem to forget about us. The generation that grew up in the 80s and 90's.

Inserting characters now could potentially ruin what is there. The silliness of the new version has grown on me, and I always encourage newbies to go check that attraction out. I later tell them about the old version. I wish I had a DVD quality video that could present the old attraction to compare it. However, younger generations may even see the old version as outdated.

A solution we could all probably live with could be professional video ride throughs published by Disney on collector edition releases. I love what the Extinct Attractions Club has done with many of their presentations. However, I'm willing to bet that some seriously amazing footage does exist for every attraction. With binaural sound and work lighting, some great footage can be made possible. Isn't it a shame they don't just release these videos? Production, what is there to do really? They could make quite the margin off of a good series of this type.

If anything, they should consider a film showcase at the parks with a historical ride through of old attractions as a way of honoring an anniversary. Wouldn't a few theatre quality ride throughs do it for ya? Then the newer generations don't have their fun cut short early, and when it becomes time to update again, they will all feel our pain.

Ryan

Well, we could discuss and argue all day about whether the old version of JIYI or the new one is better (I clearly prefer the original but understand that many guests may be unfamiliar with it and prefer the new - I wonder what attendance is like with the new version...); however, one thing that is clear is that the pavillion is not using its entire square footage, and that, IMHO, is a complete crime.

When the ride was rehabbed, a large portion of the track was mothballed and the Imageworks area upstairs was moved downstairs. We are now faced with a pavillion that is more akin to "Imagination 'Lite.'" Whether and how Dreamfinder is returned, whatever is decided should involve using the entire pavillion again, not just the downstairs. That's pathetic.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Want my opinion? I saw all three versions... By far, the original was the best.. That being said, the new version isn't all that bad... The second version was down right horrible though.... And I agree with the person who said Disney has to keep the general public happy.. And honestly, if Disney does not give you Dreamfinder, will you stop going to Epcot? No you won't.. Disney knows that, so they have to cater to the general public... If they gave us Disney-philes what WE wanted, they would be segregating majority of their guests cause more people to NOT come to the parks.... Disney is great.... Let's take what they give us and enjoy it... And if you don't like something, then don't ride.. 1 less person on an attraction won't sway them to change it... 1,000,000 less rider and they will....

 

[jedimaster1227]

To answer your thought, the new ride and the pavilion overall have a horrible attendence rate, no matter what the cms may say. The ride has never had more than a 5 minute wait since it reopened.

You are so right about the idea of Imagination Lite! The pavilion is only in use in about 2 of its 4 parts. Imageworks upstairs and many old segments of the building that used to house scenes from the original ride are now untouched.

Oh, and just to let you know, Martin's videos are the best! I just bought three videos from the Extinct Attractions Club and the sad thing is, Martin's versions are way better! I have all of them on my Video Ipod, they are AMAZING!

 

[MeTa]

Dreamfinder was the shizzle.:king:

 

[jedimaster1227]

Dreamfinder was the shizzle.:king:

You bet! No doubts there!

 

[MKCP 1985]

To answer your thought, the new ride and the pavilion overall have a horrible attendence rate, no matter what the cms may say. The ride has never had more than a 5 minute wait since it reopened.

You are so right about the idea of Imagination Lite! The pavilion is only in use in about 2 of its 4 parts. Imageworks upstairs and many old segments of the building that used to house scenes from the original ride are now untouched.

Oh, and just to let you know, Martin's videos are the best! I just bought three videos from the Extinct Attractions Club and the sad thing is, Martin's versions are way better! I have all of them on my Video Ipod, they are AMAZING!

Until last month, I hadn't been in the Imagination pavilion in years. The ride in its current state was funny and full of Figment. I was happy to even recognize the original music incorporated into the current incarnation. Upon exiting the ride, I was surprised to find interactive areas very similar to the old imageworks stuff that used to be housed upstairs. Imagination is as good as it ever was, it is just different. The original version, if it existed today, would not likely draw any larger line than the current one does, IMO. I have no complaints with the current design.

 

[Captain Chaos]

To answer your thought, the new ride and the pavilion overall have a horrible attendence rate, no matter what the cms may say. The ride has never had more than a 5 minute wait since it reopened.

The last few years I have gone to Disney, I don't think I even waited 5 minutes.. I walked right on.. And it was a little spooky because it seemed like my friend and I were the only ones on the attraction....

My point to my previous post was simply 1 person, 10 people cannot sway Disney to change the attraction, but 1,000,000 could... and with attendance to this attraction so low, at times non-existant, then Disney should be or could be forced to change it... Then again, maybe they don't see this as an area in desparate need of change right now.. UoE and WoL are first on their list.. Maybe a little addition here and there to Imagination, but nothing spectacular.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Until last month, I hadn't been in the Imagination pavilion in years. The ride in its current state was funny and full of Figment. I was happy to even recognize the original music incorporated into the current incarnation. Upon exiting the ride, I was surprised to find interactive areas very similar to the old imageworks stuff that used to be housed upstairs. Imagination is as good as it ever was, it is just different. The original version, if it existed today, would not likely draw any larger line than the current one does, IMO. I have no complaints with the current design.

Yes, the current version does not hold water to the original... But it isn't all that bad... I can sit through the ride and enjoy it.

 

[wannab@dis]

Exactly. The original version needed updating and now the current version is failing to bring in the crowds. I think the entire pavilion needs to be re-thought and updated.

 

[ms7479a]

In my opinion, I liked the old version but after riding it once, I wasn't really inspired to ride it again. That being said, the new one basically has the same effect on me but I am not going to critisize Disney for changing it, they know what they are doing.

 

[ms7479a]

Disney is great.... Let's take what they give us and enjoy it... And if you don't like something, then don't ride.. 1 less person on an attraction won't sway them to change it...

Thank you, I agree 100%.

 

[Captain Chaos]

Thank you, I agree 100%.

Well thank you for agreeing