Dozens Displaced by Hotel Fire Given Shelter at Walt Disney World

[Goofyernmost]

OOH aren't you clever! Head for a hat rack...Awesome.
Did I say that the fire was intentionally set by CM's? I think not. Perhaps you're the one with comprehension difficulties.

Good come back.. don't quit your day job. I could explain what I said, but, it would just be a waste of time. I hope you had a nice day anyway.

 

[pax_65]

I remember reading a while back that there are parts of some Disney resorts that are shuttered, kept vacant intentionally to drive up demand (and prices) for rooms. I'm curious if this is still true, and if these are the rooms Disney is making available for the victims.

I don't ask to take anything away from Disney... I'm one of the more negative folks here (as I feel Disney has become all about the cash lately) but I think this is a class act to step up and do something nice for the community. It shows leadership and corporate responsibility to the community. They were able to help so they did so - a very good thing.

However I am curious if these are rooms that Disney wasn't going to rent anyway - in which case they aren't losing revenue from the rooms, just the cost of making the rooms available (housekeeping, utilities, etc).

 

[dvitali]

So far I has seen no proof that Disney as A Corporation made the decision to give these families the room, food, tickets. This decision could have been made by the generous Cast Members Thur out Disney giving back to the community some of their low paying dollars to help.
We have a similar situation in my town where we as a union workers raise some money to help several families. Not only our dollars were match dollars per dollars by my company here in town but we also match by our Corporate headquarters out In Minnesota. Less not forget that Disney Cast Members Thur out WDW are the most generous people ever to work with in Orlando.

 

[GoofGoof]

So far I has seen no proof that Disney as A Corporation made the decision to give these families the room, food, tickets. This decision could have been made by the generous Cast Members Thur out Disney giving back to the community some of their low paying dollars to help.
We have a similar situation in my town where we as a union workers raise some money to help several families. Not only our dollars were match dollars per dollars by my company here in town but we also match by our Corporate headquarters out In Minnesota. Less not forget that Disney Cast Members Thur out WDW are the most generous people ever to work with in Orlando.

According to this article Disney donated the rooms. The deal was brokered by a Congressman:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-kissimmee-fire-folo-20161224-story.html

I have no doubt that many cast members also donated generously as well.

 

[flynnibus]

This I agree with. You have to look at it from a practical prospective. Disney is a corporation not a charity. The corporation exists for the benefit of its shareholders. Most corporations have a limited ability to donate to charity. It's not like management has a blank check to just give away money. If you can justify some economic benefit to donating to charity it makes it easier to justify donating more. Both the corporation and the charity benefit. Part of the economic benefit is the good publicity received so when corporations toot their own horns about the good deeds they are doing it benefits the charities as much as the corporation. We all win.

Businesses don't have to show economic gain to get approval... sheesh

It's called community and ethos - despite some claims of business savvy on these forums... that still exists out there

 

[GoofGoof]

Businesses don't have to show economic gain to get approval... sheesh

It's called community and ethos - despite some claims of business savvy on these forums... that still exists out there

I didn't say they had to show economic gain to get approval for any charitable spend. There is always going to be some budget for those types of things. What I was talking about is additional spend above and beyond what's normally budgeted. If a corporation gets some sort of benefit from giving to a charity like positive PR or better community relations there is always a chance to get approval for even more. This is why I think good PR is always a positive thing when a corporation does something good.

 

[flynnibus]

I didn't say they had to show economic gain to get approval for any charitable spend. There is always going to be some budget for those types of things. What I was talking about is additional spend above and beyond what's normally budgeted. If a corporation gets some sort of benefit from giving to a charity like positive PR or better community relations there is always a chance to get approval for even more. This is why I think good PR is always a positive thing when a corporation does something good.

Obviously groups have limits on their ability to spend... but that simply means getting higher approvals.

It's just sad people need to focus on the "what's in it for me" crap. Disney is well well known for the extremes it goes to in charitable actions... and has for decades. Yes companies like to have good community relations so when it's time to scratch my back, or ask for some slack.... but Disney is so far beyond that. It's been part of disney's DNA.... not just manipulation. Some of the replies in this thread should have just been ignored for the trash they are.

 

[GoofGoof]

Obviously groups have limits on their ability to spend... but that simply means getting higher approvals.

It's just sad people need to focus on the "what's in it for me" crap. Disney is well well known for the extremes it goes to in charitable actions... and has for decades. Yes companies like to have good community relations so when it's time to scratch my back, or ask for some slack.... but Disney is so far beyond that. It's been part of disney's DNA.... not just manipulation. Some of the replies in this thread should have just been ignored for the trash they are.

Not my posts. I was complimenting Disney's actions in this case. The comment of mine that you quoted was part of a tangent discussion. Several poster's felt that Disney should do things like this without publicizing them and I was making the argument that it's beneficial for all parties involved to have actions like this publicized.

 

[raven]

Like most people in Orlando, I work in the tourism industry. We have a super annoying employee in my department who always tries to go "above and beyond" for guests but very often neglects his work duties because of it. He's constantly handing out these cards to those guests so he can get recognition as a great employee. He will walk around and openly say "Look what I did for these people! Those guests loved me so much! Everyone loves what I do" etc. It's come down to the point that the ether employees don't even want to be near him anymore as he only seems to be there to get admiration from our superiors.

I believe this is the similar argument going on here and I completely understand that. What you do for others has more meaning if you keep it quiet and in your heart. Announcing to the world with blaring trumpets is just a show and makes you look bad. I know Disney did a good thing for these people and many other people in crisis but they seem to announce it publicly when it's going to gain them more guests and money. In that instance it just looks like greed to some. So please understand that particular side of the argument in some members posts.

 

[mergatroid]

I believe this is the similar argument going on here and I completely understand that. What you do for others has more meaning if you keep it quiet and in your heart. Announcing to the world with blaring trumpets is just a show and makes you look bad. I know Disney did a good thing for these people and many other people in crisis but they seem to announce it publicly when it's going to gain them more guests and money. In that instance it just looks like greed to some. So please understand that particular side of the argument in some members posts.

Completely get that point as do most I'd imagine. However I've googled it and can't find Disney publicising this themselves (apologies if they have), instead it's others reporting on it. Of course people will say "Disney leaked it, they have contacts who they phoned on the sly" etc. I just think it's a nice Christmas story and some seem to be going on about it a bit too much to be just making a none controversial point.

Again it's all about opinions and everyone's entitled to express theirs. Also, yes most of us are aware that often 'charity' by companies can be done for ulterior reasons than just 'kindness'. These things are all debatable but some seem to be trying really hard to make a meal out of the possibility this wasn't done out of 'kindness'. With that I'll leave it as I don't want to go on and on about it either.

 

[SorcererMC]

Not my posts. I was complimenting Disney's actions in this case. The comment of mine that you quoted was part of a tangent discussion. Several poster's felt that Disney should do things like this without publicizing them and I was making the argument that it's beneficial for all parties involved to have actions like this publicized.

Right, when corporate social responsibility (CSR) is recognized and there is an economic benefit (because people want to support companies who engage in it), the result is that companies are encouraged to continue doing it. CSR can backfire if a company is perceived as trying to compensate for its 'sins' so to speak, ie when the donation is not perceived as genuine.

I, for one, am more inclined to support TWDC with my dollars (despite their flaws/ my usual criticisms of management) when I know that they are there to help when and where it counts, and in support of the local community. And I like this story because it goes beyond the standard $ donation, nor was it initiated by them; they rose to the occasion IMO.

 

[jakeman]

Threads like these always say more about the posters than they do about Disney.

 

[Bandini]

Threads like these always say more about the posters than they do about Disney.

Isn't that true for all threads?

 

[jakeman]

Isn't that true for all threads?

You and your ilk spent Christmas day tearing down a good thing because you are so consumed by your anger at the way an entertainment company runs a theme park.

 

[Bandini]

You and your ilk spent Christmas day tearing down a good thing because you are so consumed by your anger at the way an entertainment company runs a theme park.

Wow Jakeman. You clearly demonstrate your anger and bitterness toward anyone who is critical of TWDC.

 

[jakeman]

Wow Jakeman. You clearly demonstrate your anger and bitterness toward anyone who is critical of TWDC.

Right...I'm sure that will be the conclusion drawn after folks read this thread...that I'm the unreasonable one.

I'm out, you're past sad and are into an uncomfortable level of derangement that I don't want to interact with.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Isn't that true for all threads?

No.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Wow Jakeman. You clearly demonstrate your anger and bitterness toward anyone who is critical of TWDC.

Wow Bandini. You imposed your own anger and bitterness onto what Jakeman posted because he didn't even use the "bitter and angry" font or emoji.

 

[Andrew C]

Lol I can think of quite a few things to be critical about. This is far from being one of them.

This is exactly what you should want ALL companies to do. Do good things in the community. Be a part of the community.

Disney has a loud voice. So anything they can do to get the word out about this is a great thing.

 

[GoofGoof]

I believe this is the similar argument going on here and I completely understand that. What you do for others has more meaning if you keep it quiet and in your heart. Announcing to the world with blaring trumpets is just a show and makes you look bad. I know Disney did a good thing for these people and many other people in crisis but they seem to announce it publicly when it's going to gain them more guests and money. In that instance it just looks like greed to some. So please understand that particular side of the argument in some members posts.

I hear what you are saying but I think that applies more to an individual than a corporation. I think there's some parable in the Bible or something about it but I'm not going to get all religious here. IMHO corporations should be publicizing good deeds done. There are plenty of investors who want to invest in companies that do the right thing and help others. By keeping these actions quiet companies would be making it harder for investors. There is also a symbiotic relationship between most corporations and the communities they are located in. Aside from the thousands of people working directly for the mouse in Orlando there are many more people who indirectly support the company. Those people want to know that the company they work for (directly or indirectly) is giving back to the community it relies on.