Dozens Displaced by Hotel Fire Given Shelter at Walt Disney World

[Daveeeeed]

Why are people trying to turn this the wrong way?
Disney's goal is to make money and that's a right they have and it's something as a stockholder I want them to do.
They aren't evil -- they did the right thing clearly and they are definitely one of the better companies. Not to mention the history and the diehard fans like myself give Disney a unique situation and they realize that. They aren't perfect, but compare them to Universal's parent company: Comcast and oh boy.What a wonderful Christmas gift for those families.

 

[GoofGoof]

Saw a story about this on the national news yesterday. I felt sad for the families, and especially the children. Fire in a dwelling is a tragic experience for all involved, but even more upsetting during the holidays.

Once the the families were informed that they would get to spend a few days in Disney, I saw the smiles on the faces of the children. Hope and goodwill are precious gifts to extend to those in need; and in my opinion, they reflect the true meaning of Christmas.

That's great that the story made the national news. The more people that hear the story, the more that will help out.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Crack is so 1980's. To put it into proper perspective, the Disney fans are meth heads.

My bad. Is Crocodile still a thing?

 

[Goofyernmost]

Crack is so 1980's. To put it into proper perspective, the Disney fans are meth heads.

Bob, where have you been. You've been missed? This must be Christmas time!

 

[21stamps]

Well, that would apply to everyone that has ever made a charitable contribution. It's a human thing. For both Humans and Corporations, it is also a tax break. So can it be said that the only reason we ever help anyone else is because it makes us feel good or we get a tax break from it. We can say that, because it is true, but, is that really the motivation. Would Disney, for example have any negative thing happen if they didn't do anything about it? Does most of the world, even with the release of the information (regardless of who released it) even know about it? Would we, if not on the boards know anything about it at all? How much gain would be realized by this in an individual sense? Would everyone just be happier if those victims had to spend their time on the sidewalks because no one said OK, we'll take you in? Would Disney be considered cheap and uncaring for not helping out. If that is the case, how can they be bad people for helping. Their has to be a balance there in order for anyone to react with such vile contempt when they do something nice. Is everyone only going to Disney now because of the large financial contributions that they have made to so many other recent disasters? What contributions? You mean we already forgot those? I guess that's not why we go there is it?

I agree that the motivation does not matter even a stitch, what is important is that someone got help when they needed it, by an organization that can afford to do so and really isn't going to gain much from it except maybe that someone might say it was nice of them to do so. This idea that the PR will have people flocking to the doors is utterly ridiculous.

Exactly. Wells Fargo is one of the most "generous" companies in the US. I'm pretty sure they are not so giving just to impress people. Regardless of if you are a big business or an individual, philanthropy is about giving. Yes, everyone still takes the tax deduction and any positive recognition that comes from it. Doesn't take away from the good.

To the Negativity Crew--Just because you have "issues" with something/someone you should not let it cloud your vision completely.
I personally disagree with George Soros on so many levels..but I can appreciate and recognize the good that he does for others. There is no harm in recognizing good where it exists, even when you aren't a fan of other actions by a person/business. There's a lot of harm in becoming so cynical that you can not even recognize it anymore.

 

[wm49rs]

Exactly. Wells Fargo is one of the most "generous" companies in the US. I'm pretty sure they are not so giving just to impress people. Regardless of if you are a big business or an individual, philanthropy is about giving. Yes, everyone still takes the tax deduction and any positive recognition that comes from it. Doesn't take away from the good.

To the Negativity Crew--Just because you have "issues" with something/someone you should not let it cloud your vision completely.
I personally disagree with George Soros on so many levels..but I can appreciate and recognize the good that he does for others. There is no harm in recognizing good where it exists, even when you aren't a fan of other actions by a person/business. There's a lot of harm in becoming so cynical that you can not even recognize it anymore.

Not really sure Wells Fargo should be at the top of your list of examples....

And TWDC has always been generous. But, they are a business and of course will take any good publicity they can....

 

[wdisney9000]

It speaks far more about the emotional state of those who continue to label anybody who recognizes the fact that Disney had other motivators (possibly larger) than a strictly humanitarian effort as "perpetually angry" or mad at Disney.

I saw a crack head analogy but I dont understand it. I guess it takes a crack head to understand that type of mentality, or type out something as incoherent as the post itself.

 

[21stamps]

Not really sure Wells Fargo should be at the top of your list of examples....

And TWDC has always been generous. But, they are a business and of course will take any good publicity they can....

My point is- publicity is a side effect of that generosity. It does not mean that publicity was the reason for the generosity in the first place.

 

[FigmentForver96]

Are we all that selfish that we can even see the REAL matter at hand? This is the same thing with the incident with the toddler this past summer. There are people who have lost their homes. They barely had anything and now they have practically nothing on Christmas. A holiday that is meant to be filled with joy and peace. No matter WHY Disney did it, they did it and it was a good thing. I don't give a damn what attention it gave because the people who needed attention the most this Christmas got it. That is a good thing. People around here need to get off their pedestal for just one moment and look at the situation, and this coming from someone who has no problem criticizing the company. Have some compassion, or just go the heck away.

 

[wm49rs]

My point is- publicity is a side effect of that generosity. It does not mean that publicity was the reason for the generosity in the first place.

And where did I say it was? Although, Wells Fargo can use all the good publicity it can get these days....

 

[21stamps]

And where did I say it was?

What? The comment that I posted (the one which you originally quoted) was a general comment to the thread. My point was exactly what I said it was. Holy Cow people are short fused, defensive, and downright aggressive way too often here.
This is a Disney site..where all of this misery and nasty behavior comes from is beyond me.

 

[wm49rs]

What? The comment that I posted (the one which you originally quoted) was a general comment to the thread. My point was exactly what I said it was. Holy Cow people are short fused, defensive, and downright aggressive way too often here.
This is a Disney site..where all of this misery and nasty behavior comes from is beyond me.

Where was I being nasty? I simply asked a question based upon your reply. If that bothers you, then the issue is yours. Unless you're just prone to playing the victim card.

 

[GoofGoof]

It speaks far more about the emotional state of those who continue to label anybody who recognizes the fact that Disney had other motivators (possibly larger) than a strictly humanitarian effort as "perpetually angry" or mad at Disney.

Who really cares about the motivators? People in need got a little something to hopefully add some Christmas joy in a bad time.

Some of the posts here did seem pretty angry and/or mad to me too.

 

[Kman101]

I like how it's trying to be turned around on those of us who spoke up to quiet the nasty cyncism. This thread should really be locked. It's just going to be an endless back and forth because someone cant let it go.

 

[Kman101]

It speaks far more about the emotional state of those who continue to label anybody who recognizes the fact that Disney had other motivators (possibly larger) than a strictly humanitarian effort as "perpetually angry" or mad at Disney.

I saw a crack head analogy but I dont understand it. I guess it takes a crack head to understand that type of mentality, or type out something as incoherent as the post itself.

You've said this. Repeatedly.

 

[21stamps]

Where was I being nasty? I simply asked a question based upon your reply. If that bothers you, then the issue is yours. Unless you're just prone to playing the victim card.

I have no idea what your "victim card" comment was supposed to imply...and I don't care. I noticed that you edited the comment that I quoted so I just wanted to let you in on a little FYI- Wells Fargo has had their philanthropy programs in place well before the recent scandal. Again, there is not always an ulterior motive for doing a good deed.

 

[wm49rs]

I have no idea what your "victim card" comment was supposed to imply...and I don't care. I noticed that you edited the comment that I quoted so I just wanted to let you in on a little FYI- Wells Fargo has had their philanthropy programs in place well before the recent scandal. Again, there is not always an ulterior motive for doing a good deed.

I didn't edit anything, but that's a lovely straw man. And I'm still certain Wells Fargo will take all the good publicity they can right now.

 

[Kman101]

There's no point arguing. They clearly just want to hear "Disney is evil. Shame on them for doing something nice." Of all the things to get on the company for, some are choosing this and I just don't understand why?

 

[21stamps]

There's no point arguing. They clearly just want to hear "Disney is evil. Shame on them for doing something nice." Of all the things to get on the company for, some are choosing this and I just don't understand why?

I just realized that.
I'm giving up trying to rationalize, or even attempting to understand, or even having a conversation. You can't rationalize with people who refuse to look any way but to their own skewed perception.

 

[wdisney9000]

Some of the posts here did seem pretty angry and/or mad to me too.

It would only be construed as anger to a person (not saying you), who cant, wont or does not care about viewing Disneys intentions as anything but purely humanitarian.

Look no further than the attitude of those who say "lock this thread"! Why would they want it locked when they could simply just not click on the thread? Because it makes them feel like they have control of the issue and if it gets locked they take it as a victory. There are no winners and losers. its a discussion, but since someone has a different opinion than them and they would rather see the whole discussion get locked instead of allowing anybody to else to continue. It bothers them soooooo deeply that they resort the child like behavior of " Im taking my football home and now nobody can play!!!!".