Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It’s certainly got the attention of the media outside of the US

Since you’re overseas...I’ll be you’re ambassador:

There’s a name we have stateside for anyone not acknowledging that Florida is completely failing:
Wrong.

Now back to normal programming

 

[DisneyOutsider]

Exactly. I've been hearing 2023. Not sure if it means 'done by then' or 'going down' then. But it will likely be a while.

Disney needs to crack down on eBay resellers but they won't because they have their money so what do they care?

It's obnoxious though to see bags and bags and bags of merch. It's blatantly obvious what they're doing.

Yeah, like I really get the outrage and the optics of it.. but I really can't blame Disney for accepting every last dollar that they're being offered right now. It's not like they're moving park tickets right now

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Ladies and gentlemen...

This is a math equation:

Low paid employees + eBay = X

Ummm.. I think X equals S...loads?

 

[Kman101]

Yeah, like I really get the outrage and the optics of it.. but I really can't blame Disney for accepting every last dollar that they're being offered right now. It's not like they're moving park tickets right now

Exactly

And even when Disney limits merch, they get around it. Not saying they're limiting anything but they should, but then they wouldn't enforce it, so ... here we are.

eBayer's are just doing what Disney lets them do

Didn't DisneyLAND crack down on this a bit a few years ago? WDW should do the same but they want the $$$

 

[HauntedPirate]

Yeah, like I really get the outrage and the optics of it.. but I really can't blame Disney for accepting every last dollar that they're being offered right now. It's not like they're moving park tickets right now

If only there was a way Disney could offer a deal on tickets and resort stays... Too bad they can't see the forest for the trees.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Exactly

And even when Disney limits merch, they get around it. Not saying they're limiting anything but they should, but then they wouldn't enforce it, so ... here we are.

eBayer's are just doing what Disney lets them do

Didn't DisneyLAND crack down on this a bit a few years ago? WDW should do the same but they want the $$$

That they did. But why would TDO do the same?

 

[DisneyOutsider]

Exactly

And even when Disney limits merch, they get around it. Not saying they're limiting anything but they should, but then they wouldn't enforce it, so ... here we are.

eBayer's are just doing what Disney lets them do

Didn't DisneyLAND crack down on this a bit a few years ago? WDW should do the same but they want the $$$

I do have to at least give them credit for halting the sale of limited edition merch. It will be interesting to see how long they can hold off on those.. although some of them are just being moved to the website instead where bots snatch them up faster than Karen can click the mouse on her desktop.

 

[Kman101]

I do have to at least give them credit for halting the sale of limited edition merch. It will be interesting to see how long they can hold off on those.. although some of them are just being moved to the website instead where bots snatch them up faster than Karen can click the mouse on her desktop.

lmao on the last sentence!!!

Yep. Online is a mess too because of the bots. No one stands a chance. But they keep letting it happen. It's on Disney at this point, lol.

 

[DCBaker]

 

[Miss Bella]

They need to lower their expectations for resort guests. Demand isn't there, it's not going to be there for a while. If they want to fill the parks as much as they can within their capacity limits they just need to shift more AP reservations.

40% off a standard room at the Poly still comes in at 340 a night plus tax and that’s value season. It not like there giving the rooms away. I remember when I paid 375.00 for club level at the Poly in May 2011.

 

[Kamikaze]

But we do know, this is how the 120 reported deaths today breakdown of when they actually died. All data from the DOH website and the line data

April - 1 death age 32
May - 3 deaths avg age 79
June 1-10 - 12 deaths avg age 75
June 11-20 - 17 deaths avg age 76
June 20-30 - 46 deaths avg age 78
July 1-8 - 31 deaths avg age 71

10 deaths unidentified

And yes the July 1-8 numbers will go up and be added to counts later this week and next week. Hopefully not by much by that is unknown. There are deaths that happen today that won't be counted for weeks, then again hopefully that will go down with better treatments and younger age but to early to tell for sure.

Plus they've been cooking the books for months.

 

[Kamikaze]

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Its true that chances of outdoor transmission in open areas are very low. Indoor queues and food service however...

 

[mickeymiss]

Its true that chances of outdoor transmission in open areas are very low. Indoor queues and food service however...

That's good news to hear that they were searching for outbreaks and failed to find any connection.

 

[havoc315]

But we do know, this is how the 120 reported deaths today breakdown of when they actually died. All data from the DOH website and the line data

April - 1 death age 32
May - 3 deaths avg age 79
June 1-10 - 12 deaths avg age 75
June 11-20 - 17 deaths avg age 76
June 20-30 - 46 deaths avg age 78
July 1-8 - 31 deaths avg age 71

10 deaths unidentified

And yes the July 1-8 numbers will go up and be added to counts later this week and next week. Hopefully not by much by that is unknown. There are deaths that happen today that won't be counted for weeks, then again hopefully that will go down with better treatments and younger age but to early to tell for sure.

thank you, that’s useful. And confirms what I’ve been saying — we are just starting to see the death effect of the mid-June increase in infections.

This could be a very scary ride.

 

[legwand77]

True, but I also imagine there are a significant amount of people who think 120 people actually died in the last 24 hours. That is why day to day is pointless with all the data anomalies and catching up. For the past few months the actual deaths data per day has been lower than what has been reported on that date.

 

[disneygeek90]

Its true that chances of outdoor transmission in open areas are very low. Indoor queues and food service however...

Which is why social distancing and masks are throughout the queues.

 

[legwand77]

To further show the discrepancy from reported daily deaths to actual CDC deaths for Florida. The data will only change for the last two weeks, but after that the deaths are not adjusted that much to make a difference. The dotted line will raise a bit to match slope trend. The trend on this chart mirrors the rest of the world. Only exception is in CA, TX and AZ which happen to share a border with Mexico who is going through their peak currently.

 

[GoofGoof]

True, but I also imagine there are a significant amount of people who think 120 people actually died in the last 24 hours. That is why day to day is pointless with all the data anomalies and catching up. For the past few months the actual deaths data per day has been lower than what has been reported on that date.

We don’t know how many people died in the last 24 hours and won’t know for a few weeks apparently. It could be more than 120.

Do we know that the deaths were lower than what was reported each day? We know that some of what was reported each day was on a lag, but without going back to every day and assigning the reported deaths to the actual dates the people died we can’t really say whether what got reported is higher or lower than actual deaths. If the number of actual deaths is increasing than in theory the amount reported each day would be lower than the real deaths because of the lag. If the number of deaths is decreasing than the opposite would be true.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

We don’t know how many people died in the last 24 hours and won’t know for a few weeks apparently. It could be more than 120.

Do we know that the deaths were lower than what was reported each day? We know that some of what was reported each day was on a lag, but without going back to every day and assigning the reported deaths to the actual dates the people died we can’t really say whether what got reported is higher or lower than actual deaths. If the number of actual deaths is increasing than in theory the amount reported each day would be lower than the real deaths because of the lag. If the number of deaths is decreasing than the opposite would be true.

Why does this have to be a guessing game? Why don’t the people in charge give the information out so families that are thinking of going to WDW can make an informed decision? It just has the feel of hiding things.

 

[mickeymiss]

We don’t know how many people died in the last 24 hours and won’t know for a few weeks apparently. It could be more than 120.

Do we know that the deaths were lower than what was reported each day? We know that some of what was reported each day was on a lag, but without going back to every day and assigning the reported deaths to the actual dates the people died we can’t really say whether what got reported is higher or lower than actual deaths. If the number of actual deaths is increasing than in theory the amount reported each day would be lower than the real deaths because of the lag. If the number of deaths is decreasing than the opposite would be true.

Wasn't a major reported decline in average age directly correlated with the rise in cases? Won't that help keep deaths associated with that increase down?