Do you think that Disney world will reclose its gates due to the rising number of COVID cases in Florida and around the country?

[oceanbreeze77]

Hospitals are not full in Orange County. I watched the Orange County press conference today and Dr. Pino spoke about hospital capacity.

I’m confused as well. In the press conference they said they had ~500 available. And that was at 6pm

5 Central Florida hospitals hit ICU capacity, but region still has beds available for any COVID-19 surge

Intensive care units at several hospitals in Central Florida were at full capacity on Monday, as the state reported more than 6,000 new cases of coronavirus and 47 deaths. Orlando Health ORMC, Orla…

www.orlandosentinel.com

 

[disneygeek90]

5 Central Florida hospitals hit ICU capacity, but region still has beds available for any COVID-19 surge

Intensive care units at several hospitals in Central Florida were at full capacity on Monday, as the state reported more than 6,000 new cases of coronavirus and 47 deaths. Orlando Health ORMC, Orla…

www.orlandosentinel.com

 

[oceanbreeze77]

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the gist of it is that yes, hospitalizations are climbing and ICU's in Orange County are starting to fill up with 5 already at capacity, but Orange County still has room to shift people around and is not yet entering a surge phase yet.
This is just regarding the Orange County ICUs. But the tweet I posted was about multiple counties.

 

[Rider]

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Intensive care units at several hospitals in Central Florida were at full capacity on Monday, as the state reported more than 6,000 new cases of coronavirus and 47 deaths.
Orlando Health ORMC, Orlando Health Dr. P. Phillips Hospital, AdventHealth Kissimmee, AdventHealth Winter Park and Poinciana Medical Center had no ICU capacity, according to data from the Agency for Health Care Administration, which provides only a snapshot in time.
But the picture is more promising when all available ICU beds are averaged for each county: Orange County had 17% overall ICU bed availability, Lake had 17%, Osceola had 12% and Seminole had 10%.
“I know we always have a concern about beds and what is available in the county for our residents,” said Dr. Raul Pino, health officer at the Florida Department of Health in Orange County, during a press briefing on Monday. “Although we have seen an increase in the number of hospitalizations, the systems are reporting that they are not concerned about the need for surge yet as a system. It could be that a hospital has more cases than another and things have to reshuffled on readjust[ed].”
Map: With coronavirus cases rising in Florida, how much capacity do hospitals currently have?
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Map: With coronavirus cases rising in Florida, how much capacity do hospitals currently have?
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He said as of Monday morning, Orange County hospitals had 511 beds available, with 499 ventilators, 58 ICU beds for adults and 46 ICU beds for children.
In Orange County, 357 people were hospitalized for COVID-19 with 72 in intensive care, according to the Florida Department of Health in Orange County. On June 28, there were 164 hospitalizations with 35 in the ICU.
In Seminole County, 137 patients are being treated in the hospital for COVID-19, up from 110 patients on Thursday. Lake and Osceola county have not released any hospitalization data.
The region’s only sources of COVID-19 hospitalization data come from press conferences by Orange County officials and a dashboard by Seminole County.
The state announced last week that it was going to release COVID-19 hospitalization data, but it has yet to to do so. It only reports historical data on hospitalizations.
When asked about making Orange County hospitalization data public, Mayor Jerry Demings said that the hospitals are required to report the data to the Department of Health.
“They do share the data with me,” Demings said. “Verbally we have conversations several times a week about it as we endeavor to make decisions on behalf of the residents. I go to Dr. Pino and he shares with me what he sees in his dashboard on a daily basis.”
Hospitals have attributed some of the reduced capacity to their return to normal operations, including restarting elective procedures that were put on hold for several weeks. Central Florida hospitals say they have enough capacity even though the COVID-19 hospitalization numbers have been steadily increasing.

 

[milordsloth]

5 Central Florida hospitals hit ICU capacity, but region still has beds available for any COVID-19 surge

Intensive care units at several hospitals in Central Florida were at full capacity on Monday, as the state reported more than 6,000 new cases of coronavirus and 47 deaths. Orlando Health ORMC, Orla…

www.orlandosentinel.com

From the article:

"But the picture is more promising when all available ICU beds are averaged for each county: Orange County had 17% overall ICU bed availability, Lake had 17%, Osceola had 12% and Seminole had 10%."

And “Although we have seen an increase in the number of hospitalizations, the systems are reporting that they are not concerned about the need for surge yet as a system."

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Here is an article on Orlando Health.

Orlando Health issues clarification regarding bed capacity | West Orange Times & Observer

The hospital bed count published daily by the Agency for Health Care Administration doesn't reflect Orlando Health's total bed capacity, a company spokeswoman said.

www.orangeobserver.com

This article is dated July 3, the other one is today

 

[Jrb1979]

It details why there is misinformation on being near capacity.

Either way numbers are rising. I just have to shake my head. Its sad to see so many have reasons for numbers going up.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

It details why there is misinformation on being near capacity.

Right, but this article is talking about Orlando as a whole. The article I posted is just about 5 ICUs being full, but the article I posted also states that there is still capacity at other hospitals in Orange County and they are not YET at the point of surge capacity. SO the overall information does match, but now there are 5 hospitals with ICUs at capacity.

*also your article isn't talking about misinformation, its just clarifying confusing data.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

List of full ICUs:

44 Florida hospitals at ICU capacity

The following hospitals had 0 percent adult bed availability in their intensive care units as of July 6, according to data from the Florida Agency for Healthcare Administration.

www.beckershospitalreview.com

 

[disneygeek90]

Either way numbers are rising. I just have to shake my head. Its sad to see so many have reasons for numbers going up.

Some of us actually live here. Reading doom and gloom constantly is mentally exhausting. I can’t change how others choose to act but I have to have faith that I’m doing what I can that’s not turning my entire life off.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Do you even live in Florida? I live in Orange County and it is frustrating to see the misinformation on what’s going on here.

No I dont, but I've been tracking Covid since its first public emergence in December

*I have a degree in international relations so this is the nerd in me LOL

 

[Jrb1979]

Some of us actually live here. Reading doom and gloom constantly is mentally exhausting. I can’t change how others choose to act but I have to have faith that I’m doing what I can that’s not turning my entire life off.

I'm sorry you have to live through what's going on. I know it's mentally exhausting. I have been through it where I live when this started. I have to had to work with the public through this. I pray for you down there as I fear it will get worse once the tourists come to town to visit.

 

[deathcab718]

In Houston it feels like a silent Harvey all over again in a way...... Mental Health affected without a doubt. Not going political but experimental trials have been halted at MD Anderson. One of the godsends of the nation in Cancer research.... Sadly my mother may be affected by this... It's a crazy world right now. All I can do is hope... And continue packing plastic (Until my 401k is drained... Charge Cards).

However.... It will get better. I'm waiting for a testing appointment currently and have hardly left the house. Misinformation on requirements at sites etc. and after sitting 3 hours in my car yesterday... yah..

I mean it could be worse... yet as a millennial.... Be cautious ya'll.

Summary. Yeah, I think they should delay without a doubt. Or phase more. There will be a great big beautiful tomorrow where we can visit again. Try and think of that each and every (heat wave) sun shining day .

 

[Lilofan]

I have two bank managers in my family. During the most intense part of the shutdown the lobbies were closed except by appointment. Legally banks cannot close.

That's incorrect. Bank of America locations where my family resides are closed, no appt included. As an example Central Florida just closed 50 B of A locations. Some banks are drive thru/ appt only, other banks are open, many banks have adjusted hours of operations.

 

[DisneyCane]

That there is.

Please don't quote me and edit what I wrote.

 

[DisneyCane]

No, indoor restaurants are not safe. People talking at high volumes without masks inside. Outdoor dining should be permitted.

Them why was there no spike associated with opening indoor dining at 50% with distancing between tables? The people talking to each other loudly would be together if they were eating at somebody's house. The server taking the order is wearing a mask (which according to a lot of posters stops them from spreading it to customers) and the people giving the order are lower down. Droplets from talking don't rise a few feet to the server.

 

[DisneyCane]

That is 100% incorrect. There are countless studies on people eating inside and infecting parties on the complete opposite side of the room. Masks off indoors is wildly unsafe. Period. Distance is almost irrelevant.

There was no spike in cases associated in time with opening dining rooms in Florida. A couple of "studies" in China or wherever that had an AC vent blowing high speed air across somebody who was infected does not conclude that indoor dining is unsafe.

They aren't "studies" either. They are observations. With the size of this outbreak, it can't even be proven that the people got infected in the restaurant. Even assuming they did, when was the last time you were in a restaurant with strong air flow horizontally in the USA?

Every modern restaurant HVAC system I've seen is output vents on the ceiling that blow outwards and down with plenum return. The upwards flow doesn't' seem strong enough in any one place to suck heavy droplets upwards.

 

[Disney4family]

Schools I think are more problematic, but with proper contact tracing could be safely managed. My middle-school nephew here in Orange County already was talking about how they probably wouldn't let them change classes, staying with one teacher to try to cut down individual connections. Keep kids in one class and if you have an issue pop up in that classroom, at least you can isolate the single class and not necessarily have to close down the whole school.

That may work in an elementary school where "specials" teachers (art, music, etc.) can go to each classroom. Phys ed could be a problem since most phys ed classes are two "regular" classes combined for one teacher even at the elem level.
I can't see it work in a secondary school. Middle school and high school students take specialized classes that require specialized equipment and materials that cannot be transported. It would be interesting to see teachers transport the entire earth science lab or AP chem lab from classroom to classroom.
Also, a lot of classes are combined grades. At the high school level, AP classes could have 10th, 11th and 12th graders. It would be impossible to have special "wings" of just one grade level.
How do we handle chorus or band with 200 kids? My son's band director said that due to studies of instruments, air and disease spreading, he can only have practice outside. It'll be interesting to see them rehearse for the winter concert outside in the snow.
My admin has no info for us with regards to the start of school. The only thing we've been told is that they've decided to change the online platform we could use (so kids won't even know what to do to try to learn if we're still remote). Smart, huh?

 

[durangojim]

I haven’t been to an ATM or a bank since early March either. I actually realized I have a decent size pile of cash I’ve accumulated during this pandemic because my kids had birthday and Christmas money they have been using for video games and other online purchases (Amazon) and I’ve been charging that stuff on my CC and taking the cash from them. Even take out food we have mostly been using the CC and paying online or over the phone. It’s one of those weird dynamics of this “new norm“ for me.

That's funny, the same goes for us too. The kids get cash for holidays and then ask if they can give it to us and we'll let them buy things online. It becomes our tip money for vacations. lol

 

[mickeymiss]

We went to Myrtle Beach 10 years ago. North end was lovely, South end was a terrible experience for us. Everyone was blowing smoke in our faces and personal space was a big issue. Talk about a hotbed for covid if I ever saw one. We couldn't get away from people even when we tried.