"Do not disturb" signs being removed from resort rooms

[I am Timmy]

That is just CMs doing their own thing. It is totally against policy. One of my pet peeves is checking into a hotel and there is no DND sign in the room. I actually carry one with me now.

I'm going to do that! I thought it was strange we didn't have one. My kids were jumpy after that, little noises made them think someone was coming in the door. I started flipping the in room lock, but they were still like that for a few days.

 

[Bullseye1967]

Will maids be going through some special forces training for this very scenario?

A person who sees an unattended bag at and airport or mall and reports it has no "special forces training". They are just the first eyes on the problem, which brings qualified people to deal with the issue quicker.

 

[I am Timmy]

A person who sees an unattended bag at and airport or mall and reports it has no "special forces training". They are just the first eyes on the problem, which brings qualified people to deal with the issue quicker.

I meant if they actually walked into a room and the person was there - with all the guns. If that is the reason Disney wants to check rooms every day, and maids are the first line of defense, sounds a bit dangerous for the maids.

 

[Bullseye1967]

I was at the Hilton Palace at DS this month and they didn't have that mechanical doorstop. The had a bolt, but I'm sure housekeeping knows how to undo the bolt in case of emergencies.

Most hotels have an "E" key as in emergency that will defeat a deadbolt. Normal staff do not have access to this, just top management.

 

[nickys]

Hand in hand with this is the removal of the Do not Disturb signs at certain resorts, replaced with Room Occupied signs.

It also seems that you will be able to tell the front desk what time is convenient to you for them to come into the room, so nap times and late risers can notify them of that.

That of course assumes that they will check the notes before coming in. Which is contradicted by reports of them entering immediately after knocking, and continuing into the room even when, for example, a mother was bathing her two young girls and a male CM continued to walk towards the bathroom. Or indeed entering and finding people undressed. I expect there will be stories like this all over the press fairly soon. Which may, or may not, lead to some kind of change of the policy.

Ultimately it comes down to CMs following the policy though, so people need to be reporting where they don't. And use the deadbolts when you're in the room.

 

[Bullseye1967]

I meant if they actually walked into a room and the person was there - with all the guns. If that is the reason Disney wants to check rooms every day, and maids are the first line of defense, sounds a bit dangerous for the maids.

Yes but everyone assumes the is a guy behind the door with a machine gun. The Vegas shooting showed the gunman spent a lot of time out of his room in the casino gambling or elsewhere. The time stamps show he was only in the room about 8 hrs a day other than the day he attacked. If the maid gets shot, or a manager, or security guard, that is awful, but a much better out come than hundreds shot.

 

[Bullseye1967]

Hand in hand with this is the removal of the Do not Disturb signs at certain resorts, replaced with Room Occupied signs.

It also seems that you will be able to tell the front desk what time is convenient to you for them to come into the room, so nap times and late risers can notify them of that.

That of course assumes that they will check the notes before coming in. Which is contradicted by reports of them entering immediately after knocking, and continuing into the room even when, for example, a mother was bathing her two young girls and a male CM continued to walk towards the bathroom. Or indeed entering and finding people undressed. I expect there will be stories like this all over the press fairly soon. Which may, or may not, lead to some kind of change of the policy.

Ultimately it comes down to CMs following the policy though, so people need to be reporting where they don't. And use the deadbolts when you're in the room.

Correct like any other hotel, there are good and bad employees. If policy is followed there will be no issues. If your kids are napping call the front desk and tell them. I do know for a fact that mousekeeping can not open a dead bolt but avoid the knock also.

 

[RustySpork]

We got back from a two week trip last night. Stayed in a family suite at All Star Music. We decided to forgo housekeeping, two days later a maid knocked, didn't wait for a response, and just walked in to give us towels. When she saw us, she said, "oh, sorry". We went to the front desk to clarify what it means to forgo housekeeping. We were told they are under no circumstances supposed to enter the room. Even if you call for more towels, etc. they are supposed to leave them outside (we hadn't called, so it was strange.) We were told it wouldn't happen again. Three days later, a maid WALKED IN without knocking, and caught one son in his underwear and the other naked in a towel. She just said sorry, will clean the room later. So, went back to the front desk. This time they got the manager, she was mortified (as were my sons), and said it wouldn't happen again. I told her this was already the second time, and she was trying to clean our room. She apologized profusely and gave us a $200 credit. Cool. The next day, we came back to our room around 3 pm - our room had been cleaned. I could not keep these people out! Went back to the front desk, the young lady suggested putting a do not disturb sign out for the rest of the trip. We didn't have one in our room - she had to go track one down. Turns out that did the trick. The sign is all.

Make sure you file a formal complaint with guest services about this, even if they did give you a credit at the front desk.

 

[Incomudro]

Yeah but look what happened in Vegas. The guy killed a security guard and was still able to kill all of those people. If someone(security, housekeeping, management, etc) walks into a room with a guy and his guns, do you think he would let them leave alive to call the police? Those people don't go there to go to the parks and then shoot afterwards. They have 1 purpose, that's it. This is another of the "security" measures that makes it look like they are doing something. Can't wait for them to go through all of our bags at check in to make sure we are not bringing guns with us. I would actually prefer they get it done with so I don't have to be bothered with random room checks throughout my vacation.

Unless the Vegas -no words I have to describe this guy are family friendly - unpacked and set up his arsenal the day he used it, which I doubt.
Housekeeping's access to his room would likely have shown weapons and ammo out in various locations.
Possibly days before the shootings.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Unless the Vegas -no words I have to describe this guy are family friendly - unpacked and set up his arsenal the day he used it, which I doubt.
Housekeeping's access to his room would likely have shown weapons and ammo out in various locations.
Possibly days before the shootings.

Yes, but advertising a change in policy just means such items can be kept in a locked suitcase. Attacks that are researched and planned are just that, researched and planned.

 

[RustySpork]

Yes, but advertising a change in policy just means such items can be kept in a locked suitcase. Attacks that are researched and planned are just that, researched and planned.

I'll just leave this in the trunk until I need it.

 

[flynnibus]

The fact that DVC members will now get their trash removed every day starting in 2018 does show they will be entering rooms.

But having a standard of having housekeeping doesn't necessarily mean they will also do a "mandatory" entering on that cycle. Without the housekeeping loop (like now)... they have no baseline of expecting to be in rooms. So having daily housekeeper is step one in establishing a baseline of being in the room. They can still pass over rooms on that cycle if occupied. Then use a secondary cycle to enter occupied rooms with different staff if necessary based on their criteria.

my guess is they will knock all the time... and if people turn them away the room goes onto a secondary list. And Disney can decide how to handle that secondary list with different staff or policies as needed.

 

[RustySpork]

But having a standard of having housekeeping doesn't necessarily mean they will also do a "mandatory" entering on that cycle. Without the housekeeping loop (like now)... they have no baseline of expecting to be in rooms. So having daily housekeeper is step one in establishing a baseline of being in the room. They can still pass over rooms on that cycle if occupied. Then use a secondary cycle to enter occupied rooms with different staff if necessary based on their criteria.

my guess is they will knock all the time... and if people turn them away the room goes onto a secondary list. And Disney can decide how to handle that secondary list with different staff or policies as needed.

I think I'm just going to start throwing my trash in the hallway so there's no need for them to come in and empty it.

 

[jaklgreen]

Yes, but advertising a change in policy just means such items can be kept in a locked suitcase. Attacks that are researched and planned are just that, researched and planned.

Yes, this is my point. The crazy people are not stupid. If they know there is a chance for hotel staff to come in at any time, they are not going to be leaving that stuff lying around. So unless the someone is going to go through people's stuff, this will unlikely prevent anything. We are giving up a lot of personal freedoms in the name of "safety".

 

[flynnibus]

Yes, this is my point. The crazy people are not stupid. If they know there is a chance for hotel staff to come in at any time, they are not going to be leaving that stuff lying around. So unless the someone is going to go through people's stuff, this will unlikely prevent anything. We are giving up a lot of personal freedoms in the name of "safety".

You just said how it will impact and change their behavior - hence it does do something.

The idea that a change must prevent all outcomes to be useful is fallacy. "Cops can't be everywhere at the same time... they can't stop everyone... so speed limits don't do anything". - fallacies.

 

[Lirael]

Nothing says "relaxing vacation" like needing to remember to constantly not just close but also bolt my door and calling guest services any and every time I or a family member would like to have a nap or quiet time

 

[jaklgreen]

You just said how it will impact and change their behavior - hence it does do something.

The idea that a change must prevent all outcomes to be useful is fallacy. "Cops can't be everywhere at the same time... they can't stop everyone... so speed limits don't do anything". - fallacies.

If only that would stop all of the nut jobs.

 

[larryz]

The fact that DVC members will now get their trash removed every day starting in 2018 does show they will be entering rooms.

And I imagine it will help with the bug problems, too...

 

[larryz]

For those who want to use it...

 

[Lirael]

One situation just dawned on me: people are saying "just bolt it" but what about when you're in the bathroom or sleeping and the rest of your party are outside? You can't bolt the room then, so you'll have to suffer through a random stranger walking in on you?

And what about those with hearing disabilities?

Honestly, this measure is useless. Not only will it not stop anyone intent on harming people, but nor will it stop people from sueing disney if anything were to happen. If anything, this measure will increase complaints and maybe even lawsuits against employees. I mean, if a guest claims the employee came in without knocking, or after being told not to, disney won't be able to refute them. And then when people start claiming the employee "looked at them/their child in a wrong way"...

I can't imagine this working out for long