Disney's Reaction to Harry Potter Details?

[devoy1701]

What is a D? What is an E? (Yes, I know all about the old ticketing system... blah, blah, blah) But this confuses me. What constitutes a certain letter?

Is it the thrill of the ride, how much money they spend on it, etc.

I'm so confused...

nowadays its pretty much based on popularity and opinion. Rides have changed letters from time to time as well. IMO i think its a flawed rating system nowadays.

 

[Figment632]

Little Mermaid is NOT a D ticket. It is pretty clearly categorized as an E up to the same level as Haunted Mansion. FLE is going to be a huge draw for Magic Kingdom, mostly because it's the first time in it's history that such a huge new area is added. The princess meet and greets as well as the Be Our Guest restaurant will be huge draws for the area but Little Mermaid is the pinnacle.

Still, do I think it will outdo Harry Potter? No, but it doesn't have to. All Disney has to do is add anything new and people will come, no matter what it is. Now that standard of quality may be a bit higher once people see how incredible Harry Potter is, but still, people will come to WDW no matter what, but adding new stuff is just another reason to come.

One thing I will give to Universal is that they are the best when it comes to building thrill rides. Mummy, Hulk, Spider-Man, Popeye and Bluto, MIB and Dudley Do-Right are all fantastic thrill rides and Forbidden Journey is sure to outdo them all. Disney makes some good ones, but the fact is Universal is better at immersion for their thrill rides.

Believe me, I love Everest, Test Track, the mountains, Mission: SPACE, Tower of Terror, Rockin' Roller Coaster and Dinosaur as much as the next guy, but Universal overall is better at building thrill rides. They will haul in the older families and teens while Disney will bring in the families with younger children for Fantasyland. That's one thing that Disney needs to work on a bit is adding more for older audiences to do.

i reject your reality and substitute my own.... :king:

You will be assimilated and adapted to serve us Resistance is Futile.

 

[Lee]

You folks are nuts if you don't think the FLE is going to be hugely successful. This is going to be the ultimate destination for little girls, and little girls bring FAMILIES.

Yes. Little girls will love it. I'll give you that. That is it's greatest strength and weakness.

The difference is, when the FLE is done, FAMILIES will be coming to Disney – multiple people, spending 4+ days on Disney property, planning full vacations around it. Families that may not have thought it was worth the expense before. And the impact of the FLE won't just be felt for 2-5 years; it'll have a lasting impact on the overall impression of the Magic Kingdom for years and years.

Disagree with most of this paragraph, especially the part in bold. The number of vacations planned just because of the FLE will be relatively small. That is widely accepted within the company, and is not the reason for the expansion.
It will have a lasting impact on the overall impression of MK for years, that is true. Mostly due to the added capacity and a new ride.

Potter will be incredibly successful for thrill seekers, people without young children, and locals for the next 2-5 years; then it'll be on to the next big thing. In 20 years, it'll be dead and gone.

I see no basis for that assumption. There is no reason to think that the HP section at IoA will not be hugely popular in 20 years.

 

[Figment632]

What is a D? What is an E? (Yes, I know all about the old ticketing system... blah, blah, blah) But this confuses me. What constitutes a certain letter?

Is it the thrill of the ride, how much money they spend on it, etc.

I'm so confused...

AN E is Scale and imersiveness imo. IMO TOT is an E, Indy, CTX, BTM, POTC HM are E's. TSM, RnRc, and Buzz are D.

 

[Lee]

Little Mermaid is NOT a D ticket. It is pretty clearly categorized as an E up to the same level as Haunted Mansion.

Yes...yes it is a D.:brick:
Tell me one person within the Walt Disney Co., besides someone in marketing and PR, that has called the ride an E.

 

[devoy1701]

Yes...yes it is a D.:brick:
Tell me one person within the Walt Disney Co., besides someone in marketing and PR, that has called the ride an E.

I bet Stacey will call it an E.

 

[IWant2GoNow]

Yes...yes it is a D.:brick:
Tell me one person within the Walt Disney Co., besides someone in marketing and PR, that has called the ride an E.

I think we should just put a sticky up and close it that reads "Lee knows TLM is a D Ticket".

Ahh, who am I kidding. No one would read that either. :lol:

 

[Testtrack321]

I bet Stacey will call it an E.

What is an E? What is a D? Why would they even use it in a quick sound bit type video marketing service in resorts that people put on while unpacking?

I believe the E-A ride comparison system is flawed at best. Rides were given such ratings beyond their imersiveness!

 

[hack2112]

Yes...yes it is a D.:brick:
Tell me one person within the Walt Disney Co., besides someone in marketing and PR, that has called the ride an E.

But... But... The marketing and PR peoplez are teh cooliest!

I'm only speaking for me here, but I know that when I move to Orlando in the Fall, the first (and probably only) AP I'll be spending money on is one for the Universal Orlando Resort. I want my theme park dollars to go to innovators, and Disney hasn't been doing that.

 

[BrerFrog]

I am a little bit late to the party here, but I don't think there is anything Disney could do to compete with WWoHP. The FLE is nice, but it is far from being on the same level as the HP ride. Universal's attendance will spike, but it won't affect Disney's as I think most people will now add a day to their planned Orlando trips to go to Universal. I know I am one of those, even if I have no idea when I am taking my next trip.

I just hope that when Disney sees the piles of cash flowing into Universal's vaults they will notice that their own profit could be much bigger with a few expensive additions to their parks. Additions that would be on a similiar level to the Wizarding World.

 

[devoy1701]

What is an E? What is a D? Why would they even use it in a quick sound bit type video marketing service in resorts that people put on while unpacking?

I believe the E-A ride comparison system is flawed at best. Rides were given such ratings beyond their imersiveness!

:brick:

 

[roselindsey]

Going this year

We just decided to go to Disney because my daughter wants to see Harry Potter. We are staying off site and will spend:sohappy: 6 days at Disney and 1 day to see Harry Potter World.

 

[Testtrack321]

:brick:

How is this a flawed view? I don't disagree with the fact TLM isn't going to be the gate buster we initially thought, I'm saying using this system that was a financial tool earlier to compare rides in terms of immersion, technology, story, and experience is flawed. When Disney has been liberal with either applying or not applying E/D/C why should we use it as a definite system? Why should we even use it as a system at ALL?

 

[magic2me]

Yeah..roll your eyes because I am sure many of us here do whenever you post..

There are more then a few who could care less about HP I am sure..

Once again...you do not know for a FACT...look up what that means if you need too..that FLE will not add many people..so quit saying that you KNOW until you can prove it..once you can..feel free to do so.

:brick:

Yup. My DH is one. When we go to a HP movie he is know to fall asleep. He has no interst in reading the books and is only going to WWoHP because I want to. If I don't want to go back then he will be happy at WDW. If I do he will go. We both love SW and have platinum APs there. We still stay at our Disney resort when we visit SW. We are also know to go to DTD or the Disney outlets on our SW day.

I suspect we would do the outets on the Universal trip too.

 

[devoy1701]

How is this a flawed view? I don't disagree with the fact TLM isn't going to be the gate buster we initially thought, I'm saying using this system that was a financial tool earlier to compare rides in terms of immersion, technology, story, and experience is flawed. When Disney has been liberal with either applying or not applying E/D/C why should we use it as a definite system? Why should we even use it as a system at ALL?

I gave you the brick face because I was making a joke to Lee that Stacey would call it a new E-ticket and you kind of killed it right away.

If you read my earlier post in this thread I mentioned that I also think that the letter rating system is flawed in its current form.

 

[Testtrack321]

I gave you the brick face because I was making a joke to Lee that Stacey would call it a new E-ticket and you kind of killed it right away.

If you read my earlier post in this thread I mentioned that I also think that the letter rating system is flawed in its current form.

Ah ok cool, sorry! I guess I'm just a jerk! :ROFLOL:

 

[AndyMagic]

Remember the Spiderman ride.

It was supposed to be the "latest, best use of theme park technology ever." And it was for the first two years, until Universal stopped giving it TLC. Like cleaning the projections or fixing little things that break or go bad.

Now if you go to the Spiderman Ride it looks tired and worn down. I noticed the last time I rode it that they didn't finish the experience behind you. So if you were to look away from the action on the drop you would notice it was all a bunch of fans and a 3d movie.

This is Universal's MO. They can and will build amazing rides, but can they keep the magic alive? HP will draw huge crowds this summer, but what about the value season when crowds are light? What about maintenance?

This is hilarious to me and completely off the mark. Universal's rides (especially Spider-Man) have every effect working perfectly to this day. Every effect on Spider-Man that was working in 1999 was working when I visited in 06, 07, 08 and 09. Meanwhile Disney had tons of effects that worked on rides for one year and then they dropped them entirely because they didn't consider them important enough to maintain. Dinosaur effects? Everest as a whole? Splash Mountain's bouncing rabbit which only bounces once in a blue moon? This idea that Universal doesn't maintain their rides is complete and utter BS. :wave:

 

[monorail_silver]

Only spending one day at Universal Orlando is an injustice to it's offerings.

 

[devoy1701]

Ah ok cool, sorry! I guess I'm just a jerk! :ROFLOL:

its ok...it was a bad joke I guess.

 

[Thrill Seeker]

Yes...yes it is a D.:brick:
Tell me one person within the Walt Disney Co., besides someone in marketing and PR, that has called the ride an E.

I believe John Lasseter himself called it an E...