Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid

[TalkingHead]

Internationally it seems like the same movies dominate the box office as they do domestically, but hard to say if that’s due to demand or lack of options. I can’t think of any princess movies or rom coms that have been released with a big production budget post Covid.

There may be pent-up demand for a girl-friendly property that’s made for the younger demo. Buy there’s also more subtext to the question of international business for this specific production.

 

[DKampy]

And if we're talking about the same person, they want mermaid, NOT Disney as a company, to fail because they want Disney to go away from the live action remakes. That's a perfectly valid opinion to have. You might not like it, but that doesn't make it wrong. There's enough of a sample size to say, I think the live action remakes are terrible. You might love them and want Disney to remake the remakes. But a lot of people would prefer they put their focus elsewhere.

So there's a group of posters who come down on criticism, you agree. And a group that is overly negative. That's two groups, I never said there was only 2 groups. I said the 2 groups get into a P-ing contest making things worse.

IMO the live action remakes have been a mixed bag at best. Maybe I am missing something but I see one side hoping for the best as they are Disney and Little Mermaid fans, but nervous at the same time… while another side saying the film is going to be awful without seeing the film. For a person to post that they hope Disney fails in a thread that you know is full of individuals excited for the film feels like it borders on trolling…I have no interest in Transformers… thus I don’t seek out threads for that movie…I have seen plenty of people on the pro Disney side critical of recent films once they see it… the difference is the other side seem glee-full to see Disney fail without even watching the film…. See the Strange World and Lightyear threads for examples…on a Disney fan forum no less… and I wonder why there is pushback

 

[CinematicFusion]

Disney needs to do something… stock has tanked since 2021. Disney has lost half its valuation.
What is wrong with Disney creative team?

 

[DisneyHead123]

Buy there’s also more subtext to the question of international business for this specific production.

How so?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Disney needs to do something… stock has tanked since 2021.

The 2021 heights was a bubble of over-exuberance surrounding the launch of D+ and investors looking for a safe place to put money in a company that would weather the pandemic shutdowns.

Coming out of the pandemic, many of Disney's operations were still shut-down (esp. overseas and cruises). And it hit investors that when Disney said D+ won't be profitable until 2024, they meant it. So, they abandoned DIS stock.

IOW, that bubble at 2021 was an aberration. And until Dis starts paying dividends again, they're not going to reinvest. Especially since they can't make up their minds whether to watch profitability or sub numbers... they're currently only focused on the worse of the two, whichever it may be.

 

[CinematicFusion]

The 2021 heights was a bubble of over-exuberance surrounding the launch of D+ and investors looking for a safe place to put money in a company that would weather the pandemic shutdowns.

Coming out of the pandemic, many of Disney's operations were still shut-down (esp. overseas and cruises). And it hit investors that when Disney said D+ won't be profitable until 2024, they meant it. So, they abandoned DIS stock.

IOW, that bubble at 2021 was an aberration. And until Dis starts paying dividends again, they're not going to reinvest. Especially since they can't make up their minds whether to watch profitability or sub numbers... they're currently only focused on the worse of the two, whichever it may be.

Also their product has been less then desirable. Peter pan, Mandalorian season 3 (what happened to this show?), Ms. Marvel aren't must see tv that brings an audience over like Stranger Things on Netflix. Disney needs 5 of those type of shows on it's platform.
Little Mermaid looks very middle of the road in big part because it's just a rehash of an all time animation classic and it's gonna feel like a repeat viewing... just like live action Lion King.
Haunted Mansion going to be the hit show of the summer for Disney?
Indiana Jones? I think everyone is scared Lucasfilm is going to mess that one up, hope I'm wrong.
Guardians is underperforming vs. Guardians 2 and that is troubling for the Marvel universe with the Marvels coming out.

Disney needs hits and right now I feel Universal is the big dog on campus as far as animation goes.

Today is a blood bath for Disney shareholders and I'm sure many have had enough.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Mandalorian season 3 (what happened to this show?), Ms. Marvel aren't must see tv

For not being must see, it's a wonder why they kept landing on Nielsen's top 10 streamed original shows during their run.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

For not being must see, it's a wonder why they kept landing on Nielsen's top 10 streamed original shows during their run.

It’s just more nonsensical “I hate Disney and the direction they’re going” coded posts.

Mando S3 was very popular within the Star Wars community and had very high viewership. Ms. Marvel was personally one of my favorite MCU shows.

Disney is not crashing and burning. Also Mando is their “Stranger Things”.

 

[CinematicFusion]

For not being must see, it's a wonder why they kept landing on Nielsen's top 10 streamed original shows during their run.

Star Wars: The Mandalorian Season 3 is measuring slightly behind Season 1&2 when it comes to audience demand. A new report breaking down The Mandalorian Season 3's performance on Disney+ lays it out quite clearly: While the milestone first season of The Mandalorian peaked at numbers like 99.2 times the average series demand within a month (30 days) of its premiere, The Mandalorian Season 3 is coming in at numbers like 68.8x the average demand.


I don't know, maybe the numbers dropped for Stranger Things in season 4.

 

[CinematicFusion]

It’s just more nonsensical “I hate Disney and the direction they’re going” coded posts.

Mando S3 was very popular within the Star Wars community and had very high viewership. Ms. Marvel was personally one of my favorite MCU shows.

Disney is not crashing and burning. Also Mando is their “Stranger Things”.

No it's not... nothing nonsensical about my so-called coded posts when the stock is down 8% today on over 50 million in volume.
Disney is in trouble.

 

[erasure fan1]

Maybe I am missing something but I see one side hoping for the best as they are Disney and Little Mermaid fans, but nervous at the same time… while another side saying the film is going to be awful without seeing the film. For a person to post that they hope Disney fails in a thread that you know is full of individuals excited for the film feels like it borders on trolling…

I get what you're saying. But again, it works both ways. If you are someone who loves what Disney is doing, and you are crazy excited for mermaid. Why hang out in the Disney needs to step up its creativity game thread? But guess what? Here comes the defenders jumping down the throats of people who think Disney is lacking. You could say that it boarders on trolling... If someone is all sunshine and roses, why even go in that thread? So like I said, it goes both ways in my opinion.

 

[TalkingHead]

Bottom line is eight years ago any new SW content was a cultural event. Now it’s equivalent to a new episode of NCIS. They don’t get that they’ve completely misplayed the most valuable IP in Hollywood history. That’s Iger magic for you.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Star Wars: The Mandalorian Season 3 is measuring slightly behind Season 1&2 when it comes to audience demand. A new report breaking down The Mandalorian Season 3's performance on Disney+ lays it out quite clearly: While the milestone first season of The Mandalorian peaked at numbers like 99.2 times the average series demand within a month (30 days) of its premiere, The Mandalorian Season 3 is coming in at numbers like 68.8x the average demand.


I don't know, maybe the numbers dropped for Stranger Things in season 4.

The link isn't to the article you're quoting. Could you please link that article please? Thanks.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Bottom line is eight years ago any new SW content was a cultural event. Now it’s equivalent to a new episode of NCIS. They don’t get that they’ve completely misplayed the most valuable IP in Hollywood history. That’s Iger magic for you.

A TV Show and a Theatrical release are two different things. The next Star Wars theatrical release will be a “cultural event”

 

[erasure fan1]

The next Star Wars theatrical release will be a “cultural event”

Will it? I'm not so confident. There's a lot of factors that could shift it either way. For my own love of star wars, I hope so. I just don't have a lot of confidence in Lucasfilm. Indy is a big factor in my opinion. If it's great, there's hope. If it's a poop show, uh oh, danger Will Robinson.

 

[Prince-1]

A TV Show and a Theatrical release are two different things. The next Star Wars theatrical release will be a “cultural event”

It will never be a cultural event anymore. With multiple movies that came out over the last decade plus all of the shows that are on D+ has decreased the excitement for SW.

 

[BuddyThomas]

I’ve given up trying to predict anything anymore, but I hope you’re right, if only to put an end to the “Audiences have abandoned Disney” narrative that has so gripped this board.

The movie opens two weeks from today. Here is a screenshot of seat availability at the 7:15 showing at the AMC Empire Times Square.

Again, it is two weeks away. That is a lot of pre-sold seats. The idea that people are not interested in this movie is completely and totally absurd.

 

[LittleBuford]

The movie opens two weeks from today. Here is a screenshot of seat availability at the 7:15 showing at the AMC Empire Times Square.

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Again, it is two weeks away. That is a lot of pre-sold seats. The idea that people are not interested in this movie is completely and totally absurd.

Yikes! My partner and I had better book our seats at our local cinema!

 

[erasure fan1]

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Again, it is two weeks away. That is a lot of pre-sold seats. The idea that people are not interested in this movie is completely and totally absurd.

I'll start by saying I have very little interest in this film. But I also think it will have plenty of interest and do well. But by this logic, the movie is going to tank. I looked up opening day by me, and 1 showing had about 1/3 of the smallest theater filled. The other prime time showings had zero seats sold. So I went to Saturday thinking that should be better. Nope. Almost all the showings are empty. At best there are 2 to 5 seats. Point being that you discount people's opinions based on things like a tweet or YouTuber. But this really isn't any better.

Here is Saturday, opening weekend prime time by me.

 

[BuddyThomas]

I'll start by saying I have very little interest in this film. But I also think it will have plenty of interest and do well. But by this logic, the movie is going to tank. I looked up opening day by me, and 1 showing had about 1/3 of the smallest theater filled. The other prime time showings had zero seats sold. So I went to Saturday thinking that should be better. Nope. Almost all the showings are empty. At best there are 2 to 5 seats. Point being that you discount people's opinions based on things like a tweet or YouTuber. But this really isn't any better.

Here is Saturday, opening weekend prime time by me.

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I guess we’ll all find out in two weeks, won’t we????