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Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid
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Californian Elitist
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No one should be depending on any source to know if a movie is good or not, since such a thing is subjective and is opinion-based.
Jedijax719
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Not so sure about that. The biggest praise for the movie has been what people really want to see in the movie; that is that Hallie's performance as Ariel is phenomenal. And the added bonus has been that both McCarthy and Diggs have been praised. Nobody has blasted the visuals and they've looked fine. Most viewers won't really worry too much about that. And they will care even less about the pacing which has been the main complaint. The music, the performance, and some nostalgia-those are what most viewers of this movie want to see and it sound like they hit those pretty well.
Sales for opening weekend have been trending between Aladdin and BatB, so I think it will end up somewhere in there overall (probably closer to Aladdin).
BrianLo
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What's your take on the broadway musicals of the renaissance movies?
I'm not saying they are the same thing, but they serve a similar purpose. Though maybe you also dislike those, which is why I ask. Is it because the medium (theatres) didn't change that makes this more crass?
Many people have also mentioned Disney is trying to replace the animated originals. Though I really don't see evidence of that. I just see it as a way of getting the content in front of new audiences and milking the nostalgia of others now that the home delivery model means they can't actually trot out the animated film into theatres and see much return or awareness. These movies don't replace the almost across the board superior animated originals, they sort of breath another generation back into the property. Which IS most assuredly crass, possibly uncreative and corporate, but it's Disney's new "the vault" of this generation.
BrianLo
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Perri Nemiroff is most certainly a film critic. You probably are referring to some of the other tweets, but your post is following Perri's a bit unfortunately.
This was reactions to the premiere. Not a social media fan event, invited critics were in attendance.
That said - I very much doubt this will by any means post a super fantastic rotten tomato score, but that doesn't particularly matter. It's being made for general audiences and they seem to not align well with critic perception (particularly Lion King and Aladdin).
BrianLo
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Agree with the Rotten Tomatoes (70's), better would be an interesting turn of events, worse wouldn't really impact the film's potential (Aladdin and Lion King both in the 50's).
A CinemaScore *90+ RT Audience
Probably 900's or hanging on the doorstep of 1B for Box office
*It's important to note Aladdin, Lion King and B&TB all had A CinemaScores. So it would be a bit of a rejection for this to do less with general audiences. The critical reception only really matters for Halle's Oscars buzz.
MagicHappens1971
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In my opinion, there’s no way this film doesn’t make a billion or close to it.
Phroobar
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Didn't I see you in Fantasyland?
MagicHappens1971
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The other “big name” live actions, Aladdin, Lion King, Beauty and the Beast all made over a billion.
CaptainAmerica
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That was pre-COVID and Mermaid has always been the least of the Big 4.
Phroobar
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And all of the other live action movies have not.
LittleBuford
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OK, but that doesn’t change @MagicHappens1971’s point, does it? I’m not sure why you consider his prediction so outlandish.
MagicHappens1971
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Thank you. Disney has pulled out all of the marketing stops for this movie (for what feels like the first time in forever, for a Disney Studios release). On top of that, TLM has a big fan base and tons of children who adore Ariel. She’s my favorite princess so I am a bit biased, but I think Halle sounds fantastic. Melissa looks great as Ursula. Maybe it’ll only make $800 million. I don’t see anything south of that number happening.
LittleBuford
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I’ve given up trying to predict anything anymore, but I hope you’re right, if only to put an end to the “Audiences have abandoned Disney” narrative that has so gripped this board.
LSLS
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I think success to me would be over $800 million. I'm not going to see it, and personally wouldn't be too upset to see it do badly only because I hate the remakes and nothing I've seen or heard has convinced me it's anything more than that, though I'm not sure they change that direction even if it does poorly (please understand I don't care if you are excited for it, that's perfectly fine to me, this is just my personal preference. I'm too old to knock people for what they like).
Gotta admit I am a bit curious on how Hailey plays Ariel. I don't think any person without an extreme bias can question the singing at this point, but does the character come across similar to the original, or are they changing up her character? Maybe on D+ I'll check it out (though I haven't checked out any of the other remakes that were just like the oroginals after BatB completely turned me off to them).
Gotta admit I am a bit curious on how Hailey plays Ariel. I don't think any person without an extreme bias can question the singing at this point, but does the character come across similar to the original, or are they changing up her character? Maybe on D+ I'll check it out (though I haven't checked out any of the other remakes that were just like the oroginals after BatB completely turned me off to them).
erasure fan1
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I think Disney will need to put up a better win than the little mermaid to silence that narrative. I'm not one for these live action remakes, I've been extremely vocal about it. But I see no reason this movie doesn't do 800/900mil. It's a golden era film, it's pretty low fruit. They need to string a few together before that narrative starts to quiet down.
Disstevefan1
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We need to know how much it cost to make PLUS how much it costs to market.
In some cases, they spend more on marketing that it cost to make the film.
So, depending on the costs, $800 million may or may not be enough for the film to actually make money.
That said, Disney is not making movies only to make money, they want to express their art.
If they can make money too. Thats great.
As I have said in other posts, going forward, my hope that Disney movies take in more than it costs to make and market the movie.
I have no expectations of "Mario Bros" blockbusters from Disney.
LittleBuford
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Why? The narrative itself is built on the basis of a few films, principally Lightyear and Strange World, which have been invoked obsessively in a manner out of all keeping with their actual significance. The standards for undoing the narrative should be just as low.
Kirby86
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I don't think they're tring to replace the orignals i mean we can still watch them. My take on the Broadway plays are they are a completely different type of experience. What works for the screen be it animated or live action is completely diffrent from what works on the stage.
erasure fan1
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It's more than just that. There's been plenty of D+ sub par material, as well as marvel having a huge dip in quality. And while we will never know what the box office would have been if we didn't have covid. But the movies that were released straight to D+ were in no way classics in my opinion. Personally there has been a whole lot of mediocre at best for the past few years in my opinion.