Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid

DKampy

Well-Known Member
If only the rest of Hollywood had stopped releasing movies throughout the summer, Mermaid would have made more money.

Because the ninth (9th) week of a movie's theater run is where they really make their big box office take?

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(I must now beg eternal forgiveness from Miss Marsh, my 5th grade penmanship teacher. I actually have lovely cursive handwriting thanks to her, but using a fat finger on a touchpad is impossible to do in screen grabs, so I just use a clunky version of my printed handwriting. Miss Marsh is not amused, but I think it gets the point across, however unattractively.)
Never said The Little Mermaid would make much more, she would of pushed through 300… if Barbie and Oppenheimer didn’t need as many theater and they did which I am not arguing against… as both movies have been selling out in a number of showings
 

Disstevefan1

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I just watched TLM. My family wanted to watch it so we purchased it digitally on Amazon for $19 that included extras, with I think a directors cut that is narrated with other extras, over 6 hours of content.

We just watched the movie but it’s cool to be able to go back and see the extra content at any time.

We all gave it a 8 out of 10. For me this is how I came to an 8.

I need to start with an analogy.

Before you want to drive you always do the same things for safety and because it’s just the right thing to do:
Seatbelts clicked ✅
Check the mirrors ✅
Release parking break✅

Entering into this movie, I knew Disney would do the usual safe and right things:
Race swap characters✅
Gender swap characters ✅
Swap gender roles✅

These changes neither help nor hurt the movie. As long as we understand it’s done to check check boxes, and we know there is no harm done to the movie, it is what it is, and it’s fine, and let’s watch the movie.

The movie is fine and I am the first to admit I got chills at moments. The thing about live action remakes, it’s harder for me to suspend disbelief than when it’s an animated movie. How did the prince survive the whirlpool when “with” Ariel battling the sea witch? Nevermind, anyway, my family did not like some of the CGI, I did not care, it looked ok to me.

Anyway, it’s again a 8 of 10 as voted by the family and actually a good deal for $19 to watch at home and be and be able to go back and see the extras when ever we want it.
 
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Disney Irish

Premium Member
Looks like Barbie will be surpassing The Little Mermaid domestically this weekend and only in it's second week.

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I didn't think it would do it when we first made the bet, but congrats to the Barbie movie.

This however doesn't take anything away from TLM, as its still a good film overall in my opinion. Its still passed $560M which is something that some around here claimed it would never do.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Its still passed $560M which is something that some around here claimed it would never do.

That's $561,168,752 to be exact.

And with a $250 Million production budget, and a $140 Million marketing budget, that means Little Mermaid has only lost $106 Million at the global box office so far.

Or if we pretend Disney spent $100 Million on marketing (they didn't, but let's pretend), that would mean Little Mermaid has only lost $66 Million at the global box office. Who cares about losing $66 Million? Those Disney theme parks don't need night parades, honestly.

Mermaid Shells.jpg

 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
$560,848,888 gross so far.

It cost 250m to make and say 100m to market, that's 350m total costs.

Let's say Disney get half of the box office gross back into their pockets.

TLM needs to take home 70m more to break even.

Aside from box office, they got streaming rental, purchase, and physical media. It will probably break even eventually.
It’s interesting how the discussion went from would it make a billion, to would it lose hundreds of millions, to will it break even.

It looks like it’ll come close to even at this point, certainly better than losing hundreds of millions, but far from the original goal also.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I just watched TLM. My family wanted to watch it so we purchased it digitally on Amazon for $19 that included extras, with I think a directors cut that is narrated with other extras, over 6 hours of content.

We just watched the movie but it’s cool to be able to go back and see the extra content at any time.

We all gave it a 8 out of 10. For me this is how I came to an 8.

I need to start with an analogy.

Before you want to drive you always do the same things for safety and because it’s just the right thing to do:
Seatbelts clicked ✅
Check the mirrors ✅
Release parking break✅

Entering into this movie, I knew Disney would do the usual safe and right things:
Race swap characters✅
Gender swap characters ✅
Swap gender roles✅

These changes neither help nor hurt the movie. As long as we understand it’s done to check check boxes, and we know there is no harm done to the movie, it is what it is, and it’s fine, and let’s watch the movie.

The movie is fine and I am the first to admit I got chills at moments. The thing about live action remakes, it’s harder for me to suspend disbelief than when it’s an animated movie. How did the prince survive the whirlpool when “with” Ariel battling the sea witch? Nevermind, anyway, my family did not like some of the CGI, I did not care, it looked ok to me.

Anyway, it’s again a 8 of 10 as voted by the family and actually a good deal for $19 to watch at home and be and be able to go back and see the extras when ever we want it.
I think the more those things are done, the less unusual they will seem to people. In any event, the movie was so delightful and fun that I noticed very little of the stuff people here were complaining about. I enjoyed watching the extras - it was interesting to see some of the process.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
World wide or domestic…. I don’t recall anyone saying 700 million domestic
There are people who are saying it was expected to make a billion. I don’t think they’re referring to credible sources, at least none I could find. Maybe other posters on this site.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
World wide or domestic…. I don’t recall anyone saying 700 million domestic

Worldwide. Though I don't think I ever actually said it that I can see, I thought the movie pre-release would do 800 million.

Again the shocking thing really no one figured out was the huge mismatch between domestic and international. Hence why we wound up in this strange grey area where the movie really disappointed its proponents and over performed against its naysayers.

So the thread will continue to live on and on and on until the movie has been litigated to utter death. No one is really satisfied.

I guess if it really matters for street cred, Disney is also disappointed.
 

Ghost93

Well-Known Member
Worldwide. Though I don't think I ever actually said it that I can see, I thought the movie pre-release would do 800 million.

Again the shocking thing really no one figured out was the huge mismatch between domestic and international. Hence why we wound up in this strange grey area where the movie really disappointed its proponents and over performed against its naysayers.

So the thread will continue to live on and on and on until the movie has been litigated to utter death. No one is really satisfied.

I guess if it really matters for street cred, Disney is also disappointed.
I think it's fair to say that domestically, the Little Mermaid is a hit and overseas it's a flop. Taken altogether, it's a financial dissapointment for Disney, as I'm sure they were expecting $800 million-$1 billion.
 

BrianLo

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I think it's fair to say that domestically, the Little Mermaid is a hit and overseas it's a flop. Taken altogether, it's a financial dissapointment for Disney, as I'm sure they were expecting $800 million-$1 billion.

It's also interesting to note the sheer randomness of the final number we ended at, which was the breakeven scenario Deadline highlighted months ago. It's ability to make 560 million was roundly questioned back in June. So it did leg out far more than anticipated ultimately.

We actually don't really need to await a final talley in this case, the post theatrical take-home on Mermaid was already pegged at 71 million.

In a break-even scenario off a $560M global box office (meaning a net profit of $71M before participations and residuals are accounted for), we’re told that Little Mermaid‘s global film revenues would amount to $547M against its combined production, global theatrical and home entertainment marketing expenses of $476M. The pic’s revenues broken down include $267M in global theatrical film rentals, $100M net in domestic pay/free TV and what Disney pays itself to put the movie on Disney+, $100M in global home entertainment (DVD, digital), and $80M in international TV and streaming.

The box office run is now pretty much done though. Barbie and Haunted Mansion are pretty much the final nails in the coffin for interest to see this in theatres.

Now we await the inevitable post theatrical run and D+ viewership. Which will certainly be interesting. Particularly if it strongly sticks the landing in Nielsen ratings for this Fall, that I kind of suspect might be the case.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I think it's fair to say that domestically, the Little Mermaid is a hit and overseas it's a flop. Taken altogether, it's a financial dissapointment for Disney, as I'm sure they were expecting $800 million-$1 billion.

That's exactly what Disney was expecting from Mermaid.

You don't spend $250 Million on a movie, plus another $140 Million on marketing, and expect it to lose $100 Million.
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
So the thread will continue to live on and on and on until the movie has been litigated to utter death. No one is really satisfied.
I’m obviously not pleased it didn’t do better overseas, but (perhaps selfishly) I care very little overall about its box-office performance. What interests me as a viewer is whether I enjoyed it or not, and in that regard, I’m very satisfied.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I’m obviously not pleased it didn’t do better overseas, but (perhaps selfishly) I care very little overall about its box-office performance. What interests me as a viewer is whether I enjoyed it or not, and in that regard, I’m very satisfied.
I feel sorry for people who made up their minds about this movie without seeing it. It’s the kind of sweet, joyful movie that is Disney at its best. I thought the performances were stellar and the cinematography was gorgeous!
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
I feel sorry for people who made up their minds about this movie without seeing it. It’s the kind of sweet, joyful movie that is Disney at its best. I thought the performances were stellar and the cinematography was gorgeous!
They got out of it what they wanted, which was fuel for their grievances. Just take a look at this mess of a thread.

But yes, I agree with you. It’s a terrible shame, all the more so because it really needn’t—and shouldn’t—have been this way.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
Except that it was entirely predicted and one of the main discussion/debate points when the film was announced.

There is absolutely no surprise in the final global box office (well, apparently only to a few hopeful posters here), even the domestic came in the forecasted final range (actually below the midpoint of $325M on BOPro) at about $300M.

Final BO Pro full domestic forecast before release:


I'm happy to be proven wrong, but that link is exclusively about domestic. I don't think we are surprised about domestic.

Where is the pre-release buzz the film was exclusively going to tank internationally and kind of do well domestically? And not from a source that was simultaneously undervaluing the entire thing and saying the worldwide total would be low (in part because they also expected domestic to be low).

I think you are saying no one is surprised about the destination (worldwide), but I am saying I am surprised about the route we took to the destination (domestic/international splits).
 

Ghost93

Well-Known Member
They got out of it what they wanted, which was fuel for their grievances. Just take a look at this mess of a thread.

But yes, I agree with you. It’s a terrible shame, all the more so because it really needn’t—and shouldn’t—have been this way.
At least this thread isn't quite as toxic as the Strange World thread. I think that thread was the ultimate low point on this forum.

Anyway, when I saw The Little Mermaid, it was in a packed theater. The audience loved it. I live in an area with a slightly higher Black population than white, and a lot of Black mothers and their daughters seemed really happy to have a princess that looks like them. The movie may not be the home run hit at the box office that Disney wanted, but it at least gives a new generation of Black girls a heroine they can look up to and dress up as. A heroine that STAYS a woman of color throughout the movie instead of turning into a frog for 75% of the film.
 

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