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Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid

lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
We’ve seen lots of complaints against “bloated” park budgets also, if I had a dollar for every complaint over what Tron, Guardians, or Moana cost I’d be living in Golden Oaks right now.

I view this as the same thing, spending $500 million on Guardians was outrageous and people called them out on that too, that doesn’t mean we want cheaper rides but if it’s eating up the whole ride budget for years and Disney has to raise prices (more) to cover these massive budgets it’s bad for us as consumers.

It also sucks that as Disney parks fans we inevitably end up paying for the D+ loses, movie loses, and any other loses they incur via higher prices for everything in the parks.
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Part of the difference is what people are saying as a solution. Outside of a few people, you don’t have many suggesting Disney needs to be more like Cedar Fair when it comes to building (or maintaining!) rides. You do have a whole chorus of people claiming Disney should be doing this or that which ignores history and what that would actually entail.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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BrianLo said:
Actually @Disney Irish misquoted the Deadline article to you. Break even was somewhere around 440-450. 560M was 71M in profit with residuals then qualifying and being paid out of some of that.
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The numbers are all over the place.

If there is any truth that TLM cost $250 to make then you have marketing costs, 450 is not even close.

Therefore, folks can believe whatever they want in both directions. The truth is out there someplace.

I want to hope TWDC does not lose money on any of their movies.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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BuddyThomas said:
Well, maybe we can wait until this one is out of post production before we start speculating on it being a disaster. I will say that Marc Webb is a great director and he did 500 Days of Summer, one of my favorite films.
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As I said, I hope I am wrong.

When I hear "Snow White live action remake" I am going in depressed, not excited.

Now Moana on the other hand, I want to see it because I am a fan of the Rock so I want to see how it does with it.
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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Casper Gutman said:
Which raises a question I’ve asked but which hasn’t really been answered - do the folks glorying in TLMs failure want authoritarian governments to have a veto over American entertainment products? I was livid when Transformers: Age of Extinction halted its “narrative” to present what amounted to an ad glorifying the Chinese government, and I’ve been highly critical of Disney’s relationship with that government. A lot of the anti-TLM posters are the same who constantly bring up China to try to divert from American political issues, so I ask again - should Disney base creative decisions on how they think China (or Russia, or Saudi Arabia, etc) will react?
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So a company chooses to budget projects requiring extensive buy-in from a totalitarian country (where they also get a huge percentage of their manufactured goods and have chosen to become business partners in at least one theme park) and its *our* problem?
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Disstevefan1 said:
The numbers are all over the place.

If there is any truth that TLM cost $250 to make then you have marketing costs, 450 is not even close.

Therefore, folks can believe whatever they want in both directions. The truth is out there someplace.

I want to hope TWDC does not lose money on any of their movies.
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Post theatrically is what I am referring to. When DVD/BluRay, digital sales and D+ receipts are accounted for. We have a good source on this number in Deadline, which people are free to ignore. Theatrically alone, no, TLM will not break even. If it did, I imagine this thread would be dead.

While the number is not publicly given out by studios, the studios know the number. Because the talent must know the number. So the trades generally can find out that number. Anthony with Deadline has a long history for summarizing the actual receipts in his annual article series on winners and losers he usually does each Spring.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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BrianLo said:
Post theatrically is what I am referring to. When DVD/BluRay, digital sales and D+ receipts are accounted for. We have a good source on this number in Deadline, which people are free to ignore. Theatrically alone, no, TLM will not break even. If it did, I imagine this thread would be dead.

While the number is not publicly given out by studios, the studios know the number. Because the talent must know the number. So the trades generally can find out that number. Anthony with Deadline has a long history for summarizing the actual receipts in his annual article series on winners and losers he usually does each Spring.
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There was a lot of good discussions on these boards.

The fact is that TWDC will do what it will do no matter what is said here.

It appears that TWDC will continue to pump out live action remakes until there are none left to do.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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KeithVH

KeithVH

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Disstevefan1 said:
There was a lot of good discussions on these boards.

The fact is that TWDC will do what it will do no matter what is said here.

It appears that TWDC will continue to pump out live action remakes until there are none left to do.
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Maybe the best options is to look at their live action library and turn all those into animated versions?

I laugh at the idea and then cringe about the possibility.
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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KeithVH said:
Maybe the best options is to look at their live action library and turn all those into animated versions?

I laugh at the idea and then cringe about the possibility.
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If you think that an animated pirates of the Caribbean wasn't talked about, I have a bridge to sell you. Lol.

I'd say it's a matter of when they start, not so much if.
 
LittleBuford

LittleBuford

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erasure fan1 said:
Maybe because the other renaissance films all made over a billion and this one didn't come close?
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Yet the film itself is curiously missing from the discussion. I defy anyone to argue that The Lion King is a better remake than The Little Mermaid, even if it made a lot more money. But so focused has this thread become on issues of profitability (mainly to serve the "Disney is failing" narrative) that any consideration of the film's strengths and weaknesses, both in themselves and relative to those of the other remakes, has been very much sidelined. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised given that many (and perhaps most) of those posting here haven't even seen it!
 

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