Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
Saw TLM today. Clearly I’m a huge fan of the original, and I was a little worried about this one (specifically the music changes).

I loved it. Are there aspects that don’t quite work? Yes (the scuttlebutt song is meh. I would have preferred to see a song from the Broadway version added somewhere instead of that). But overall, I really enjoyed the impact that fleshing out of the characters had on the overall storyline and messaging. Definitely one of if not the best remake I’ve seen.
I’ve been wondering what you’d make of it given how similarly we feel about the original. I’m so glad you loved it!
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
I was wrong about the cultural impact of this movie. I assumed it would have none because not enough people would see it to even matter.

However it’s box office is right up there with other movies that help change the world like -

Hotel Transylvania 3 - Summer Vacations
Ice Age Continental Drift
Chicken Little

If you’re on this list you know you have made an impact!
 

Jedijax719

Well-Known Member
So, here's a serious question.

For those who are claiming/stating that the movie is a failure overseas, (particularly in Asia), that the movie is horrible or just bad, that most people don't like it, etc. What exactly is the point trying to be made? Nobody is disputing that the movie has failed in Asia, so that's beating a dead horse. What is exactly the purpose of going on and on and on about the negatives of this movie? What is being sought by doing that?

I think several people are really curious about the intentions in doing so.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
So, here's a serious question.

For those who are claiming/stating that the movie is a failure overseas, (particularly in Asia), that the movie is horrible or just bad, that most people don't like it, etc. What exactly is the point trying to be made? Nobody is disputing that the movie has failed in Asia, so that's beating a dead horse. What is exactly the purpose of going on and on and on about the negatives of this movie? What is being sought by doing that?

I think several people are really curious about the intentions in doing so.
If you haven't worked in or around corporate marketing, you would be disgusted if you really saw how the sausage gets made.

The strategy behind this movie was cynical at best and evil at worst.
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
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So, here's a serious question.

For those who are claiming/stating that the movie is a failure overseas, (particularly in Asia), that the movie is horrible or just bad, that most people don't like it, etc. What exactly is the point trying to be made? Nobody is disputing that the movie has failed in Asia, so that's beating a dead horse. What is exactly the purpose of going on and on and on about the negatives of this movie? What is being sought by doing that?

I think several people are really curious about the intentions in doing so.
Here’s a serious question.

What is the point of some posters continually cheerleading a film that has clearly fallen short.

I think several people here are really curious about the intentions of doing so.
 

LSLS

Well-Known Member
So, here's a serious question.

For those who are claiming/stating that the movie is a failure overseas, (particularly in Asia), that the movie is horrible or just bad, that most people don't like it, etc. What exactly is the point trying to be made? Nobody is disputing that the movie has failed in Asia, so that's beating a dead horse. What is exactly the purpose of going on and on and on about the negatives of this movie? What is being sought by doing that?

I think several people are really curious about the intentions in doing so.
I mean, it's a message board, and plenty of people are going on and on about the positives too. But, for me, the reason I kind of wanted it to fail was because I hate these lazy live actions at this point, and I want them to be creative. And it's not going to happen if they can keep doing the same thing and making money. NOW, I honestly am pretty shocked at how it's doing (I think I was on the it should make a billion easy train), but I'm definitely not broken up by it. I don't hate going live action, I just prefer it to be something unique ala Cruela or Maleficent.
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
So, here's a serious question.

For those who are claiming/stating that the movie is a failure overseas, (particularly in Asia), that the movie is horrible or just bad, that most people don't like it, etc. What exactly is the point trying to be made? Nobody is disputing that the movie has failed in Asia, so that's beating a dead horse. What is exactly the purpose of going on and on and on about the negatives of this movie? What is being sought by doing that?

I think several people are really curious about the intentions in doing so.


I know what your implying with your post, it doesn’t really deserve an actual response.

However maybe those “several people” should read this for a start.
 

FettFan

Well-Known Member
I think the truth of the matter is that Disney fans are finally fed up with live action remakes, especially after…

A. Robert Zemeckis had the unmitigated gall to decide that Pinocchio, the character whose signature song became the theme for the Walt Disney Company as a whole, should be totally amazed by a pile of horse crap.

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b. Allowing Dwayne Johnson’s ego to run wild to the point where he is producing a live action reimagining of a movie that only came out six years ago.

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Every retired sports star needs a retirement plan.
George Foreman has his kitchen appliances, John Madden had video games, Dwayne Johnson has Disney backwash.

The irony is that he once poked fun at these remakes.
 
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Jedijax719

Well-Known Member


I know what your implying with your post, it doesn’t really deserve an actual response.

However maybe those “several people” should read this for a start.
I'm not implying anything. I seriously wanted to know why there is constant negativity what the intention is in constantly bringing up the foreign markets when everyone has already agreed that they are mostly lacking.
 

Trauma

Well-Known Member
I'm not implying anything. I seriously wanted to know why there is constant negativity what the intention is in constantly bringing up the foreign markets when everyone has already agreed that they are mostly lacking.
I’m driving right now so I’ll give you the cliff notes answer.

If I could see the international box office failure a mile away, you can’t freaking tell me the Disney braintrust didn’t.

Is some of if because the Mermaid is Black?

YES

Is that a good thing?

NO

However Disney is a business and despite what some say around here it’s not doing well.

It was fine to make this movie with a much smaller budget.

The other option was to make this movie when the company was in a better position and could lose money.

Now is not the time for feel good projects.

The company does not run on feelings it runs on $$$.
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
What is the point of some posters continually cheerleading a film that has clearly fallen short.

I think several people here are really curious about the intentions of doing so.
Because it didn’t fall short for us, Disney fans who would like to discuss the film in a thread supposedly devoted to it.

The more pertinent question is why those who either didn’t watch or didn’t enjoy the film are wasting so much of their time—and ours—posting variations of the same thing again and again in an effort (regrettably successful) to derail this thread. But I guess I just answered my own question.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
If you haven't worked in or around corporate marketing, you would be disgusted if you really saw how the sausage gets made.

The strategy behind this movie was cynical at best and evil at worst.
I, for one, would honestly and genuinely love to hear more about this. (I'm not joking. DM me if it's too sensitive for public eyes)

Second weekend: -57% over opening weekend. Will this even hit $300 million domestically? :oops: I'd guess that a billion worldwide is a pipe dream at this point.

So for all the "good reviews", "good word-of-mouth", and "good press" this movie has received, why is all that not translating to better box office numbers? Is there a vast, global conspiracy by billions of people to sabotage this movie based purely on racial motives? Has Bob pulled the live-action-remake lever too many times already? Is it... just not that good?
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Because it didn’t fall short for us, Disney fans who would like to discuss the film in a thread supposedly devoted to it.

The more pertinent question is why those who either didn’t watch or didn’t enjoy the film are wasting so much of their time—and ours—posting variations of the same thing again and again in an effort (regrettably successful) to derail this thread. But I guess I just answered my own question.

Don't let it get to you. Some just want their "gotcha!" moment. (I admit that 'Tomorrowland' is a movie I love and most think it's a junk pile, so I kind of understand) Myself? I just want the live-action-remake train to derail for good. It's Eisner Sequelitis Part Deux.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
So, here's a serious question.

For those who are claiming/stating that the movie is a failure overseas, (particularly in Asia), that the movie is horrible or just bad, that most people don't like it, etc. What exactly is the point trying to be made? Nobody is disputing that the movie has failed in Asia, so that's beating a dead horse. What is exactly the purpose of going on and on and on about the negatives of this movie? What is being sought by doing that?

I think several people are really curious about the intentions in doing so.
The recognition is that this movie took a lot of time and effort to produce - that could be used on other projects that are better for Disney and it’s fans.

The question is: are they gonna continue to make bad product?


It’s really that simple. There can be a healthy debate around what happened and what it means? But it seems that you’re looking for “evil” on a stat sheet here. It is what it is. They missed.
Maybe there isn’t any?
 

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