Sirwalterraleigh
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That sure sounds like the “Ms coal mine” award
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Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid
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Jedijax719
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If producers, directors, and studios knew exactly what movies will and won't be hits in every country, EVERY movie would make $3 billion world wide.
BubbaisSleep
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Finally caught this film (been wanting to but a wedding followed by surgery combo kept me away). Loved this movie so much, definitely my favorite live-action film so far & the only one I’ve seen in theaters outside Aladdin. A lot of these movies you think “I’ll just watch the cartoon” but this is one of the rare ones where the live-action might win at times. I already knew Halle would be perfect & glad I was right. Jodi Benson’s cameo was great too!
Not shocked at all about Spidey, that movie has had free advertising since the first movie came out. It’s literally been voted the best Spidey movie since it premiered & constantly talked about. Glad to be going to the movies a lot again since Guardians.
Not shocked at all about Spidey, that movie has had free advertising since the first movie came out. It’s literally been voted the best Spidey movie since it premiered & constantly talked about. Glad to be going to the movies a lot again since Guardians.
Figgy1
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What exactly didn't you enjoy when you saw it?
Sirwalterraleigh
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I believe the article I posted in the Indy thread they weren’t expecting it to hit 8 figures in China
Disney should dump $6 billion in a park there to butter ‘em up
Sirwalterraleigh
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Why should anyone be held accountable for incompetence in ANY job?
We can all be happy like Mr Rodgers neighborhood
mf1972
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i’m surprised how well spidey did this weekend. i thought it would do good, but not this good. getting back to little mermaid, i’m not sure if it’s going to break $300 mil domestically. curious to see how it finishes up overseas. overall i think they’ll either break even or suffer a little loss at best.
Sirwalterraleigh
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It’s not a disaster…but there is no way in hell that either burbank or Wall Street will even bother to mention this again with an attempt at positive spin.
Please…just stop…let it breathe.
Sirwalterraleigh
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I think it’s actually an indictment of the MCU…
The format might be tired/oversaturated.
Only one of the last 4-5 have been good movies to watch…and it has legs. The rest all came in at under 25% what Disney beaners expected
BrianLo
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Wakanda Forever, DS: MoM and Thor were all amongst the top ten financially most successful movies last year.
Ya two probably didn’t quite blow the doors off like their wild dreams (though doctor strange did very well and was the fourth highest earning film of the year), but none of them were total slouches. I didn’t really like doctor strange.
Rank | Movie (Distributor) | Profit
1. Avatar: The Way Of Water (Disney) – $531.7M
2. Top Gun: Maverick (Paramount) – $391.1M
3. Minions: The Rise of Gru (Universal) – $382.0M
4. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness(Disney) – $284.0
5. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (Disney) – $259.0M
6. Jurassic World Dominion (Universal) – $229.7M
7. The Batman (Warner Bros) – $177.0M
8. Puss In Boots: The Last Wish (Universal) – $120.2M
9. Thor: Love and Thunder (Disney) – $103.0M
10. Smile (Paramount) – $101.0M
Small Movies/Big Profits: M3GAN (Uni), $78.8M; Where the Crawdads Sing (Sony), $74.7M; The Black Phone (Uni), $67.8M; Scream (Par), $56.7M; Everything Everywhere All at Once (A24), $32M
Bombs: Strange World (Dis), -$197.4M; Amsterdam (Dis), -$108.4; Lightyear (Dis), -$106M; Devotion (Sony), -$89.2M; Babylon (Par), -$87.4M
Vegas Disney Fan
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I wonder how much of the “doom“ is based on unrealistic expectations, Disney had an amazing stretch of billion dollar Marvel hits leading up to Infinity Wars, they also had a streak of (mostly average) Star Wars movies that made billions, I think we’ve gotten used to billion dollar Disney box offices so now that’s become an unrealistic expectation, they happen but are still rare.
Sirwalterraleigh
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I didn’t say they don’t rank…I said under what DISNEY would have wanted
Now for fun…compare 2019 to 2022
And remember also: Disney had NOTHING to do with avatar…lightstorm financed long before Disney bought fox…as big dog directors do
Sirwalterraleigh
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That is certainly part of it…saturation and a fundamental shift in movie going audiences
BrianLo
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The run the company had in the 2010’s was a bit unprecedented. They had five studios almost consistently firing on all cylinders, each pumping out billion dollar hits. The live action garbage was easily buried when they turned around and had their slew of billion dollar hitter remakes.
It set way too high of a bar for what people think is normal. Any studio would be delighted if they could intermittently hit ONE marketable children’s franchise every few years. Because the unspoken piece is the box office doesn’t exactly matter when you turn Frozen in a 10 figure merchandise line.
These remakes are not meant to be a replacement for the originals and I don’t get why people keep accusing them of that. They are merely a reinterpretation of Disney’s vault strategy to get these properties back in front of a new generation to restoke the merch train.
Mermaid is going to be an interesting case example and I think the whole reason it’s being so heavily talked about is because it isn’t super black and white. But they have seemingly reasonably rekindled the domestic market here and that’s not totally for nothing.
Just like Sony’s success this weekend is definitely Disney’s when they are sitting on the Spider-Man merch gravy train.
BrianLo
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Yes I can definitely on board Thor and I think Wakanda ‘did well’ but they had cultural movement 2.0 starry eyed hopes for that one that didn’t totally manifest.
But I think my broader point was doctor strange and GoTG3 have both lived up to the bean counters hopes and dreams, so I guess 2/5. Marvel isn’t flailing though, I just wanted that to be clear for the other ‘readers’.
Sirwalterraleigh
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I think the question being asked…and by billionaire cutthroats…not just us…is why are they on the skids a bit now?
The answer is Iger lost the juju and good luck he had. Not like you can say “good stuff coming next year!!” It takes 5 years to get a lot of this stuff out.
Same as parks. The cranes have left and the excavators are falling silent. Unless you want to pay a lot for a dvc with nothing new to look at out the window into the park
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Marvel is definitely sliding back. Not “failing”
Pixar has slid back…not “failed”
Feature hasn’t had a great hit for awhile…not “failed”
Live actions are now sliding…you get the drift?
LFL is a dumpster fire and they throw a tantrum about it like Veruca Salt…
That one is defcon 2
And you forget ant man…which is important cause fools around here think a “new avengers” is gonna reboot the whole MCU with same villain.
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Indy_UK
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Which has also been part of the problem. They need to push back releasing movies from the cinema so quickly to Disney+
What is the time frame currently? 90 days? That needs to double to 180 and let the digital purchase/ DVD/ Blu-ray sales come get rinsed as well as every penny from the box office.
Disney+ subscribers pay the least (if they pay at all) for the Disney movies so make them wait longer.
They were doing it for a while and since Covid they strangely moved away from that format
Jedijax719
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In a twist of irony, Spideyverse 2 only made $88 million overseas, just $10 million above TLM despite Spidey being immensely popular worldwide.
Not sure of the country by country breakdown. Will have to check on that one. Not sure where it fell short and what markets are left to open it.
Not sure of the country by country breakdown. Will have to check on that one. Not sure where it fell short and what markets are left to open it.