Disney's Hollywood Studios 25th Anniversary?

Bocabear

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In the early days of Hollywood they needed a lot of huge lights to get any kind of image on film, but the lights were a big fire hazard (MGM had a huge fire during the making of the Wizard of Oz in the 1930's that destroyed many of the sets). So because of the constant threat of fires, water towers were placed at the center of each studio lot, in case of fires on the sound stages they could use the water to quickly extinguish them, and since they were so protonate in the center of the lot, the studios would put their names/logos on the water towers.

But water towers are pretty much "the icon" of a movie studio in the 1930's, "golden age" of Hollywood, and it's really kind of dumb that they don't use the Earful Tower as the icon for the park
I guess my point is, to the average person out there, they don't see a water tower and immediately think "Oh! Hollywood!"...ever. I am sure every studio had a toilet too, but they are not using that as a symbol of the Golden Age Of Hollywood....I am not saying there are not any reasons to use a water tower, I just think the thought behind it is a little truncated...Is that the BEST choice for a single image that represents the park?... Disney Springs is also going to have a water tower as it's symbol...Celebration has a water tower as it's symbol... Surely there are other icons that immediately mean "The Golden Age Of Hollywood"...like a fabulous Movie Palace perhaps?
 

Marc Gil

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I remember watching the grand opening special and park preview on The Disney Channel when I was very young.

I miss the Old Studio Tour terribly!

I hope they do a special ceremony for DHS's 25th Anniversary! DHS was always my favorite park next to MK.
 

FerretAfros

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Honestly, DHS used to be a really great park and the behind the scenes of movie making was really cool. It's a shame in the last eight or ten years the park has seemed to lost it's identity. It used to be very clear, one half of the park was the classic Hollywood that never was and always will be, the other half was a look into how the movies are made.
I think one of the big things that had really hurt this park is DVD bonus features. The secrets and magic behind the movies just aren't as exciting as they were 15 years ago. Why wait in line for an attraction that shows how special effects are done, when you can learn about it from the comfort of your couch?

Even USH (which is *the* movie park if there ever was one) struggles with this. In last 15-20 years, they've shifted more towards attractions based on popular films, and less toward giving a behind-the-scenes look. The tram tour remains popular, but in large part because it passes such iconic sets from yesteryear. The current-ish sets like the Grinch and War of the Worlds are impressive, but aren't really headliners like the Psycho house. And that's with *real* sets; I'm not sure how going through WDW's costuming department can really compete

Yes, there's a lot to be said about the park losing its way in recent years. It's become a messy patchwork of things that don't really fit in the other parks. But at least it's recognized that the original concept doesn't really work as well in modern times, and has tried to adapt to it; if only it could adapt in a way that left us with a good park experience
It doesn't exactly work at DCA either, in my opinion. I know I am in the minority here, but I feel that DCA lost a lot of its character when they scraped the beautiful mosaic at the entrance, the giant CALIFORNIA letters, and the fountain at the end of the entry street. I also liked the original sun ferris wheel much better than a stupid giant Mickey head. I also miss Pizza Ooo Mow Mow. It was a unique dining venue. Most importantly, I miss the carnival beach music of Paradise Pier. I could literally spend a full day at Paradise Pier listening to the music. I do like the swings update and Mulholland Madness update. I still don't understand taking the Maliboomer out though???

But, adding ToT made it a complete park. Monsters Inc was another great add, and Carsland is equal to or greater than Potterland.

I do wish World of Color just ran on a continuous loop instead of stand alone shows. Seriously, how much would it cost to just keep it going? It would really cut down on the labor for crowd control. It would also allow for more merchandise and/or food/drink sales at the show. I don't get packing people in there for 75 minutes of misery.

They could roll shows over and over and over. Seems like a no brainer to me. It would also help with crowd flow.
I agree that the old DCA had a lot of really great stuff that wasn't appreciated (though it also had plenty of junk and places where they simply cheaped out). I think that one of the big issues was the audience's expectations going in: for people who had been to WDW and experienced all the different things that a Disney park could be, they understood what DCA was and they "got it"; but for the vast majority of soCal locals, DL was the only frame of reference they had, DCA was so completely different that it couldn't align with their expectations. WDW had the benefit of having the epic EPCOT Center to give people new expectations (and only 11 years after the first park opened); DLR had to do that with a budgeteered DCA (46 years after the first park)

To me, it seems like they removed a lot of DCA's good stuff, and just replaced it for the sake of replacing it. Slapping Mickey's face on the side of the Ferris wheel doesn't improve it (it makes it worse in my mind, but that's an entirely different discussion) and certainly doesn't support the supposed-theme of a vintage seaside pier. Overall, the level of execution and detail of the park is much higher now, but thematically the place is a huge mess. It has no idea if it wants to be about California or about random Disney branding. It's incredibly popular these days, but I think the park is less enjoyable than it was ~8 years ago, before the redo began
 

Californian Elitist

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It doesn't exactly work at DCA either, in my opinion. I know I am in the minority here, but I feel that DCA lost a lot of its character when they scraped the beautiful mosaic at the entrance, the giant CALIFORNIA letters, and the fountain at the end of the entry street. I also liked the original sun ferris wheel much better than a stupid giant Mickey head. I also miss Pizza Ooo Mow Mow. It was a unique dining venue. Most importantly, I miss the carnival beach music of Paradise Pier. I could literally spend a full day at Paradise Pier listening to the music. I do like the swings update and Mulholland Madness update. I still don't understand taking the Maliboomer out though???

But, adding ToT made it a complete park. Monsters Inc was another great add, and Carsland is equal to or greater than Potterland.

I do wish World of Color just ran on a continuous loop instead of stand alone shows. Seriously, how much would it cost to just keep it going? It would really cut down on the labor for crowd control. It would also allow for more merchandise and/or food/drink sales at the show. I don't get packing people in there for 75 minutes of misery.

They could roll shows over and over and over. Seems like a no brainer to me. It would also help with crowd flow.

I understand where you're coming from, a little bit. Overall, the new DCA is yards better than the version that opened thirteen years ago (wow, I'm getting old).

As a California native and resident, the first version of DCA was way too California for me. By this, I mean there were way too many obvious references. There was the Sun Wheel, the sun hubcap, the sun that was featured in the Greetings from California store, Bu-r-r-r-bank Ice Cream, MULHOLAND Madness, MALIB(U)mer, the orange swings, the tacky Superstar Limo, etc. DCA's main audience, back then and even today, is the California natives, mainly SoCal. We didn't need all those obvious references when we already lived in the state. DCA 1.0 may have came off as nice to you, since you're not a native (right?), but for natives, the park was annoying, redundant, seemingly pointless, tacky, and just boring. The new version just invokes California, as I mentioned in another thread. It's not completely obvious the park has a California theme. I'll take that any day over the POS we were given thirteen years ago. I still remember my first trip to DCA in 2001. I never want to see that version again.

Monsters is a great ride, but let's face it, it's misplaced.
 

prberk

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This was the best thing about DCA 1.0 and losing it was a good example of Disney spending money on something that didn't need to be fixed. I agree about the Sun Wheel too. The Soap Opera Bistro was an interesting concept as well.

DCA 1.0 wasn't devoid of merit, it just cut one (or seven) too many corners in its asthetic design and certain attractions.

I agree. I have NOT been to 2.0 yet (far away), but I did enjoy the original Southern California Sun theming of Paradise Pier. I also got lucky and was able to stay one time in the Malibu Suite of the renovated Paradise Pier hotel (on a regular AP discounted rate, due to hotel being full and being bumped up to it). It was on the 15th floor and overlooked the Paradise Pier. It was perfect in its view, and that section of the park was perfectly themed. I would have left it that way, and made all of the other changes.
 

prberk

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I also say that DHS should still have some live production, especially of Disney Channel shows or MMC, or game shows (like Family Fued at Universal). It is a perfect place to find an audience. And I see a continuously new MMC as a no-brainer. And I would also have a live (or live on tape) show from EPCOT featuring "discovery" type things, either for syndication or The Disney Channel. Walt knew the importance of broadcasing from the parks, and so should The Walt Disney Company.
 

tl77

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I guess my point is, to the average person out there, they don't see a water tower and immediately think "Oh! Hollywood!"...ever. I am sure every studio had a toilet too, but they are not using that as a symbol of the Golden Age Of Hollywood....I am not saying there are not any reasons to use a water tower, I just think the thought behind it is a little truncated...Is that the BEST choice for a single image that represents the park?... Disney Springs is also going to have a water tower as it's symbol...Celebration has a water tower as it's symbol... Surely there are other icons that immediately mean "The Golden Age Of Hollywood"...like a fabulous Movie Palace perhaps?

Well the concept of the park is that it's a movie studio, at one time it was a working studio, all the show buildings are themed to look like sound stages, and water towers were, and in a lot a cases still are, the symbol for film studios. The fact that most people don't know that, or don't immediately understand that, is really their problem, I mean how many people refer to Spaceship Earth as a big golf ball, but I think the water tower + the big Mickey Mouse Ears, is a pretty good symbol for the "Disney Hollywood Studio's" park, I think maybe they should have moved it some place "inside" the park... but the Hollywood sign is probably the best bet, not sure why they never used that anywhere
 
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Jakester

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Original Poster
1. While standing at American Idol for FP, I was visualizing the BAH behind the Animation Building, I personally don't think it would be too bad to be placed there.

2: I will say, the (IMO) best way to experience RNR is without ANY lights on inside the show building, it likes Space Mountain on Steroids.
 

Bocabear

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Well the concept of the park is that it's a movie studio, at one time it was a working studio, all the show buildings are themed to look like sound stages, and water towers were, and in a lot a cases still are, the symbol for film studios. The fact that most people don't know that, or don't immediately understand that, is really their problem, I mean how many people refer to Spaceship Earth as a big golf ball, but I think the water tower + the big Mickey Mouse Ears, is a pretty good symbol for the "Disney Hollywood Studio's" park, I think maybe they should have moved it some place "inside" the park... but the Hollywood sign is probably the best bet, not sure why they never used that anywhere
Wait, Water Towers have always been the symbol for Movie Studios and still are? Until Disney built the Earful Tower, I never saw a Water Tower as a symbol of the film industry...
 

Californian Elitist

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I wouldn't necessarily say water towers symbolize movie studios, however, some of them are iconic.

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tl77

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Iconic, possibly but looking for a symbol to identify a theme park as a base of Movie Making and Magic... Water Tower? really?

The problem with this theme park is that movies are magical and glamorous, but the studios where they made are not. Movie studios are just giant, utilitarian, warehouses, they don't spend any money making the outsides of soundstages look pretty, but they spend a ton of money making the sets inside the soundstages look pretty.

The water towers are just another utilitarian thing that's only there to make sure the rest of the place doesn't burn down, and since movie executives love saving money where ever they can, they use the water towers as free advertising for themselves.

Hollywood is like a warehouse district, that manufactures a product, and then that product get's exported around the world... It's like building a theme park about people's love of automobiles, and theming it to look like Detroit... It's just really hard to make the reality of Hollywood as romantic as that storybook castle in the center of the Magic Kingdom
 

BryceM

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I actually really love Disney's Hollywood Studios (I feel obligated to type DHS, but I really want to type MGM). I think the park is truly magical, especially at nighttime down Sunset and Hollywood Boulevards. It also has some of the best attractions ever created. I would really like them to acknowledge the 25th.
 

COProgressFan

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I wouldn't necessarily say water towers symbolize movie studios, however, some of them are iconic.

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Glad to see Disney Studios in in CA maintains things about as well as TDO. :rolleyes:

(Doesn't anyone of importance on the Disney lot see the massive areas of peeling paint on that thing?!)
 

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