News Disneyland Resort To Be A Major OC Vaccination Site-OCR

TP2000

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Then its not a good site.

I just caught this line about parking from the article...

Staff and volunteers will be on hand to help visitors from the campus parking structure off Wood Canyon Drive to a gym nearby, where vaccines will take place.

Go Lions!


I looked on Google maps, and also found this campus photo. The 4 level parking structure is directly across from the gym. On Google maps it's about a 150 foot walk along the sidewalk/crosswalk from the parking structure elevators to the gym doors. The gym (the Lions Den?) is circled in red, the parking structure is circled in blue.

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What's interesting is that this Soka University Supersite has combined two elements that some folks here felt was unsafe and/or unmanageable; indoor vaccinations and parking structures, and bundled them into one vaccine experience for the elderly and infirm in Phase 1A and 1B.

But at least the folks at Soka U. will be out of the rain, and only have to get across the street in 150 feet and don't have to maneuver the 1,500+ foot walk from your car to the tent city and back to your car in the Toy Story Parking Lot at Disneyland. In the rain.
 
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TP2000

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And what happens when other states start getting more shipments as manufacturing of the vaccine increases? Then that number will drop down again. Its a stupid stat to pay attention to, because supply is always going to be up and down.

You really should reach out to the New York Times, Washington Post, Fortune, Bloomberg, CNN, LA Times, and all the other news organizations tracking those Covid Vaccine statistics.

You need to let them know they apparently have it all wrong journalistically. ;)



 

Disney Irish

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You really should reach out to the New York Times, Washington Post, Fortune, Bloomberg, CNN, LA Times, and all the other news organizations tracking those Covid Vaccine statistics.

You need to let them know they apparently have it all wrong journalistically. ;)



No reason for me to do that. Its a tangible metric to report on, especially in these early days of the vaccine distribution when supplies are minimal. However as time goes on and vaccine manufacturing increases its not going to be a sustainable metric to use. Which is why I suggest you stop using it if you really want to track the progress of the state.

The real metric to use is the number of fully vaccinated people in the state. If we look at that California, per capita, is in the middle at around 22 with a .82%. Whereas your favorite state Alabama is still near the bottom at 45 with .51%.

Because again the point is to get people fully vaccinated so the pandemic is over.
 

BrianLo

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No reason for me to do that. Its a tangible metric to report on, especially in these early days of the vaccine distribution when supplies are minimal. However as time goes on and vaccine manufacturing increases its not going to be a sustainable metric to use. Which is why I suggest you stop using it if you really want to track the progress of the state.

The real metric to use is the number of fully vaccinated people in the state. If we look at that California, per capita, is in the middle at around 22 with a .82%. Whereas your favorite state Alabama is still near the bottom at 45 with .51%.

Because again the point is to get people fully vaccinated so the pandemic is over.

Indeed, it's just a lack of critical thinking skills and understanding; add to that an overtly loaded agenda and people will look for whatever statistic suits the narrative.

If the goal was just to blow through the supply, well some Canadian provinces have been hitting mid 90%. But that's actually reflective of the fact we have a relatively poor supply compared to the US. Those won't make the list though because that is not the list used to make Canada look bad. This is not a meaningful statistic. I'd rather we were California (or Yes, any State). Strictly from a vaccine supply perspective.

A Sarcastic hurray we're number 5, but everyone will make significant gains in the middle of this vaccine race once things are distributed more equitably. I'd still prefer to be in Japan/Australia/New Zealand overall.

By all means the US definitely has one of the best supply lines of the current vaccine candidates. But it's also 183rd for deaths per million. A terribly inconvenient reality. From a "needs" perspective, the US does ironically deserve it. From a global perspective we're getting the highest yield in the US and UK right now.
 

Travel Junkie

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By all means the US definitely has one of the best supply lines of the current vaccine candidates. But it's also 183rd for deaths per million. A terribly inconvenient reality. From a "needs" perspective, the US does ironically deserve it. From a global perspective we're getting the highest yield in the US and UK right now.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding was that a few countries like the US bought their way to the front of the line. Even places like Japan aren't vaccinating yet, because their supply is limited. Smaller countries can't outbid the likes of the US and UK.

From talking to some friends and contacts that live in developing countries, there is real concern that the rich countries bought up the supply and will begin foreign travel to places where the the local population is not vaccinated as they are still waiting for more supply to hit the market. With there being a question about whether a vaccinated person can still transmit the virus to others, these foreign toursits may flood in and bring the virus with them.
 

BrianLo

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding was that a few countries like the US bought their way to the front of the line. Even places like Japan aren't vaccinating yet, because their supply is limited. Smaller countries can't outbid the likes of the US and UK.

From talking to some friends and contacts that live in developing countries, there is real concern that the rich countries bought up the supply and will begin foreign travel to places where the the local population is not vaccinated as they are still waiting for more supply to hit the market. With there being a question about whether a vaccinated person can still transmit the virus to others, these foreign toursits may flood in and bring the virus with them.

Yes it’s absolutely about procurement and money. There is 100 percent an equity disparity that favors G20 countries vaccinating first; which is a huge ethical problem.

I just meant to say looking on the sort of bright side, it’s also some of those world powers that happen to be the worse affected. Which is a bit unusual for a health crisis. So even though it isn’t equitable, it’s slightly more needs based distribution by accident.
 

TP2000

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Bloomberg finally just updated their Vaccine Tracking site a few minutes ago for Tuesday. The delay seems to be related to a bunch more information they are now offering. California has now received just over 4.9 Million doses of vaccine delivered to them by the Feds as of yesterday.

The USA's seven day rolling average for daily shots given to Americans rose today to 1.3 Million shots per day.

Let's track the changes as of close of business Tuesday, January 26th with our favorite five states, shall we?

#3 West Virginia = 76.5% of Doses Used (212,875)
#19 Michigan = 59.0% of Doses Used (760,066)
#25 Texas = 57.4% of Doses Used (1,917,896)
#34 Florida = 52.4% of Doses Used (1,622,421)
#47 California = 48.5% of Doses Used (2,587,736)


Another metric that Bloomberg is now tracking as of today is the percent of state residents given at least one shot, and state residents given both shots. That second metric gets a little tricky, because about two dozen states are all tied at around 1.0% to 1.2%, while the first dose metric has a much wider spread among the states. So we'll track this as Bloomberg does by ranking of first dose, but also note the percentage of each state for their second dose percentage.

Our five favorite states we've been tracking for a few weeks now, as of Tuesday...

#2 West Virginia = 9.4% Residents Given 1 Shot, 2.4% Residents Given 2 Shots
#11 Florida = 6.7% Residents Given 1 Shot, 0.8% Residents Given 2 Shots
#17 Michigan = 6.3% Residents Given 1 Shot, 1.3% Residents Given 2 Shots
#34 Texas = 5.6% of Residents Given 1 Shot, 1.0% Residents Given 2 Shots
#41 California = 5.2% of Residents Given 1 Shot, 1.0% Residents Given 2 Shots.


 

TP2000

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If the goal was just to blow through the supply, well some Canadian provinces have been hitting mid 90%. But that's actually reflective of the fact we have a relatively poor supply compared to the US. Those won't make the list though because that is not the list used to make Canada look bad. This is not a meaningful statistic. I'd rather we were California (or Yes, any State). Strictly from a vaccine supply perspective.

The numbers from Canada are also tracked by Bloomberg per Province. It's an easy metric to find, compliments of Health Canada.

I'm not sure what you mean by some Canadian provinces "hitting mid 90%". Did you mean of their limited supply? Nunavut and the Northwest Territories are the highest rated provinces, but also some of the most sparsely populated places on earth, and their total numbers involve only 15,000 doses total. That's fifteen thousand, both provinces combined, out of Canada's total administered doses of 865,000.

The Canadian breakdown versus the United States is as follows, with provinces broken down further as of Tuesday, January 26th from the information Bloomberg got from Health Canada.

USA = 24,483,819 Shots Given, 7.45 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 6.2% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
Canada = 865,139 Shots Given, 2.31 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 1.4% of Citizens Given 1 Shot

  • P.E.I = 7,117 Shots Given, 4.45 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 3.3% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • Saskatchewan = 34,080 Shots Given, 2.91 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.4% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • Quebec = 224,879 Shots Given, 2.65 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.3% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • B.C. = 119,850 Shots Given, 2.36 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.3% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • Manitoba = 31,369 Shots Given, 2.29 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.0% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • Alberta = 99,453 Shots Given, 2.28 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.1% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • Ontario = 295,817 Shots Given, 2.04 Doses Per 100 Citzens, 1.3% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • Maritimes = 33,000 Shots Given, 1.6 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 1.1% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
So, it's really Ontario as the most populous province with the worst performance that drags all of Canada down a bit. Ontario is to Canada what California is to the USA; it's the weakest link with a huge population that is dragging all the other big population centers down quite a bit.

 

BrianLo

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The numbers from Canada are also tracked by Bloomberg per Province. It's an easy metric to find, compliments of Health Canada.

I'm not sure what you mean by some Canadian provinces "hitting mid 90%". Did you mean of their limited supply? Nunavut and the Northwest Territories are the highest rated provinces, but also some of the most sparsely populated places on earth, and their total numbers involve only 15,000 doses total. That's fifteen thousand, both provinces combined, out of Canada's total administered doses of 865,000.

The Canadian breakdown versus the United States is as follows, with provinces broken down further as of Tuesday, January 26th from the information Bloomberg got from Health Canada.

USA = 24,483,819 Shots Given, 7.45 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 6.2% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
Canada = 865,139 Shots Given, 2.31 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 1.4% of Citizens Given 1 Shot

  • P.E.I = 7,117 Shots Given, 4.45 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 3.3% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • Saskatchewan = 34,080 Shots Given, 2.91 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.4% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • Quebec = 224,879 Shots Given, 2.65 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.3% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • B.C. = 119,850 Shots Given, 2.36 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.3% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • Manitoba = 31,369 Shots Given, 2.29 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.0% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • Alberta = 99,453 Shots Given, 2.28 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.1% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • Ontario = 295,817 Shots Given, 2.04 Doses Per 100 Citzens, 1.3% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
  • Maritimes = 33,000 Shots Given, 1.6 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 1.1% of Citizens Given 1 Shot
So, it's really Ontario as the most populous province with the worst performance that drags all of Canada down a bit. Ontario is to Canada what California is to the USA; it's the weakest link with a huge population that is dragging all the other big population centers down quite a bit.


I meant in terms of usage of doses provided. Not total population vaccinated. What you posted about at the start of your previous post (California utilized 48.5%).

Currently Pfizer’s supply has totally been cut off in Canada due to a reconfiguration of the Belgium plant so I do expect our numbers will worsen, unfortunately. Hopefully temporary, but it’s a mess.
 

TP2000

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Yes it’s absolutely about procurement and money. There is 100 percent an equity disparity that favors G20 countries vaccinating first; which is a huge ethical problem.

I would respectfully disagree with you that citizens like me living proudly and patriotically in the richest and most powerful G20 nation is an "ethical problem", but that's another topic for another glass of weeknight wine. :D

As for the G20, there is a glaring disparity between all 20 nations. Now, of course, there's a glaring disparity between the bulk of the G20 as capitalist, free nations with democratically elected governments and two oddball G20 members who are nearly the exact opposite of that; Russia and Communist China. But let's just throw the Ruskies and the Red Chinese in there anyway, just for the fun of it.

The glaring disparity is how the UK and the USA are running away with first and second place on the world stage, while all the other rich nations are trailing behind.

Or a handful of rich nations that haven't even begun vaccinating yet and wont' begin for several more months; Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Japan, South Africa, etc.

Here is the current Vaccination Rates for the G20 Nations as of Tuesday, January 26th (from their respective national health authorities/departments, so take it with a grain of salt when it comes to Communists or former Communists).

What is the UK's and/or Boris Johnson's secret?!? Anyone know? The UK is like the West Virginia of Europe!

#1 United Kingdom = 11.0 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 10.3% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
#2 United States = 7.5 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 6.2% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
#3 Italy = 2.4 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.4% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
#4 Germany = 2.3 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.0% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
#5 Canada = 2.3 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 1.4% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
#6 France = 1.8 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 1.8% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
#7 Turkey = 1.7 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 1.7% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
#8 China = 1.1 Doses Per 100 Citizens, N/A Population That's Received One Dose
#9 Saudi Arabia = 0.8 Doses Per 100 Citizens, N/A Population That's Received One Dose
#10 Argentina = 0.7 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 0.6% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
#11 Russia = 0.5 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 0.5% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
#12 Mexico = 0.5 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 0.5% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
#13 Brazil = 0.3 Doses Per 100 Citizens, N/A Population That's Received One Dose
#14 India = 0.2 Doses Per 100 Citizens, N/A Population That's Received One Dose
#15 Indonesia = 0.1 Doses Per 100 Citizens, N/A Population That's Received One Dose


Then there's the remaining four G20 nations that have not yet begun vaccinating their citizens and have no meaningful vaccine supply available to them until later this spring; Australia, Japan, South Korea, South Africa.

Lest we think these European G20 nations are aberrations of bad policy, here's a few non G20 nations that are still very wealthy and very advanced Western nations and how they stack up to the good 'ol USA as of Tuesday:

United States = 7.5 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 6.2% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
Denmark = 3.7 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 3.2% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
Spain = 2.8 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 2.5% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
Switzerland = 2.3 Doses Per 100 Citizens, N/A Population Has Received One Dose
Belgium = 1.9 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 1.9% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
Norway = 1.5 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 1.5% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose
Netherlands = 1.0 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 1.1% of Population Has Received At Least One Dose


A few of those European nations have higher death rates than the USA, but are still lagging far behind on vaccinating their countrymen. Why? How'd that happen? Are the citizens there cool with that? And for the insanely high taxes they pay to live there???...

 

TP2000

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Currently Pfizer’s supply has totally been cut off in Canada due to a reconfiguration of the Belgium plant so I do expect our numbers will worsen, unfortunately. Hopefully temporary, but it’s a mess.

I just caught that comment, but.... What?!? The Pfizer plant supplying vaccine to Canada is being "reconfigured"??? What does that mean? Like a refurbishment where they install Johnny Depp animatronics into a ride that didn't need them?

So, Canada is not receiving vaccine supply from a Pfizer plant in Belgium? Is there not a vaccine manufacturer on solid Canadian soil to use instead? We fought a World War against fascism and Socialism using the great might and spirit of the Canadian people safely separated from Europe by an ocean. Now Canadians are relying on a Belgian vaccine factory that is closed for refurbishment right as mass vaccinations ramp up?

I'm baffled. That can't be right. It just can't. o_O
 

Disney Irish

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Bloomberg finally just updated their Vaccine Tracking site a few minutes ago for Tuesday. The delay seems to be related to a bunch more information they are now offering. California has now received just over 4.9 Million doses of vaccine delivered to them by the Feds as of yesterday.

The USA's seven day rolling average for daily shots given to Americans rose today to 1.3 Million shots per day.

Let's track the changes as of close of business Tuesday, January 26th with our favorite five states, shall we?

#3 West Virginia = 76.5% of Doses Used (212,875)
#19 Michigan = 59.0% of Doses Used (760,066)
#25 Texas = 57.4% of Doses Used (1,917,896)
#34 Florida = 52.4% of Doses Used (1,622,421)
#47 California = 48.5% of Doses Used (2,587,736)


Another metric that Bloomberg is now tracking as of today is the percent of state residents given at least one shot, and state residents given both shots. That second metric gets a little tricky, because about two dozen states are all tied at around 1.0% to 1.2%, while the first dose metric has a much wider spread among the states. So we'll track this as Bloomberg does by ranking of first dose, but also note the percentage of each state for their second dose percentage.

Our five favorite states we've been tracking for a few weeks now, as of Tuesday...

#2 West Virginia = 9.4% Residents Given 1 Shot, 2.4% Residents Given 2 Shots
#11 Florida = 6.7% Residents Given 1 Shot, 0.8% Residents Given 2 Shots
#17 Michigan = 6.3% Residents Given 1 Shot, 1.3% Residents Given 2 Shots
#34 Texas = 5.6% of Residents Given 1 Shot, 1.0% Residents Given 2 Shots
#41 California = 5.2% of Residents Given 1 Shot, 1.0% Residents Given 2 Shots.


Once again incorrect even when using Bloomberg's own data, a site you love to use.

California ranks 39th in 1 shot given at 5.2% and 33rd in 2 shots given at 1.0%. So you get points for giving the correct percentages but negative overall for the rankings, because math.

It should be easy now that everything is laid out for you, just toggle on each of the metric and it'll sort it for you.

Also Bloomberg even posts an update on why California ranks low on the "percentage used" metric that you love to tout, so even that you are incorrect:

"California has consistently ranked at the bottom of U.S. states the percentage of vaccines used.

As of Sunday evening’s update, the state had received 4.91 million doses of Covid-19 vaccine delivered, according to the CDC, and had used only 2.32 million — less than 50%.

The state says missing data may be to blame — specifically that many of the people giving vaccines on the front lines aren’t correctly logging them in the state’s records.

California Department of Public Health Director Tomás Aragón says the state knows that doses were being used, but hadn’t figured out why they weren’t showing up in its counts. So it launched a review to find out what was going on.

“On the Bloomberg Index we were ranked low and so we’re thinking: Oh, what’s happening?” Aragón said in an interview Friday. “What we were hearing on the ground, people were telling us, we need more vaccine.”

A state team found that many vaccines administered were not being reported. Some health clinics were using a records system that requires them to click a “submit” button at the end of the day -- and they were forgetting to do so. Other providers using paper forms weren’t typing them up because it took too long. (Each form includes 40 data fields.)

“A lot of these were just piling up. So now we’re working really hard to get those entered,” Aragón said.

California’s numbers are starting to improve. Instead of dead last, the state has moved up to sixth from the bottom compared to other states, as of Sunday’s count. (Kansas ranks last among states, with 43% of delivered vaccines used. The U.S. average is 54%. Some states have used more than 80%.)

Aragón said California might eliminate paper records except in situations where it’s absolutely necessary. It’s also in the process of rolling out a new system from Salesforce and Accenture that will feed directly into the state immunization registry."

 

TP2000

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Once again incorrect even when using Bloomberg's own data, a site you love to use.

California ranks 39th in 1 shot given at 5.2% and 33rd in 2 shots given at 1.0%. So you get points for giving the correct percentages but negative overall for the rankings, because math.

I think you got the same confusion I did at first. The Bloomberg site lists non-states in there among the states, so you have to filter that out when you count. Bloomberg has "Federal Entities" between New York and Pennsylvania; stuff like Indian Health Service and Federal Prisons all lumped into one and counted like a state. Plus there's Puerto Rico and Washington DC in there, which also are not states.

So California, ranked among the 49 other states, is at #47 or #41, depending on the category.
California’s numbers are starting to improve. Instead of dead last, the state has moved up to sixth from the bottom compared to other states, as of Sunday’s count.

Hooray for almost rising into lower-mediocrity! If we aren't careful, we'll reach mid-mediocrity by Easter! ;)

Go California, Beat Alabama!
 

Disney Irish

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I think you got the same confusion I did at first. The Bloomberg site lists non-states in there among the states, so you have to filter that out when you count. Bloomberg has "Federal Entities" between New York and Pennsylvania; stuff like Indian Health Service and Federal Prisons all lumped into one and counted like a state. Plus there's Puerto Rico and Washington DC in there, which also are not states.

So California, ranked among the 49 other states, is at #47 or #41, depending on the category.
I was off by one, but let me make it easy for you, when sorting by 1st shot rankings:

40 - California 2,587,736 5.2% 1.0% 160,527 48.5%
41 - South Carolina 317,211 5.2% 0.9% 18,577 61.0%
42 - Iowa 197,982 5.2% 1.0% 7,575 54.8%
43 - Minnesota 360,442 5.1% 1.3% 15,558 52.3%
44 - Wisconsin 362,505 5.0% 1.2% 16,331 52.9%
45 - Illinois 737,989 4.7% 1.2% 30,390 47.6%
46 - Nevada 164,362 4.6% 0.7% 8,789 48.6%
47 - Alabama 266,306 4.6% 0.6% 16,803 46.8%
48 - Idaho 96,896 4.5% 0.9% 3,928 52.7%
49 - Kansas 158,743 4.5% 0.9% 5,758 45.6%
50 - Missouri 356,310 4.5% 1.3% 17,151 53.6%

And when sorting by 2nd shot rankings:

34 - California 2,587,736 5.2% 1.0% 160,527 48.5%
35 - Massachusetts 442,703 5.5% 1.0% 17,689 50.5%
36 - South Carolina 317,211 5.2% 0.9% 18,577 61.0%
37 - North Carolina 728,148 6.0% 0.9% 38,462 58.2%
38 - New Jersey 605,397 5.9% 0.9% 29,321 55.5%
39 - Wyoming 41,339 6.3% 0.9% 1,897 57.6%
40 - Kansas 158,743 4.5% 0.9% 5,758 45.6%
41 - Idaho 96,896 4.5% 0.9% 3,928 52.7%
42 - Virginia 594,828 5.8% 0.9% 36,206 50.7%
43 - Florida 1,622,421 6.7% 0.8% 63,962 52.4%
44 - Maryland 396,661 5.8% 0.8% 18,715 50.4%
45 - Nevada 164,362 4.6% 0.7% 8,789 48.6%
46 - Ohio 708,026 5.6% 0.7% 33,706 50.3%
47 - Kentucky 312,192 6.3% 0.7% 12,965 56.0%
48 - Alabama 266,306 4.6% 0.6% 16,803 46.8%
49 - Georgia 674,967 5.6% 0.6% 35,994 51.5%
50 - Mississippi 193,429 5.9% 0.6% 9,961 52.0%

So California is doing a lot better than you've given the state credit for. And it'll only get better as more sites come online like the new "super site" in San Francisco and the new one in OC that you mentioned last week.

California is doing on average now over 150k shots per day. And by mid-February I don't see why we can't hit 250k per day.

Hooray for almost rising into lower-mediocrity! If we aren't careful, we'll reach mid-mediocrity by Easter! ;)

Go California, Beat Alabama!
Again you missed the whole point, that a data error is the cause for all your contempt against California. And shortly things will "improve" so you can stop with this contempt. Also as pointed out previously its a metric that shouldn't be followed due to it going to be useless once production ramps up here in a couple weeks.
 

TP2000

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Again you missed the whole point, that a data error is the cause for all your contempt against California. And shortly things will "improve" so you can stop with this contempt. Also as pointed out previously its a metric that shouldn't be followed due to it going to be useless once production ramps up here in a couple weeks.

It's odd, but I appreciate you and the chats we have here! :)

The Othena App in Orange County is a mess. I said a week ago that if all the people I know who are in Phase 1A don't get news within a week via the Othena App, there would be frustration and anger. And a week later, that has now happened. And the media caught wind of it.

My text group of all other Phase 1A friends still haven't got a single bit of info or communication from Othena. Two people I know with very good doctor's at Mission Hospital got a direct phone call this week to come get their first shot in the doctor's office. I also got an invitation, but declined it because I know people are nervous and I don't want to take their shot. Plus I'm waiting for the Johnson&Johnson shot.

Although, once I heard from them how their appointment went, I maybe should have just gone and done it to get it over with. It was very streamlined and easy at Mission, and both people got cards with the appointment dates/time for their second shot since Mission automatically reserves a second shot for you once you get your first. They were in and out in under 20 minutes. And yes @lazyboy97o, this mass vaccination event was shockingly held INDOORS! With convenient parking in a 5 level parking garage.

But overall, the Supersites in OC are not very efficient and the Othena App is also not very communicative. It was also revealed today that the Othena website and App is only available in English, and has no Spanish or Vietnamese option. :rolleyes:

 

Disney Irish

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It's odd, but I appreciate you and the chats we have here! :)

The Othena App in Orange County is a mess. I said a week ago that if all the people I know who are in Phase 1A don't get news within a week via the Othena App, there would be frustration and anger. And a week later, that has now happened. And the media caught wind of it.

My text group of all other Phase 1A friends still haven't got a single bit of info or communication from Othena. Two people I know with very good doctor's at Mission Hospital got a direct phone call this week to come get their first shot in the doctor's office. I also got an invitation, but declined it because I know people are nervous and I don't want to take their shot. Plus I'm waiting for the Johnson&Johnson shot.

Although, once I heard from them how their appointment went, I maybe should have just gone and done it to get it over with. It was very streamlined and easy at Mission, and both people got cards with the appointment dates/time for their second shot since Mission automatically reserves a second shot for you once you get your first. They were in and out in under 20 minutes. And yes @lazyboy97o, this mass vaccination event was shockingly held INDOORS! With convenient parking in a 5 level parking garage.

But overall, the Supersites in OC are not very efficient and the Othena App is also not very communicative. It was also revealed today that the Othena website and App is only available in English, and has no Spanish or Vietnamese option. :rolleyes:

Well then maybe your contempt should be directed at OC Health Officials and their partner that THEY chose CuraPatient who runs Othena not Sacramento.

Also if daily numbers keep improving like they have we'll be hitting over 250k daily vaccinations by mid-February if not sooner, we're at over 180k now. Supply is the only thing that would hold that up, as is the case in ALL states. The use of the Defense Production Act should hopefully help with that. And again remember that there is zero vaccines being stored by the State, its all at the counties. So any supply that is not used is at the fault of the local counties NOT Sacramento.

And speaking of the J&J vaccine, once that gets approved (assuming it does) that is when Walgreens and CVS can really move into action. As you are probably aware by now the J&J vaccine is a single dose requiring no deep cold freezer for storage, meaning easier for places like Walgreens and CVS to handle appointments.

Point is that even though its been a slow start and there have been issues things are improving, and quickly. We're still on track to get most of the state vaccinated by mid-summer if not sooner.

But as for your complaints about Othena, I suggest you contact the OC Health Department and complain. Because that isn't the State's doing, that is 100% all on OC.
 

George Lucas on a Bench

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No one I know has been able to get the vaccine aside from the two people in the "Medical Industry", my buddy who works at a rehab and doesn't meet with clients in person and my clerk at Target Optical.
 

ToTBellHop

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No one I know has been able to get the vaccine aside from the two people in the "Medical Industry", my buddy who works at a rehab and doesn't meet with clients in person and my clerk at Target Optical.
Move to West Virginia where reportedly every Happy Meal now comes with TWO doses of the Moderna vaccine along with apple slices (cookies available on request).
 

Practical Pig

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My 65 year-old brother just got his first vaccination in Sacramento. It happened in the staging area in the parking lot of Jesuit High School. The field ops were routing cars through their checkpoints and jabbing people without them having to get out of their cars. About ten cars in a batch and processing 7-8 batches at a time. After waiting 15 minutes afterwards for possible adverse reactions, he drove away with his CDC covid passport confirming his first dose, which vaccine, and the vaccine lot's batch number.

Again, without having to leave his car.
 

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