News Disneyland Resort To Be A Major OC Vaccination Site-OCR

Practical Pig

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Are you in LA? I know the Dodger Stadium Supersite has a drive-thru operation.

It was apparent to me that this Soka University gym setup was noticeably superior to the pop-up tents they are using at the Disneyland parking lot. Especially during the rainy season. Anything indoors is vastly superior to a pop-up tent complex in a parking lot.

But yes, a drive-thru option would be the best. Or just walking into your local CVS or WalGreens or Target pharmacy.

No, I'm up here in Humboldt waiting for us to get past vaccinating the 75 and over. I'm disappointed in Disney's management of their site, after initial optimism due to their crowd management "expertise." But it seems like there are too many cooks in that kitchen.
 

TP2000

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No, I'm up here in Humboldt waiting for us to get past vaccinating the 75 and over. I'm disappointed in Disney's management of their site, after initial optimism due to their crowd management "expertise." But it seems like there are too many cooks in that kitchen.

Oh, of course. Humboldt. We've talked about that before! My brain gets foggy after sundown. :rolleyes:

Disney isn't involved in the Supersite, other than letting the government authorities use their vacant parking lots. I think it was @el_super who mentioned that TDA/Burbank was a bit concerned about that because the media and most people now consider Disneyland to be giving out vaccines and running the show. And they aren't, they just volunteered their unused parking lots as a bit of goodwill.

But everyone I know has connected "Disneyland" with "vaccine". The word is also out on how logistically tough it is to maneuver the Disneyland Supersite. My friend today specifically wanted to go to Soka, even though Disneyland is closer to her, because the Disneyland site has a bad reputation of being too big and too exposed to the elements and winter weather.

Thus, I semi-volunteered to drive her down to Aliso Viejo, since she doesn't like to drive on the freeways. But I got a fantastic cheesecake and a fun afternoon out of the deal.
 

Communicora

Premium Member
Oh, of course. Humboldt. We've talked about that before! My brain gets foggy after sundown. :rolleyes:

Disney isn't involved in the Supersite, other than letting the government authorities use their vacant parking lots. I think it was @el_super who mentioned that TDA/Burbank was a bit concerned about that because the media and most people now consider Disneyland to be giving out vaccines and running the show. And they aren't, they just volunteered their unused parking lots as a bit of goodwill.

But everyone I know has connected "Disneyland" with "vaccine". The word is also out on how logistically tough it is to maneuver the Disneyland Supersite. My friend today specifically wanted to go to Soka, even though Disneyland is closer to her, because the Disneyland site has a bad reputation of being too big and too exposed to the elements and winter weather.

Thus, I semi-volunteered to drive her down to Aliso Viejo, since she doesn't like to drive on the freeways. But I got a fantastic cheesecake and a fun afternoon out of the deal.
That sounds like a nice set up. I hope you give in and sign up for your jab soon!
 

TP2000

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That sounds like a nice set up. I hope you give in and sign up for your jab soon!

I'm listening this week for Johnson&Johnson news, but I may. I'm still more comfortable with the traditional killed virus vaccines, rather than the new DNA vaccines that the Pfizer and Moderna ones are all about.


Soka was remarkably easy and well run, for such a high-capacity operation giving thousands of shots per hour. Go Lions!

I got a very nice email from my friend's son this morning, thanking me for my chauffeur skills. The email was effusive, quite frankly.

I can now see what she means; she wasn't that concerned about Covid but apparently her children out of state were very worried about it.
 
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Stevek

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I'm listening this week for Johnson&Johnson news, but I may. I'm still more comfortable with the traditional killed virus vaccines, rather than the new DNA vaccines that the Pfizer and Moderna ones are all about.
They have nothing to do with DNA.

 

lazyboy97o

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They have nothing to do with DNA.

And the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is not an inactivated vaccine. It actually does used modified DNA in an adenovirus that eventually causes your own cells to produce the spike protein like the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna directly deliver the mRNA that causes your body to make the spike protein while Johnson & Johnson uses DNA in an adenovirus to create that mRNA. It is also a technological breakthrough with there only being one approved adenovirus vaccine, a recently approved Ebola vaccine.

 

TP2000

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It’s like you are compelled to post misinformation.

Thank goodness you are here with your multiple Doctorate degrees in epidemiology, genetic science, virology, urban planning, and Disneyland trivia to keep me on the straight and narrow! :D

I so apologize for typing "DNA" instead of "RNA". I hope no one at Fullerton Junior College failed their mid-term test on DNA because of my error.

Or was the mid-term on RNA, instead? No matter... Go Hornets!

I am not a doctor, I am not a politician, I am not an epidemiologist (which I didn't even know how to spell, much less use in a sentence, until 2020 crashed down upon us).

But don't worry, my friend. I'll keep posting my casual thoughts and half-baked ideas and basic life experiences on this discussion forum, and you can keep correcting them! Deal? ;)
 

lazyboy97o

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Thank goodness you are here with your multiple Doctorate degrees in epidemiology, genetic science, virology, urban planning, and Disneyland trivia to keep me on the straight and narrow! :D

I so apologize for typing "DNA" instead of "RNA". I hope no one at Fullerton Junior College failed their mid-term test on DNA because of my error.

Or was the mid-term on RNA, instead? No matter... Go Hornets!

I am not a doctor, I am not a politician, I am not an epidemiologist (which I didn't even know how to spell, much less use in a sentence, until 2020 crashed down upon us).

But don't worry, my friend. I'll keep posting my casual thoughts and half-baked ideas and basic life experiences on this discussion forum, and you can keep correcting them! Deal? ;)
Or a self-titled “news junkie” could read major global news more carefully and put in a minimal amount of effort at understanding. And it’s not just DNA vs RNA that you got wrong.
 

TP2000

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Speaking of discussing things on a discussion forum, let's update the hard data and government stats on vaccine distribution, shall we? It's been about a week since we did that (I've been busy), and it's an interesting part of this ongoing discussion.

In general, the United States continues to be way ahead of most other nations in the Free World.

And ahead of quite a few nations in the Not So Free World, also. USA! USA! USA!

As of Monday, February 1st, here's how the big, wealthy, western nations stand, and the USA is second only to the UK as we continue to lead the world together!

The United States, over the last week in January, averaged 1.35 Million vaccine shots per day into the arms of Americans. Slightly higher than the third week in January, but on that upward trajectory we've been on all month. The USA also leads in the tally of Americans already given both shots.

United Kingdom = 15 Doses Per 100 Citizens, 13.9% Citizens Given One Shot, 0.7% Given Two Shots
United States = 10 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 8.1% Citizens Given One Shot, 1.9% Given Two Shots
Spain = 3.5 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 2.7% Citizens Given One Shot, 0.8% Given Two Shots
Italy = 3.3 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 2.2% Citizens Given One Shot, 0.7% Given Two Shots
Poland = 3.1 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 2.6% Citizens Given One Shot, 0.5% Given Two Shots
Germany = 3.0 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 2.3% Citizens Given One Shot, 0.6% Given Two Shots
Canada = 2.6 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 1.6% Citizens Given One Shot, 0.3% Given Two Shots
Belgium = 2.6 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 2.4% Citizens Given One Shot, 0.2% Given Two Shots
France = 2.4 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 2.3% Citizens Given One Shot, 0.1% Given Two Shots
Austria = 2.3 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 2.1% Citizens Given One Shot, 0.1% Given Two Shots
Sweden = 2.2 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 2.2% Citizens Given One Shot, 0.2% Given Two Shots
Argentina = 0.8 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 0.6% Citizens Given One Shot, 0.2% Given Two Shots

Mexico = 0.5 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 0.5% Citizens Given One Shot, 0.0% Given Two Shots
Russia = 0.5 Doses Given Per 100 Citizens, 0.5% Citizens Given One Shot, N/A Given Two Shots


And again, then there are the big wealthy countries mostly in Asia and the South Pacific who haven't even started vaccinating their citizens and have no meaningful supply of vaccine in their countries yet; Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, etc.

 
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TP2000

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Or a self-titled “news junkie” could read major global news more carefully and put in a minimal amount of effort at understanding. And it’s not just DNA vs RNA that you got wrong.

I am a news junkie, I visit realclearpolitics.com every morning with my coffee, and I love to Google things I don't know!

You know what's funny about that? On Sunday morning I literally Googled what the school colors were for Soka University so I would know what to wear to the vaccination.

Their colors are blue and gold. And I looked great in that gym! Like a famous alumnus come home to roost. :cool:
 
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TP2000

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Back home in the good 'ol US of A, thanks to our 250 year old constitutional republic, each state is mostly responsible for the health and welfare of their state citizens, with some help and kickback funding from the Feds since LBJ was in office.

Let's look at how the 50 nifty states are faring, shall we?

Buck up California fans, because the Golden State has moved up from dead last place, or even 49th, and is now in the top 40 of all 50 states! Millions and millions of doses from the Feds continue to be delivered to the states weekly, based on their population size. We're in the Top 40! Before we know it, we'll be on American Bandstand.🕺

Again, from Bloomberg, as of Monday evening, the five states we've been tracking in this thread...

#3 West Virginia = 86.1% Doses Used, 10.9% Population Given 1 Shot, 3.8% Population Given 2 Shots
#13 Michigan = 73.8% Doses Used, 8.0% Population Given 1 Shot, 2.0% Population Given 2 Shots
#24 Texas = 68.2% Doses Used, 6.9% Population Given 1 Shot, 1.7% Population Given 2 Shots
#38 California = 62.2% Doses Used, 7.2% Population Given 1 Shot, 1.5% Population Given 2 Shots
#44 Florida = 59.9% Doses Used, 8.0% Population Given 1 Shot, 1.5% Population Given 2 Shots



The good news there is that after a month of mass vaccinations even a poorly performing state like California or Florida, in the bottom quarter percentile of 50 states, is still many times more effective at getting shots into arms than entire countries like Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Sweden, Italy, etc., etc.

California, Population 39.5 Million = 7.2% Population Given 1 Shot, 1.5% Population Given 2 Shots
Florida, Population 21.5 Million = 8.0% Population Given 1 Shot, 1.5% Population Given 2 Shots
France, Population 67.0 Million = 2.3% Population Given 1 Shot, 0.1% Population Given 2 Shots
Sweden, Population 10.2 Million = 2.2% Population Given 1 Shot, 0.2% Population Given 2 Shots

Canada, Population 37.5 Million = 1.6% Population Given 1 Shot, 0.3% Population Given 2 Shots
 
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Disney Irish

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Back home in the good 'ol US of A, thanks to our 250 year old constitutional republic, each state is mostly responsible for the health and welfare of their state citizens, with some help and kickback funding from the Feds since LBJ was in office.

Let's look at how the 50 nifty states are faring, shall we?

Buck up California fans, because the Golden State has moved up from dead last place, or even 49th, and is now in the top 40 of all 50 states! Millions and millions of doses from the Feds continue to be delivered to the states weekly, based on their population size. We're in the Top 40! Before we know it, we'll be on American Bandstand.🕺

Again, from Bloomberg, as of Monday evening, the five states we've been tracking in this thread...

#3 West Virginia = 86.1% Doses Used, 10.9% Population Given 1 Shot, 3.8% Population Given 2 Shots
#13 Michigan = 73.8% Doses Used, 8.0% Population Given 1 Shot, 2.0% Population Given 2 Shots
#24 Texas = 68.2% Doses Used, 6.9% Population Given 1 Shot, 1.7% Population Given 2 Shots
#38 California = 62.2% Doses Used, 7.2% Population Given 1 Shot, 1.5% Population Given 2 Shots
#44 Florida = 59.9% Doses Used, 8.0% Population Given 1 Shot, 1.5% Population Given 2 Shots



The good news there is that after a month of mass vaccinations even a poorly performing state like California or Florida, in the bottom quarter percentile of 50 states, is still many times more effective at getting shots into arms than entire countries like Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Sweden, Italy, etc., etc.

California, Population 39.5 Million = 7.2% Population Given 1 Shot, 1.5% Population Given 2 Shots
Florida, Population 21.5 Million = 8.0% Population Given 1 Shot, 1.5% Population Given 2 Shots
France, Population 67.0 Million = 2.3% Population Given 1 Shot, 0.1% Population Given 2 Shots
Sweden, Population 10.2 Million = 2.2% Population Given 1 Shot, 0.2% Population Given 2 Shots

Canada, Population 37.5 Million = 1.6% Population Given 1 Shot, 0.3% Population Given 2 Shots
And once again you got the numbers incorrect, even with you just looking at the percentage of supply used:

37 - California 3,523,111 7.2 1.5 155,087 62.2%
38 - Illinois 1,054,814 6.4 1.7 47,373 62.2%
39 - Missouri 515,850 6.5 1.9 23,434 61.7%
40 - Iowa 257,468 6.2 1.9 8,752 61.6%
41 - Maryland 544,369 7.5 1.5 24,490 61.5%
42 - New Hampshire 130,515 7.4 2.2 5,127 60.1%
43 - Florida 2,036,038 8.0 1.5 67,236 59.9%
44 - Pennsylvania 1,147,343 7.2 1.8 51,058 58.0%
45 - Rhode Island 100,474 7.0 2.4 3,783 58.0%
46 - Massachusetts 608,947 7.0 1.8 25,047 57.4%
47 - Mississippi 243,890 7.3 0.9 8,499 57.4%
48 - Idaho 124,377 5.7 1.3 4,399 56.1%
49 - Kansas 229,459 6.4 1.5 10,277 55.5%
50 - Alabama 359,589 6.2 1.1 14,900 54.5%

Also I think it's important to point out and should have been previously that not all 39.51M Californians can get the shot. Remember that only those 16 and older (but primarily 18+) can get the shot, even the one shot J&J vaccine. Moderna just started a trial testing on 12-17 yr olds, but that data won't be out for months. And we likely won't get information for 11 and under until the end of the year.

So that right there eliminates almost 10M individuals from this current vaccination program. So in reality California's population for the current vaccination program is really 30M individuals. So the reality is that California is actually over 10% of the current eligible population having gotten at least one shot. And by the time 1A and 1B are completed it'll be over 40% of the current eligible individuals in California vaccinated.
 

TP2000

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And once again you got the numbers incorrect, even with you just looking at the percentage of supply used:

The numbers are not incorrect. You may not personally like what the numbers show for California, but that does not make them incorrect. Just because we dislike an accurate statistic, that doesn't make it a wrong statistic.

The numbers were lifted directly from Bloomberg as of 3:43pm Pacific time. Here's the link again to the Bloomberg site.


If Bloomberg, and every other major media outlet in the country, is not covering the numbers you want, you should complain to them.

The numbers are the numbers. Percent of supply used, and shots in arms. It couldn't be more simple.
 

TP2000

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TP2000

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Also I think it's important to point out and should have been previously that not all 39.51M Californians can get the shot. Remember that only those 16 and older (but primarily 18+) can get the shot, even the one shot J&J vaccine. Moderna just started a trial testing on 12-17 yr olds, but that data won't be out for months. And we likely won't get information for 11 and under until the end of the year.

So that right there eliminates almost 10M individuals from this current vaccination program. So in reality California's population for the current vaccination program is really 30M individuals. So the reality is that California is actually over 10% of the current eligible population having gotten at least one shot. And by the time 1A and 1B are completed it'll be over 40% of the current eligible individuals in California vaccinated.

FYI, the CDC has stated that the current Covid vaccines are only to be given to Americans over the age of 16.

That's not an age concept exclusive to California, so California doesn't get to be graded on a curve by you while 49 other states don't get graded on a curve. Children exist in the other 49 states. I've seen 'em!

 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
The numbers are not incorrect. You may not personally like what the numbers show for California, but that does not make them incorrect. Just because we dislike an accurate statistic, that doesn't make it a wrong statistic.

The numbers were lifted directly from Bloomberg as of 3:43pm Pacific time. Here's the link again to the Bloomberg site.


If Bloomberg, and every other major media outlet in the country, is not covering the numbers you want, you should complain to them.

The numbers are the numbers. Percent of supply used, and shots in arms. It couldn't be more simple.

They were incorrect at that time because you keep miscounting the "rank", California was 37th at that time you posted not 38th.

And to prove to you the "rank" is meaningless as we continue in this process, California is now way up on the list based on "percent of supply", California skyrocketed just like I said it would, now sitting 29th based on today's (2/2/2021 at 3:43PM PST from Bloomberg) numbers:

29 - California 3,649,440 7.4 1.5 151,672 64.4%
30 - Wisconsin 578,336 8.1 1.9 30,833 64.2%
31 - Oregon 438,302 8.4 2.0 18,605 64.1%
32 - Michigan 1,028,286 8.2 2.1 38,317 63.9%
33 - Alaska 125,770 13.3 4.0 3,455 63.9%
34 - Iowa 263,248 6.3 2.0 9,324 63.4%
35 - Texas 2,525,104 6.9 1.8 86,744 61.7%
36 - Maryland 553,733 7.6 1.5 22,439 61.5%
37 - Georgia 954,786 7.4 1.2 39,974 61.3%
38 - Kentucky 419,562 7.8 1.5 15,339 61.3%
39 - Ohio 1,045,139 7.6 1.6 48,159 60.8%
40 - Nevada 253,174 7.0 1.2 12,687 60.7%
41 - Massachusetts 625,477 7.2 1.8 26,111 60.2%
42 - New Hampshire 135,799 7.6 2.4 5,542 59.9%
43 - Pennsylvania 1,166,359 7.2 1.9 44,764 58.7%
44 - Idaho 126,648 5.8 1.3 4,250 58.4%
45 - Rhode Island 102,384 7.1 2.5 3,456 58.1%
46 - Mississippi 254,594 7.6 1.0 8,738 58.1%
47 - Florida 2,119,968 8.1 1.7 71,078 58.0%
48 - Illinois 1,073,076 6.6 1.8 47,870 57.7%
49 - Kansas 231,201 6.4 1.5 10,351 55.9%
50 - Alabama 373,907 6.4 1.2 15,372 54.9%

Which I see you didn't report the "ranking" today because it doesn't follow your narrative that "California sucks". But don't worry that number will change again tomorrow, and California could go back down again. Or it could go up further on the list.....

FYI, the CDC has stated that the current Covid vaccines are only to be given to Americans over the age of 16.

That's not an age concept exclusive to California, so California doesn't get to be graded on a curve by you while 49 other states don't get graded on a curve. Children exist in the other 49 states. I've seen 'em!

Who said anything about grading on a curve? All I said is we have to look at the actual population able to get the vaccine in the current program, not the entire population of the state. This is so we get a real representation of percentage of that population vaccinated. That is a true measure of how this state or any other state is doing.

We can do the same with any other state if you wish, but I really don't care as once again its NOT a competition between states. I honestly don't care if another state is really doing better. I only care how California is doing as that is the state I live in and the state I'm getting vaccinated in. And I think its important to know that when 1A and 1B is completed that it'll be over 40% of the eligible population vaccinated, that is official based on the states numbers. This is important because that is large portion vaccinated that will help get us back to normality. Because the next batch, 1C, and while I don't have official numbers yet, my estimation is approximately going to be 20-30% of the eligible population (not entire state population). And Phase 2 will cover the rest of the eligible population, also approximately 30-40%, again an estimate. Adding up to 90% of the entire state's population. The last 10% of the entire state's population is kids under 16. But by that point we'll already have herd immunity in the state, in fact likely by the end of 1C we'll be close to 60-70% of the entire state vaccinated. Someone can correct me if my estimates are off, but I think I'm close.

Its also important because we're likely getting very close to having 1A be completed, meaning 1B tier 2 and 1C can start pretty soon. And this is personally important to me because I fall under 1C.

So this is why its important to look at the "real" population numbers in terms of eligible population getting the vaccine under the current program.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
The numbers are not incorrect. You may not personally like what the numbers show for California, but that does not make them incorrect. Just because we dislike an accurate statistic, that doesn't make it a wrong statistic.

The numbers were lifted directly from Bloomberg as of 3:43pm Pacific time. Here's the link again to the Bloomberg site.


If Bloomberg, and every other major media outlet in the country, is not covering the numbers you want, you should complain to them.

The numbers are the numbers. Percent of supply used, and shots in arms. It couldn't be more simple.
Also I'd like to point out that less focus is being given to "percentage of supply used" now, even on Bloomberg's site. Its why they've expanded their tracking to include other data points. Its because they know just as I do that the supply is going to continue to increase and the focus will be on the amount of doses administered and the percentage of the population vaccinated.

And this is because manufacturing is increasing, as reported today Pfizer plans to have 200M doses delivered by May here in the US, 2 full months ahead of schedule. And that is just one vaccine. Moderna is looking to squeeze more doses into vials, adding 33% more vaccine per vial, which could be approved by the FDA in a matter of weeks, also increasing supply.

So as has being told to you, supply percentage is becoming a meaningless stat to follow.
 

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