News Disneyland Resort To Be A Major OC Vaccination Site-OCR

[TP2000]

Actually it would make a difference if per capita was used.

We can track this per capita if you'd like. Shots in arms, per capita, which levels the playing field whether your state has 40 Million people like California, or 30 Million people like Texas, or 10 Million people like Michigan, or less than 2 Million people like West Virginia. See those per capita vaccination stats below.

Also I've never said California is doing outstanding in terms of administering the vaccine.

That's good. Because California currently sucks. On Wednesday, January 20th it fell further down to very last place. #50 of all 50 states, in that Bloomberg tracking tool you were quoting a week ago. We're in last place. Behind even Alabama now.

Point is there have been hiccups, which should be expected when an endeavor of this magnitude is undertaken. So I'm cutting them a lot of slack right now.

That's very kind of you. Sacramento needs someone to cut them some slack. They work so hard, and they have so many press conferences to give. Their hard work has currently earned them last place at #50, where for the last few weeks they hovered around #45. Everyone in Sacramento deserves a hug and to leave a little early this Friday. They earned it. #50!!!

Daily vaccinations:

1. California 92,018
2. Florida 77,321
3. Texas 70,361
4. New York State 60,112
5. Michigan 36,558

What this means is that California will likely have more of the population fully vaccinated a lot quicker than most other states.

Again, we run into that pesky Per Capita thing. Where a state with only 10 Million people (Michigan) will have a better result with lower daily numbers than a state of 40 Million people (California) who has higher daily numbers.

Based on those daily vaccinations you quoted above, here's the date each state will be fully vaccinated if rates stay unchanged in each state (which they won't, for instance Michigan just started giving out Covid shots in 120 Meijer supermarkets yesterday, ramping up to 256 Meijer supermarkets in the weeks ahead, etc., etc.):

1. California, Population 39.5 Million, 92,018 Shots Per Day, Fully Vaccinated 429 Days From Now
2. Florida, Population 21.5 Million, 77,321 Shots Per Day, Fully Vaccinated 278 Days From Now
3. Texas, Population 29.0 Million, 70,361 Shots Per Day, Fully Vaccinated 412 Days From Now
4. New York, Population 19.5 Million, 60,112 Shots Per Day, Fully Vaccinated 324 Days From Now
5. Michigan, Population 10.0 Million, 36,558 Shots Per Day, Fully Vaccinated 273 Days From Now

So really when you look at the overall picture California has sped up administration by a lot over the last week. And over the next couple of weeks that number will just continue to go up as more capacity comes online. Once that happens, then the per capita will skyrocket as I've been saying it will.

Great. Because as you can see from those stats I posted directly above, California is far behind other large states. Sacramento desperately needs some skyrocketing right about now. We're in dead last place.

I was particularly shocked at Florida and how well they are doing, which is good because they have such a large population of senior citizens there. But still, I make fun of Florida just as much as the next Disneyland fan. But they are kicking California's behind right now, beating us to full vaccination by 151 days. That's five months.

 

[TP2000]

Somebody wondered about Walgreens making money off the "free" shots. They charge the government $60 when I get a flu shot.

Wow! Really? And here I thought CVS and Walgreens made such a big deal bout "Free!" flu shots because they wanted to sell more toothpaste and hairspray to you on your way out after your flu shot.

Instead, they're making serious change off the shot itself. Good for them!

 

[TP2000]

Looked like Disney's Vaccination Adventure was closed today.

Wait, for a SECOND day? Because of the wind again? It was lovely today, sunny and 74 degrees. It was barely breezy.

 

[TP2000]

Also supply isn't arriving weekly. There are major delays in both Pfizer and Moderna shipping right now. There is no shipment this week.

That's incorrect. Millions more vaccine doses were delivered to the states this week, after the holiday weekend. California received an additional 600,000 doses this week. As of January 20th, from the tracking site you asked me to use...

California - 4.17 Million Doses Delivered, 1.52 Million Doses Administered = 2.65 Million Unused California Doses

State-by-state data on COVID-19 vaccinations in the United States

To be able to track the vaccination campaign in the United States, we are making state-by-state data available in the following charts. We are updating the data daily.

ourworldindata.org

 

[Disney Irish]

We can track this per capita if you'd like. Shots in arms, per capita, which levels the playing field whether your state has 40 Million people like California, or 30 Million people like Texas, or 10 Million people like Michigan, or less than 2 Million people like West Virginia. See those per capita vaccination stats below.


That's good. Because California currently sucks. On Wednesday, January 20th it fell further down to very last place. #50 of all 50 states, in that Bloomberg tracking tool you were quoting a week ago. We're in last place. Behind even Alabama now.



That's very kind of you. Sacramento needs someone to cut them some slack. They work so hard, and they have so many press conferences to give. Their hard work has currently earned them last place at #50, where for the last few weeks they hovered around #45. Everyone in Sacramento deserves a hug and to leave a little early this Friday. They earned it. #50!!!



Again, we run into that pesky Per Capita thing. Where a state with only 10 Million people (Michigan) will have a better result with lower daily numbers than a state of 40 Million people (California) who has higher daily numbers.

Based on those daily vaccinations you quoted above, here's the date each state will be fully vaccinated if rates stay unchanged in each state (which they won't, for instance Michigan just started giving out Covid shots in 120 Meijer supermarkets yesterday, ramping up to 256 Meijer supermarkets in the weeks ahead, etc., etc.):

1. California, Population 39.5 Million, 92,018 Shots Per Day, Fully Vaccinated 429 Days From Now
2. Florida, Population 21.5 Million, 77,321 Shots Per Day, Fully Vaccinated 278 Days From Now
3. Texas, Population 29.0 Million, 70,361 Shots Per Day, Fully Vaccinated 412 Days From Now
4. New York, Population 19.5 Million, 60,112 Shots Per Day, Fully Vaccinated 324 Days From Now
5. Michigan, Population 10.0 Million, 36,558 Shots Per Day, Fully Vaccinated 273 Days From Now



Great. Because as you can see from those stats I posted directly above, California is far behind other large states. Sacramento desperately needs some skyrocketing right about now. We're in dead last place.

I was particularly shocked at Florida and how well they are doing, which is good because they have such a large population of senior citizens there. But still, I make fun of Florida just as much as the next Disneyland fan. But they are kicking California's behind right now, beating us to full vaccination by 151 days. That's five months.

You do know that number of daily doses given isn't going to be static right? Come on, you're smarter than that, I honestly know you are.

You yourself talked about a new "super site" coming online in OC just the other day. Touting how its going to be so much better because its indoors. That adds capacity, that adds more to the daily doses given. And that is just in OC. What about all the other sites coming online over the next couple weeks and months? Wouldn't those add more capacity? So that daily doses administered number will go up. Plus you aren't accounting for the fact we are still early days in just Phase 1A and 1B, based on some very rough estimates is about 6M people. If we use this number and the number of current daily administered shots, and assume no increase, that puts us at 65 days which is at the end of March. Which is about when Phase 2 was suppose to start. However we know that isn't the reality. The reality is that more capacity will come online, meaning that more shots will be given out daily and more of the population will be vaccinated a lot quicker. So that should cut that 65 days down to my guess closer to 45 days, or the beginning of March.

Again I'm not saying its been a great rollout. But your snarky comments about hugs and such aren't appreciated, you're better than that. We can have a civil discourse here even if we don't agree without resorting to snark.

That's incorrect. Millions more vaccine doses were delivered to the states this week, after the holiday weekend. California received an additional 600,000 doses this week. As of January 20th, from the tracking site you asked me to use...

California - 4.17 Million Doses Delivered, 1.52 Million Doses Administered = 2.65 Million Unused California Doses

State-by-state data on COVID-19 vaccinations in the United States

To be able to track the vaccination campaign in the United States, we are making state-by-state data available in the following charts. We are updating the data daily.

ourworldindata.org

Incorrect, California has ORDERED 4.17M doses, California has only RECEIVED 3.75M doses. So unless I'm reading this wrong no it didn't receive millions more doses, if it received any it got less than 250k based on the last updates. But the point is that California only has received 3.75M doses, not 4.17M.

With a majority of those already received shipped to the local counties. So its not like they are still in some warehouse in Sacramento, they are already at the local sites in each county under county control.

Luckily earlier today the 330k doses of the Moderna vaccine that had been removed from supply due to severe allergic reactions has been ok'd to use again. This is the type of supply interruptions that has been talked about.

 

[TP2000]

You do know that number of daily doses given isn't going to be static right? Come on, you're smarter than that, I honestly know you are.

You act as if all other 49 states live in a vacuum and will not be increasing their own capacity in the days and weeks ahead.

Michigan just this week joined a growing list of other states that is now giving out the Covid shots in hundreds of supermarket pharmacies across the Wolverine State.

Each state is increasing their vaccine distribution systems, just as California is. The problem is that California is already in last place, and not improving fast enough to catch up to the other big, wealthy states like Texas, Florida, New York, Michigan, etc.

Incorrect, California has ORDERED 4.17M doses, California has only RECEIVED 3.75M doses. So unless I'm reading this wrong no it didn't receive millions more doses, if it received any it got less than 250k based on the last updates. But the point is that California only has received 3.75M doses, not 4.17M.

Your data is old. The state has currently ordered 4.25 Million doses.

The state website is only updated through January 20th, and it shows 3.98 Million doses were delivered and in California's possession yesterday. Bloomberg updates its state rankings every few hours, and still shows that California has had 4.17 Million doses delivered as of today.

Covid-19 Vaccines

covid19.ca.gov

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

 

[Disney Irish]

You act as if all other 49 states live in a vacuum and will not be increasing their own capacity daily and weekly.

Michigan just this week joined a growing list of other states that is now giving out the Covid shots in hundreds of supermarket pharmacies across the Wolverine State.

Each state is increasing their vaccine distribution systems, just as California is. The problem is that California is already in last place, and not improving fast enough to catch up to the other big, wealthy states like Texas, Florida, New York, Michigan, etc.

And yet you act as though California is just going to sit and do nothing to increase capacity over the course of the next weeks and months.

Your data is old. The state has currently ordered 4.25 Million doses.

The state website is only updated through January 20th, and it shows 3.98 Million doses were delivered in California's possession yesterday. Bloomberg updates its state rankings every few hours, and still shows that California has had 4.17 Million doses delivered as of today.

Covid-19 Vaccines

covid19.ca.gov

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

The state's website was updated this morning, and just like all COVID numbers including those on Bloomberg and every other site you reference are always from the previous day. There is no site that has today's numbers because today is not done. Reporting of today's numbers happen tomorrow as is the case with ALL COVID related data.

And you still misunderstand the ORDERED versus SHIPPED numbers. ORDERED is how many each local county has requested, SHIPPED is how many they've actually received. There is a lag between the ORDERED and SHIPPED numbers by a week or more. So there is currently an approximately 256K difference which in somewhere in the system waiting to be approved by the Federal Government before its shipped out to the local counties. So just because Bloomberg says 4.17M or 4.25M whenever they get updated doesn't mean that is how much is ACTUALLY received by local counties.

Here is direct from the state website:

"Once a week, the federal government announces anticipated allocation figures for each state. The number of allocated doses provided by the federal government is a projection and subject to change. Local California providers are required to place their orders which are reviewed by the state and submitted to the federal government. The federal government then authorizes the order and submits the request to the manufacturer. The manufacturer or central distributor ships the vaccine directly to the local California provider. It can take a week or longer between when doses are allocated by the federal government to when they arrive at public health offices or providers and are ready for administration."

So again just because California has requested 4.25M doses doesn't mean that California has ACTUALLY received 4.25M doses. Meaning that California doesn't have a supply that has totaled 4.25M yet.

 

[TP2000]

Speaking of Bloomberg, they updated their exhaustive statistics again today. Whoever is running that site's Covid Vaccine Tracker is doing a tremendous job!

Here is the latest stats from Bloomberg.

California continues to be in dead last place, #50, among percentage of vaccines distributed. And looking at it from the Per Capita metric, California continues to bounce around among the bottom 3 or 4 states when it comes to shots in arms of citizens per capita.

I do not feel either of these California rankings is acceptable almost six weeks after vaccinations began, in a state that collects some of the highest taxes in the nation and currently sits on a massive budget surplus and a "Rainy Day Fund" of over $15 Billion Dollars.

Percent Of Distributed Vaccines Used as of 1/21/21
#2 West Virginia = 73.0%
#10 Texas = 56.1%
#18 Michigan = 56.5%
#27 Florida = 51.3%
#50 California = 37.3%

Here's today's info on per capita, as a number of shots in the arm per 100 state citizens...

West Virginia = 9.4 Shots Per 100 Citizens
Florida = 6.1 Shots Per 100 Citizens
Michigan = 6.0 Shots Per 100 Citizens
Texas = 5.3 Shots Per 100 Citizens
California = 4.1 Shots Per 100 Citizens

When it comes to per capita shots administered, California is in 48th place. We are trailed slightly only by two states; Alabama at 4.1 Shots Per 100 Citizens, and South Carolina at 4.0 Shots Per 100 Citizens.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

 

[TP2000]

Here's some good news for all of us, unless you are in a social circle where it's fashionable to say out loud "America Fails At Everything! This Is A Horrible Place To Live! USA SUX! I'm Moving To Canada!"

If you go to those type of fashionable dinner parties with your Socialist friends, avoid this Science & Data from Bloomberg...

Covid Vaccine Shots Given Per Capita, By Nation As Of 1/21/21

United Kingdom = 5.4 Million Doses Given, 8.1 Doses Per 100 Brits
United States = 18.0 Million Doses Given, 5.6 Doses Per 100 Americans
Spain = 1.1 Million Doses Given, 2.3 Doses Given Per 100 Spaniards
Italy = 1.3 Million Doses Given, 2.1 Doses Given Per 100 Italians
Canada = 727,000 Doses Given, 1.9 Doses Given Per 100 Canadians
Germany = 1.4 Million Doses Given, 1.7 Doses Given Per 100 Germans
Sweden = 147,000 Doses Given, 1.4 Doses Given Per 100 Swedes
France = 824,000 Doses Given, 1.3 Doses Given Per 100 Frenchmen
Belgium = 142,000 Doses Given, 1.2 Doses Given Per 100 Belgians
Netherlands = 77,000 Doses Given, 0.7 Doses Given Per 100 Dutchmen

Then there remains a list of wealthy, civilized nations that have not yet even begun offering vaccinations to their citizens. Vaccinations in these countries don't begin until February or March; Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, South Africa.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

I'm most surprised at Japan, since they have a Summer Olympics coming up in six months. I assume they will require all arriving athletes and support staff to have been vaccinated. But still, those island nations like Japan, New Zealand, Australia have cut themselves off from the world. And Japan has an Olympics to host soon! They can't delay it for yet another year, can they?

 

[Old Mouseketeer]

But Newsom's French Laundry dinner!!!!

Hey, I still haven't forgiven him for being married to Kimberly Guilfoyle!!!

 

[Old Mouseketeer]

Do you think that public health policy should be decided by quick Google searching?

You had to ask? Besides ignoring that DL was only the first site POD site in OC. They have already announced SOKA University and they are rumored to be looking at OC Fair Grounds and possibly one more. There are issues of scale with pharmacies for this many vaccinations. Besides, I haven't heard if it is either/or. Plus there are many large healthcare providers like Kaiser that have facilities with large parking lots that can accomodate large numbers of people. When I got my flu shot last fall things were moving quickly.

 

[lazyboy97o]

@oceanbreeze77 Don’t you live in California and luck into an extra dose at a grocery store?

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Perhaps there's a good explanation for the chaotic rollout of the vaccination program in California and across the country?

Oh, wait, it turns out there is.

"Another source described the moment that it became clear the Biden administration would have to essentially start from "square one" because there simply was no plan as: "Wow, just further affirmation of complete incompetence.""

Anyone surprised? As Hillary Clinton said in a tweet about the news today, this is appalling.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Hey, I still haven't forgiven him for being married to Kimberly Guilfoyle!!!

I haven't forgiven her.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Hey, I still haven't forgiven him for being married to Kimberly Guilfoyle!!!

She’s definitely...something.

He definitely upgraded.

 

[TP2000]

Perhaps there's a good explanation for the chaotic rollout of the vaccination program in California and across the country?

Oh, wait, it turns out there is.

"Another source described the moment that it became clear the Biden administration would have to essentially start from "square one" because there simply was no plan as: "Wow, just further affirmation of complete incompetence.""

Anyone surprised? As Hillary Clinton said in a tweet about the news today, this is appalling.

How do you square that with the hard facts behind how the USA is faring compared to other European nations? Or the Asia-Pacific nations that don't even have any vaccine yet for their citizens?

Covid Vaccine Shots Given Per Capita, By Nation As Of 1/21/21

United Kingdom = 5.4 Million Doses Given, 8.1 Doses Per 100 Brits
United States = 18.0 Million Doses Given, 5.6 Doses Per 100 Americans
Spain = 1.1 Million Doses Given, 2.3 Doses Given Per 100 Spaniards
Italy = 1.3 Million Doses Given, 2.1 Doses Given Per 100 Italians
Canada = 727,000 Doses Given, 1.9 Doses Given Per 100 Canadians
Germany = 1.4 Million Doses Given, 1.7 Doses Given Per 100 Germans
Sweden = 147,000 Doses Given, 1.4 Doses Given Per 100 Swedes
France = 824,000 Doses Given, 1.3 Doses Given Per 100 Frenchmen
Belgium = 142,000 Doses Given, 1.2 Doses Given Per 100 Belgians
Netherlands = 77,000 Doses Given, 0.7 Doses Given Per 100 Dutchmen

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

Some of those European countries have higher death rates than the USA, and yet they are still much slower at giving their smaller populations vaccinations than the USA is. How is that explained?

In the last week, the United States has averaged 939,000 vaccinations per day. And that daily rate is rising quickly and is about to cross the 1 Million doses per day threshold for Americans.

 

[TP2000]

Hey, I still haven't forgiven him for being married to Kimberly Guilfoyle!!!

Here ya go... courtesy of the happy couple's full spread (pardon the pun) in Harper's Bazaar.

I didn't know this until now when I Googled that photo (puke), but apparently they divorced suddenly in 2005 after Kimberly found out that Gavin was cheating on her and having an affair with his campaign manager's wife. Ouch.

I imagine Gavin also had to quickly find a new campaign manager, along with a divorce attorney.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

@oceanbreeze77 Don’t you live in California and luck into an extra dose at a grocery store?

yup. Like many other states, vaccine throwouts are an issue. Sometimes you get someone who doesn't want to throw it out. I was at the store around 5 PM.

 

[truecoat]

I'm most surprised at Japan, since they have a Summer Olympics coming up in six months. I assume they will require all arriving athletes and support staff to have been vaccinated. But still, those island nations like Japan, New Zealand, Australia have cut themselves off from the world. And Japan has an Olympics to host soon! They can't delay it for yet another year, can they?

The Olympics is being cancelled. 2024 will be the next one.

 

[Disney Irish]

The Olympics is being cancelled. 2024 will be the next one.

That appears, at least for now, to be a false rumor:

Japan and IOC determined to hold Tokyo Olympics despite cancellation rumors | CNN

Reports of this summer's Tokyo Olympic Games being canceled due to Covid-19 are "categorically untrue", the International Olympic Committee said in a statement to CNN on Friday.

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