lazyboy97o
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There you go. The kind of person who would only volunteer to get the first shot and then walk away is probably the same sort of person to publicly brag about doing so.
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There you go. The kind of person who would only volunteer to get the first shot and then walk away is probably the same sort of person to publicly brag about doing so.
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Offering free vaccinations to those who volunteer for 40 hours is quite literally the very least we can do as a society to show our appreciation for their generous service. I strongly believe that protecting frontline workers from contracting and spreading the virus throughout their communities ought to be a priority, and yes that includes restaurant workers, cashiers, sales clerks, folks in the travel industry, and so on of any age.
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I'm not endorsing that kind of behavior, and I fully understand that availability is sparse at the moment, but the way I look at it is he's one less person likely to contract Covid and spread it around. The more shots given the better it is for everyone.
TP2000
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I agree with you, but not until Phase 3.
In these first few days and weeks of vaccine distribution, we need to vaccinate the people the virus kills the most.
And the Science & Data is very clear, and has been very clear for almost a year now. Covid kills primarily people over age 65. 81% in fact. With another 15% in the 50 to 64 age group. Then the remaining 4% of deaths are the 200 Million Americans under the age of 50.
So vaccinate the old people first in Phase 1A, then once we've done that you can get all the 30 year old Virtue Signalers in the world to jump ahead from Phase 3 to Phase 2 and get a shot for doing good deeds and Tweeting about it. Don't forget to Like and Subscribe because I volunteered to park cars!
lazyboy97o
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I agree. When thinking about it, while there would be various enforcement mechanisms available if really desired the idea also just felt icky. I believe most people are decent and wouldn’t view it as an easy shortcut (even more so because it is two doses) and if someone did clearly volunteer for the shot and then ditch you can make an example out of them if needed.
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This stuff is not that hard to understand TP. A few months ago you were here complaining about businesses being closed to protect "old people", people who you said were "going to die anyway" and that Covid was "just like the flu" or some such BS. Administering vaccinations to as many people as quickly as possible across the US should not be up for debate here.
A very close friend who lives in LA County near the OC border, a county where 1 in 3 residents have been infected with coronavirus, is tending to his elderly parents at their home at this moment. His brother, who works at an Irvine medical facility and frequently visits his parents, recently came in close contact with an infected person. In fact they are housemates in the same condo. He's the perfect example of a frontline worker who should be vaccinated in order to reduce community spread and protect the elderly whose wellbeing you are so suddenly concerned about.
Quick report on Disney Supersite:
My wife had an appointment (I do not qualify).
Arrived at 9:30AM for a 10:00 appointment. Appointments are every 15 minutes, and there are separate lines.
10:00 line started moving at 10:10. Wife was back to the car at 10:55.
The Supersite is operating very smoothly and efficiently.
These distribution sites should have been prepared prior to the vaccine release.
My wife had an appointment (I do not qualify).
Arrived at 9:30AM for a 10:00 appointment. Appointments are every 15 minutes, and there are separate lines.
10:00 line started moving at 10:10. Wife was back to the car at 10:55.
The Supersite is operating very smoothly and efficiently.
These distribution sites should have been prepared prior to the vaccine release.
el_super
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You're right of course. There is a very consistent, singular purpose, to the constant posts and redirections.
For what it's worth, and trying to stay a little on topic, I've asked around and from what I am being told, Disney has absolutely nothing to do with the operation. Most of the "guest control" and support roles are being handled by volunteers.
DrAlice
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Update on my parents.... At the end of the day, they still couldn't get through to their health care provider. Their county also announced (via a news interview, it isn't posted anywhere officially!!) that they are not ready to distribute vaccines to 65+, despite the governor's announcement. So, they have to go to their health care provider and can't use the county super sites. But they can't get through to the health care provider because it is overwhelmed......
I have so many things to say about this, but I can't say them here as they are mostly filled with profanity.
I have so many things to say about this, but I can't say them here as they are mostly filled with profanity.
DrAlice
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I can't agree with this more. WE HAD ALMOST A YEAR TO FIGURE THIS OUT!!!!
Ugh... it's so maddening.
Communicora
Premium Member
It's completely ridiculous. I understand states were not funded properly but they should have found the money somewhere.
el_super
Well-Known Member
Tends to be what happens when no one stands up in a room and says "I am leading this, here's what we're going to do." You have 50 states all going in different directions.
I'm a little more hopeful now though, that everyone (even at the Federal level) are sincerely trying to do the best work they can, and figure out these roll-out problems. Obviously pandemics aren't something we are accustomed to dealing with, and there's definitely been some learnings along the way. I could see this being a hard decision to make, when do you pull resources from testing/containment to crisis support/immediate care to vaccination and cleanup.
I admit I haven't been following COVID as much recently (gee I wonder why), but I do remember hearing early on that even the vaccine would make you feel sick for a few days. I had wondered how the balance between having "all hands on deck" for the surge that we were facing, versus having front line workers out sick for a few days to be vaccinated would be handled. Did they figure this out or has this not been much of an issue?
DrAlice
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It is my understanding that the side effects to these vaccines are no different than typical side effects to any vaccines. That is: A) they are RARE and B) the most common effects are pain at the injection site and mild "flu-like symptoms" (mild fever, malaise, etc.) for ~24 hours. I've not read or heard anything to suggest that getting a vaccine would result in people being out of work for a few days.
To your other points... I'm trying to be patient and give hospitals and govt officials the benefit of the doubt in handleing this crazy situation. However, after almost a year of being in my house, working from home, my patience isn't what it used to be.
el_super
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Oh yeah ... re-reading what I wrote, I definitely don't want to propagate any notion that the vaccine side effects were of enough concern to negate the need to get the vaccine. Simply that there was concern that even if a nurse or doctor didn't feel great to the point of taking a day out, it would further strain an already desperately strained situation.
If those concerns haven't really materialized, that would be excellent news.
To your other points... I'm trying to be patient and give hospitals and govt officials the benefit of the doubt in handleing this crazy situation. However, after almost a year of being in my house, working from home, my patience isn't what it used to be.
I've gotten use to being at home. Maybe that's a good thing or a bad thing. I will be willing to overlook failings in December and January, but if we don't have this figured out by February, it will definitely be a problem.
truecoat
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An adult will be in charge starting next week. Things will change for the better.
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Wow I wish that was our plan here in Michigan......In California I would be in 1C but in Michigan it skips this tier and am thrown in with anyone 16-64 that doesn't fall into prior categories.....THAT is alot of peeps.....I want a 1C tier!!!! Enjoy your trip to DLR.....I am hoping they make it a bit magical for all my DLR thread friends....wishing we all could get a FASTPASS......er a MAXPASS for you.....(but fastpass sounds better to my WDW self)
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Mac Tonight
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For what it's worth, both of my over 60, frontline health care working in-laws (Respiratory Therapist and Head Nurse in the valley) have been vaccinated. My father-in-law said his arm hurt for a few days after receiving the first dose because he wasn't properly instructed to wait 15 minutes after receiving it (it was a rush, "we have a dose available, who needs it?" kind of situation) and his wife felt pretty awful a day after receiving the second dose, but was back at it the next day.
TP2000
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I think we might be talking past each other on this one.
I am genuinely thrilled that frontline hospital workers are in Phase 1A and can get the vaccine immediately. I was also thrilled that Governor Newsom reversed his previous decision to make people 65 and older wait until Phase 1C, and now anyone over the age of 65 can get the vaccine in Phase 1A.
You and I appear to agree on all that.
What we disagree on is the thought that someone in Phase 2 or Phase 3, a healthy 35 year old for example, could just sign up to volunteer for one shift parking cars or shuffling clipboards at the Supersite and automatically jump the line to Phase 1A and get their vaccine now instead of waiting for their assigned phase later this year.
I don't think that's how it should work at all. When it comes to Phase 1A and 1B, they were fairly well planned out with the lone exception of making those over age 65 wait until 1C. Now that they fixed that glaring error, Phase 1A and Phase 1B seem very smart to me. Because the basic Science & Data is that Covid primarily kills people over the age of 65, by a huge percentage (81%, specifically)
So let's just keep going with these first two phases, 1A and 1B, get all the frontline important workers and anyone over the age of 65 vaccinated. Once we do that, later this spring we can start letting do-gooders jump the queue by months and give people who work 40 hours of volunteering a shot and a free button.
Mac Tonight
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Six Flags Magic Mountain is getting in on that mass vaccination supersite action.
“Six Flags Magic Mountain is honored to provide its parking lot to serve as a Los Angeles County Department of Public Health COVID-19 vaccination location in order to facilitate a broader distribution of vaccinations,” said Jerry Certonio, manager of marketing and public relations for Six Flags.
Six Flags will be the second vaccination site to open in the Santa Clarita Valley as Henry Mayo Newhall Hospital opened its vaccination site Wednesday and anticipates 500 vaccinations per day, according to hospital spokesperson Patrick Moody."
signalscv.com
“Six Flags Magic Mountain is honored to provide its parking lot to serve as a Los Angeles County Department of Public Health COVID-19 vaccination location in order to facilitate a broader distribution of vaccinations,” said Jerry Certonio, manager of marketing and public relations for Six Flags.
Six Flags will be the second vaccination site to open in the Santa Clarita Valley as Henry Mayo Newhall Hospital opened its vaccination site Wednesday and anticipates 500 vaccinations per day, according to hospital spokesperson Patrick Moody."
Six Flags, CSUN set to open as mass-vaccination sites
Los Angeles County announced five additional mass-vaccination sites set to open next week, which include Six Flags Magic Mountain and California State University, Northridge. With hopes to greatly expand vaccination capacity in the county, Six Flags and CSUN are two of five mass vaccination...
signalscv.com
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Six Flags Magic Mountain is getting in on that mass vaccination supersite action.
“Six Flags Magic Mountain is honored to provide its parking lot to serve as a Los Angeles County Department of Public Health COVID-19 vaccination location in order to facilitate a broader distribution of vaccinations,” said Jerry Certonio, manager of marketing and public relations for Six Flags.
Six Flags will be the second vaccination site to open in the Santa Clarita Valley as Henry Mayo Newhall Hospital opened its vaccination site Wednesday and anticipates 500 vaccinations per day, according to hospital spokesperson Patrick Moody."
Six Flags, CSUN set to open as mass-vaccination sites
Los Angeles County announced five additional mass-vaccination sites set to open next week, which include Six Flags Magic Mountain and California State University, Northridge. With hopes to greatly expand vaccination capacity in the county, Six Flags and CSUN are two of five mass vaccination...
Good for them!
What would be great is if we could get some TR's going for these two supersites a few weeks from now, and people could comment on the difference in clientele between Six Flags and Disneyland's vaccine sites.
