Disneyland officially reopening April 30th

Darkbeer1

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TP2000 said:
Good for them!

Non-Californians: Adventure City is a very small but adorable little park on a couple acres several miles west of Disneyland. It has seven or eight rides that are mostly in the "kiddy ride" category, and it's target age is pre-school and kindergarten. It's been there forever, and is a little family owned business if memory serves.

I just didn't want non-locals to think this was a big deal that a "theme park" was reopening, but technically they are the first theme park to reopen in Orange County with rides. Perhaps the first in all of SoCal!?

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The two Six Flags parks in California open April 1st with rides.

I stated OC for a reason
As far as I know, there are only three Theme/Amusement parks in OC.

Of course, Boomers Irvine is currently open and operating as a Family Entertainment Center.

Of course, I strongly recommend the park, as I am a Limited Partner in the company that holds the lease for the park, and owns the Bowling Alley next door.
 
DavidNoble

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TP2000 said:
You didn't know that?

I take it you don't have a subscription to Harper's Bazaar, where Gavin and Kimberly posed in the Getty mansion in San Francisco for this infamous photo shoot splashed across the magazine pages? (The Getty family and all their oil money have been longtime friends and patrons of Gavin Newsom; Gavin's entire working career and political journey for the past 20 years has been fueled by Getty Oil money)

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You'll find emergency eye wash stations out in the hallways. You're welcome! :cool:
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Sadly, my subscription to Harper's Bazaar expired in 2003.
 
TP2000

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Darkbeer1 said:
That was the policy until the lawyers said they need to allow adults to buy tickets.

But American Coaster Enthusiasts had an exception when the kid needed policy was in effect.
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Wow, I had never heard of that.

A policy of "You Must Have a Child To Enter" seems like it would be fine in the 1960's, but wouldn't fly legally in this century.
 
Figments Friend

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TP2000 said:
Wow, I had never heard of that.

A policy of "You Must Have a Child To Enter" seems like it would be fine in the 1960's, but wouldn't fly legally in this century.
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Not a theme park, but several 'Chuck E. Cheese's' locations in the late 1980s and early 1990s had policies where they would not allow anyone in unless a child was with them.
This was to filter out the teenagers from hanging around in the game room, and also to keep random adults from entering to possibly leave with someone else's child.
Which sadly did happen on more then one occasion in the past.


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TP2000

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Figments Friend said:
Not a theme park, but several 'Chuck E. Cheese's' locations in the late 1980s and early 1990s had policies where they would not allow anyone in unless a child was with them.
This was to filter out the teenagers from hanging around in the game room, and also to keep random adults from entering to possibly leave with someone else's child.
Which sadly did happen on more then one occasion in the past.


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Oh my gosh, I had forgotten about that Chuck E. Cheese scenario. You're right, that was a thing.

Interestingly, all of the Chuck E. Cheeses in California have been closed for most of the last year, along with every other indoor dining room owned by big companies. A few months ago I was looking on my phone to order a pizza to pick up on my way home from running errands, and this new place a few miles from me popped up called "Pasquale's Pizza" and it had a nice website. Living here in this neighborhood for decades I thought "I've never heard of Pasquale's, and who would start a new restaurant now?!". My alarm bells went off. It turns out that Pasquale's Pizza was actually just the Chuck E. Cheese next to the nearby Home Depot and they were trying to stay afloat by pretending to be a take-out pizza parlor, and they were purposely hiding the fact it was just a Chuck E. Cheese restaurant selling pizza to go.

Pasquale is the culturally appropriated Italian character in their animatronic band. I give them credit for trying to survive in California's business climate, but... Can you imagine ordering and eating a Chuck E. Cheese pizza on purpose?!? o_O

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1HAPPYGHOSTHOST

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Anyone find it strange they have not announced when tickets go on sale or the prices yet? Park opening IS around the corner and people need time to plan and book hotels and rent cars and flights if you are in upstate cali., like this seems odd there is not more info at this point.
 
DavidNoble

DavidNoble

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TP2000 said:
Oh my gosh, I had forgotten about that Chuck E. Cheese scenario. You're right, that was a thing.

Interestingly, all of the Chuck E. Cheeses in California have been closed for most of the last year, along with every other indoor dining room owned by big companies. A few months ago I was looking on my phone to order a pizza to pick up on my way home from running errands, and this new place a few miles from me popped up called "Pasquale's Pizza" and it had a nice website. Living here in this neighborhood for decades I thought "I've never heard of Pasquale's, and who would start a new restaurant now?!". My alarm bells went off. It turns out that Pasquale's Pizza was actually just the Chuck E. Cheese next to the nearby Home Depot and they were trying to stay afloat by pretending to be a take-out pizza parlor, and they were purposely hiding the fact it was just a Chuck E. Cheese restaurant selling pizza to go.

Pasquale is the culturally appropriated Italian character in their animatronic band. I give them credit for trying to survive in California's business climate, but... Can you imagine ordering and eating a Chuck E. Cheese pizza on purpose?!? o_O

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As a byproduct of Chuck E Cheeses in the 80s, I can not let you disparage the good name that is Chuck E Cheese. We duel at dawn.
 
BuzzedPotatoHead89

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1HAPPYGHOSTHOST said:
Anyone find it strange they have not announced when tickets go on sale or the prices yet? Park opening IS around the corner and people need time to plan and book hotels and rent cars and flights if you are in upstate cali., like this seems odd there is not more info at this point.
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Part of the problem is there’s still a few unknowns.... we don’t yet have updated state guidance yet on theme park operations (particularly as it relates to indoor attractions). @TP2000 can keep me honest though, as he tracks this more on the regular. 😉

For this reason I assume TWDC would like to know how to then use the updated guidelines on which attractions are/aren’t operable to use to perform the final estimate for “total capacity” (for the % on the denominator) when selling tickets.

Additionally they may be waiting for the county to hit Orange tier (likely next week) so they can sell/book at over 15%.
 
TP2000

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Well, gang, it's 4:00 PM on a Friday in Sacramento and.... they actually just released the Industry Guidance for theme parks!

I'm not lying, they actually did something. :oops:

I have only just scanned over this document as it literally just appeared on the state website, but it seems as though they have backed off almost entirely from their bullet points they released a few weeks ago for theme parks; stuff like "indoor time restrictions" and "reservations only" have been changed dramatically or removed entirely.

Orange – Moderate – Tier 3
• Parks must limit visitors to a maximum of 25% capacity.
• Indoor capacity limited to a maximum of 25%
• Indoor dining limited to a maximum of 25% capacity
• Walk up ticket sales allowed. Park operators must collect complete name and contact information (including a phone number) of the ticket purchaser for necessary contact tracing.

Yellow – Minimal – Tier 4
• Parks must limit visitors to a maximum of 35% capacity.
• Indoor capacity limited to a maximum of 25%
• Indoor dining limited to a maximum of 50% capacity
• Walk up ticket sales allowed. Park operators must collect complete name and contact information (including phone number) of the ticket purchaser for necessary contact tracing.


 
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1HAPPYGHOSTHOST

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BuzzedPotatoHead89 said:
Part of the problem is there’s still a few unknowns.... we don’t yet have updated state guidance yet on theme park operations (particularly as it relates to indoor attractions). @TP2000 can keep me honest though, as he tracks this more on the regular. 😉

For this reason I assume TWDC would like to know how to then use the updated guidelines on which attractions are/aren’t operable to use to perform the final estimate for “total capacity” (for the % on the denominator) when selling tickets.

Additionally they may be waiting for the county to hit Orange tier (likely next week) so they can sell/book at over 15%.
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Then you don't announce an April 30th 2021 opening then.
 
TP2000

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I will say, one thing that has not changed or softened, is the ban on any foreigners from entering a California theme park.

Documented Californians only is still mandated across all four Tiers, with no known date when that would end or when a fifth Green Tier might be added to allow foreigners into California-only theme parks.

The latest language released today is this, from Page 3...

• Across all Tiers:
In-state visitors only. Information will be prominently placed on all communications, including the Reservation and Ticketing systems, to ensure guests are aware of Reservation and Ticketing Requirements. At the time a guest makes a park reservation and purchases park tickets, the park operators must obtain an attestation that when visiting the park, the guest’s party size will not contain more than 3 households and the guest, and all members of the guest’s party will be instate visitors.


So Disneyland's ticketing system or CM's must now obtain "an attestation" from the paying customers that no more than 3 households will go to Disneyland together, and none of them will be foreigners who snuck into the state.
 
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1HAPPYGHOSTHOST

1HAPPYGHOSTHOST

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TP2000 said:
I will say, one thing that has not changed or softened, is the ban on any foreigners from entering a California theme park.

Documented Californians only is still mandated across all four Tiers, with no known date when that would end or when a fifth Green Tier might be added to allow foreigners into California-only theme parks.

The latest language released today is this, from Page 3...

• Across all Tiers:
In-state visitors only. Information will be prominently placed on all communications, including the Reservation and Ticketing systems, to ensure guests are aware of Reservation and Ticketing Requirements. At the time a guest makes a park reservation and purchases park tickets, the park operators must obtain an attestation that when visiting the park, the guest’s party size will not contain more than 3 households and the guest, and all members of the guest’s party will be instate visitors.


So Disneyland's ticketing system must now obtain "an attestation" from the paying customers that no more than 3 households will go to Disneyland together, and none of them will be foreigners who snuck into the state.
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Disney is going to build a wall and make Knott's pay for it.
 
Darkbeer1

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TP2000 said:
Well, gang, it's 4:00 PM on a Friday in Sacramento and.... they actually just released the Industry Guidance for theme parks!

I'm not lying, they actually did something. :oops:

I have only just scanned over this document as it literally just appeared on the state website, but it seems as though they have backed off almost entirely from their bullet points they released a few weeks ago for theme parks; stuff like "indoor time restrictions" and "reservations only" have been changed dramatically or removed entirely.

Orange – Moderate – Tier 3
• Parks must limit visitors to a maximum of 25% capacity.
• Indoor capacity limited to a maximum of 25%
• Indoor dining limited to a maximum of 25% capacity
• Walk up ticket sales allowed. Park operators must collect complete name and contact information (including a phone number) of the ticket purchaser for necessary contact tracing.

Yellow – Minimal – Tier 4
• Parks must limit visitors to a maximum of 35% capacity.
• Indoor capacity limited to a maximum of 25%
• Indoor dining limited to a maximum of 50% capacity
• Walk up ticket sales allowed. Park operators must collect complete name and contact information (including phone number) of the ticket purchaser for necessary contact tracing.

And that's about all there is to it. There is absolutely no information about time restrictions for indoor rides, which makes that bullet point they released three weeks ago null and void. There is very little information about operating rides or attractions in general, and much of it is a cut and pasted and slimmed down version of what they released last October. And what language that is there is softened considerably to now use words like "consider refining" the normal operating procedures.

These are no longer mandates, and they are barely guidance. It's just a document encouraging a happy and safe theme park.

We've all noticed the shifting political winds here, but this new document looks like a hurricane blew through it and swept away almost everything of any consequence. And again, the ominous bullet points from three weeks ago limiting "indoor time restrictions" for queues and attractions is just gone. Poof!

What time restrictions? We don't know what you're talking about. It's April 1st, so why aren't you theme parks open?!? :rolleyes:

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Indoor rides must be limited to 15 minutes. On page 4.

Queues must be in an outdoor setting only.
 
TP2000

TP2000

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1HAPPYGHOSTHOST said:
Disney is going to build a wall and make Knott's pay for it.
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Sacramento should just put up a sign along Interstate 5 at the Oregon border that says:

"Oregonians - don't even think about Disneyland! We're watching you!"

Then install signs in baggage claim at all the major California airports that say:

"Why did you bring that big suitcase? Don't think you're going to be here long enough for Universal Studios!"
 

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