Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
You can just get vaccinated and make it simple without breaking a law lol. Or just not go to New York, though I suspect we will start seeing more of this elsewhere outside of New York.
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
News Disneyland modifies mask policy - UPDATE 7/28/21
- Thread starter DCBaker
- Start date
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
Ain't nobody about to start farming and having a bunch of children just so they don't have to wear a mask LOOOOOLLL.
Only way to do it would be with an app that could actually check. When I got my jab it was at a drive thru site. They just gave us cards for everyone in the car. They were blank except for info on the site, date, batch and initials of who gave it. I could have copied it on card stock. It would look just like the original.
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
And that's where it gets dumb. Blank cards should never be distributed.
I agree about digital copies, or maybe even both a digital and card copy, if possible. They'll have to figure all that out in New York.
mickEblu
Well-Known Member
Haha yeah I’m just assuming LA will require it in no time.
mickEblu
Well-Known Member
LOL. That life sounds super refreshing to me actually. I just wouldn’t have no damn clue where to start.
Last edited:
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
I would consider living like that somewhere in Europe, but not here in America.
There's always YouTube. Learn how to farm and grow your own food there and you and your wife in the meantime can get started on the children lol. That's the easiest part, but I figured it'd be best to learn to farm and grow so you can teach your children (aka workers) how to do it as they age.
I was actually kind of shocked. When my brother in law went 3 months later it was the same. I have no doubt there are thousands of fake cards being sold.
Tamandua
Well-Known Member
A lot of us tech company employees working from home indefinitely are probably never going to be required to get the jab. There's no mandate if you never go back to the office, and the regression back to covid restrictions is causing companies like ours to continue putting off returning to the office.
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
Sure you will. I'll be out traveling, enjoying my life.
This looks... Never mind.
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
Yeah it is, with proper precautions. There are risks everywhere, but that doesn't mean nothing is safe.
Tamandua
Well-Known Member
Hey. I agree with you for once. The only place we disagree is that you believe people should be able to dictate what precautions and risks other people can take. I've always said people should take whatever precautions they feel necessary for themselves. Masks, vaccines, staying home... Whatever. But let's not force those restrictions on others.
Some years ago, a wreckless driver drove their car through my neighbor's yard and right through their living room wall. They could have killed my neighbors. Sometimes I think about my daughters sleeping in their rooms facing the street, and how that could have or even could happen to us. Allowing people to drive comes with risks. Even if I choose not to drive, how do I know that some careless driver or drunk driver won't crash their car into my house and hurt my family? I don't. Should I demand that no one be able to drive because there's a small chance that my family will be hurt?
That's how I look at covid restrictions. The odds of someone doing real harm to another person is very low, and those people have plenty of ways to mitigate that risk on their end. But ultimately there is risk. We just need to accept that and move on.
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
We don’t agree, but that’s never changed.
truecoat
Well-Known Member
Car accidents aren't contagious. This is a ridiculous analogy.
BuzzedPotatoHead89
Well-Known Member
Bad optics or not, good faith arguments or not, the end result is the same regardless. When it comes to enacting a policy, the interrelated optics are like a pile of dirty socks. Sure, it may stink for awhile but once the laundry is cleaned all is largely forgotten.
Time to get those vaccine passports fired up. Los Angeles is next.
Proof of COVID vaccination would be required to enter public indoor spaces under LA council proposal
Proof of at least partial vaccination against COVID-19 would be required to enter public indoor spaces in the city of Los Angeles under a new proposal.
abc7.com
SoCalDisneyLover
Well-Known Member
It's WAY too late. These measures should have been done weeks ago. The cake is in the oven, and it's almost done. Our course won't deviate for 4-6 weeks at this point.
And many of the states where things are the worst, are doing diddly.
I predicted that August would be Ugly, and that's proving to be true, yet we're only 4 days in. We're working on September now, and soon enough, it will be too late to save that month as well.
And many of the states where things are the worst, are doing diddly.
I predicted that August would be Ugly, and that's proving to be true, yet we're only 4 days in. We're working on September now, and soon enough, it will be too late to save that month as well.
How would that help? He would have pulled his mask down to sneeze into his hand anyway.
Nyc is only accepting state issued or CDC issued physical/digital ID cards that have a QR code that can be verified in the state or CDC database when scanned.
Doesn't mean someone won't find a way to hack the system, but honestly, this is a very, very dangerous, slippery slope to go down.
Yet, during the so called pandemic, I have travelled over 10,000 miles across about 25 states, starting June of last year. Wearing a mask only when required (which was about 10% of the time). Only time I got sick was from food poisoning. Why? Because I made sure to get out in the sun and do things to keep my immune system healthy. My closest friends and my wife did similar things with similar results. You know the ones who got sick the most often? The ones who diligently wore their masks and stayed at home whenever possible and many of them got COVID and none of us had any physical contact with them, so no can say we have it to them.Bad optics or not, good faith arguments or not, the end result is the same regardless. When it comes to enacting a policy, the interrelated optics are like a pile of dirty socks. Sure, it may stink for awhile but once the laundry is cleaned all is largely forgotten.
Time to get those vaccine passports fired up. Los Angeles is next.
Proof of COVID vaccination would be required to enter public indoor spaces under LA council proposal
Proof of at least partial vaccination against COVID-19 would be required to enter public indoor spaces in the city of Los Angeles under a new proposal.
BuzzedPotatoHead89
Well-Known Member
Glad to hear you are vaccinated!
I also do agree with some of the points you raised:
1) The slippery slope fallacy is sometimes not always a fallacy and even “temporary” measures in the interest of the “public good” are permanent or based on more arbitrary metrics in furtherance of less objective goals.
2) vaccine hesitancy is real and understandable. And further institutional barriers like access to care, language barriers, class, and historical distrust still exist that would create an “invisible wall” in implementing these policies.
3) Even large companies - like the insurer you cite, or individual employers - sometimes have compliance challenges which can create abrasion and risks unnecessary rejection of services.
Were it up to me I’d prefer this not reach this apex point either, and that a greater sense of patriotism, and collective concern drove those who could get vaccinated to get jabbed. But ultimately the government (and in some cases the private sector) finds itself in a catch-22 with the risk of even stronger, more resistant variants on the horizon.