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News Disneyland modifies mask policy - UPDATE 7/28/21
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iLikeMountains
Member
Fight bad speech with better speech. Not censorship and shaming, this typically has the opposite effect and induces an emotional response where the person will dig their heals in and harden their ideas further.
BuzzedPotatoHead89
Well-Known Member
I’m always interested in having conversation but keep in mind I’ve spent many hours reviewing the studies including sitting in on meetings with the CDC advisory committee - ACIP and FDA - and my opinions on the value of the vax are pretty baked.
Keep in mind that every source has a bias and no vaccine is 100% effective. But ultimately in my view two administrations with two very politically diverse/different Surgeon Generals and CDC directors and countless career staff and scientific experts do agree. To me that counts a lot more than any talking heads in the blogosphere or proclaimed media experts.
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
COVID isn't political. Vaccines aren't political. Well, they shouldn't be in any case.
I don't want to break the rules here, but I will say you bring up a good point. Getting a safe and effective vaccine into arms as soon as possible has been the goal of the federal government across two administrations.
The consistent and unified approach should make it clear that getting vaccinated is the best thing anyone can do right now.
Jefro
Active Member
This.
Jefro
Active Member
Seriously. Hoping folks don't ruin my chances of an anniversary trip this year. And many many other's as well. Some permanentlyWell I guess it's safe to say many of us saw this coming!
I'm not blaming Disney of course, I understand they want to be on the safe side as they SHOULD be. And I think as long as they can stay open, they will do whatever they have to or asked of them.
But don't be too surprised we may be asked to stand 6 feet apart, socially distanced on rides, etc again. It may stop at just wearing masks, but once again we are going in the WRONG direction, even with a vaccine.
It was fun to go on DL birthday without a mask and just enjoy the day as we did before this mess started. We still plan to go back next month, but I'll see how things are going, but we have two more days on our PH, so we'll see.
But seriously, just get $#%@ vaccinated and this goes away sooner than later! My god.
Tamandua
Well-Known Member
The dumbest people I've ever met thought they were the smartest, and many of them had various letters after their names. You can literally link quotes from various health officials and get called a conspiracy theorist around here. I guess I don't blame people for doubting the CDC and WHO after they've taken every possible position imaginable.
Having doubts or hesitancy is different from presuming one without the profession knows more just because.
My mechanic may be wrong about how often I should need an oil change, it may be overcautious to recommend, but I know what can happen if I don't listen to the professional at all when I think I know what my car needs.
BuzzedPotatoHead89
Well-Known Member
He’s not wrong. Knowing how Dr. Ghaly has handled this it wouldn’t shock me…. Though I’m not opining in any direction on the recall.
That said this is part of the reason I think we’d be better off trying to implement reasonable measures now (I.e. universal masking, social distancing, etc.) than a complete shutdown.
If I were representing the state theme park trade association right now behind the scenes I’d be looking at what other venues are doing as a “fallback plan” (to avoid a full closure and a cancellation of the highly lucrative Halloween season) for the fall.
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Communicora
Premium Member
The mods just asked us to leave politics out of this and yet you post this?
Tamandua
Well-Known Member
I'm being sarcastic. I don't think he's far right at all. He's just making a reasonable assessment of the situation, and yet such a claim would be labeled a far right conspiracy theory by many here.
Communicora
Premium Member
Why even bring up the recall?
Tamandua
Well-Known Member
To quote the guy from fresh baked Disney (I don't remember his name), he says that the date of the recall is the next important date in the progression of theme parks either continuing to move towards normalcy or regressing into restrictions and shutdowns. The outcome of the recall will likely yield vastly different outcomes for theme parks in California. It's very relevant to the topic at hand.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Mr. Takei needs to take his act on the road, instead of just hiding on Twitter and making fun of non-Asians who are not yet vaccinated.
In Mr. Takei's home state of California and community of Los Angeles County, the data on who is not vaccinated, or who are "anti-vaxxers", is very clear;
Los Angeles County Vaccination Rates as of July 29th, 2021
Asians = 77% Vaccinated
Whites = 67% Vaccinated
Latinos = 54% Vaccinated
Blacks = 45% Vaccinated
Mr. Takei's own city of 10+ Million mirrors national trends, so it's not just an LA thing for him. If he feels strongly about it, he should get out into his own city and rustle up some rides to vaccinations. Making jokes on Twitter seems to be in poor taste for him, in my opinion.
LA County COVID-19 Vaccine Dashboard - LA County Department of Public Health
publichealth.lacounty.gov
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TP2000
Well-Known Member
Sounds good. Didn't the unions already agree to this sort of thing years ago when they vaccinated thousands of CM's against the Measles after the Measles outbreak in 2015?
Seems like there's recent precedence for large scale onsite vaccinations.
Most big corporate employers also give out free Flu shots to their employees. Does Disneyland not do that?
Stevek
Well-Known Member
You can’t be surprised that certain members can’t listen