News Disneyland Magic Key Program

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Disappointing. same system as before with just more block out dates on some tiers. payment plans being available is shocking. passholes should count their lucky stars, this could have been worse. no one has a right to complain over this new offering if they were a former passholder.

Why did you feel it was going to be more customer friendly? That has not been the pattern with any annuals since the Bob’s were left with the keys

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It’s also a possible this could be “intro pricing”…like the DDP in what used to be the restaurants in wdw

 

[Newtwo]

filled the park

That's where you're wrong friendo

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Is park hopping a single reservation or does it count as two?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They already made a statement on that as part of this announcement:

That’s the 8/16 date that was pegged months ago when they rather ambiguous magic band removal from passes was leaked out.

some people are very good at reading the signs

 

[Jefro]

Ok, another Q for the knowledgeable. If we upgrade our tickets to the new AP while there, Sept 6th, which is blocked out on most passes, we won't then have to redo our reservations will we ? We technically should be able to still access on the 6th...right?

 

[el_super]

Limited Capacity…

What limited capacity? There have been no regulations on capacity at Disneyland (save for fire code) since June 15th.

they have the data…why are we assuming they have the demand past the initial stir crazy lockdown breakout? That’s not gonna last.

Yeah but suggesting that the pent-up-demand has run it's course for future bookings, is different from trying to suggest that maximizing their yield for the past four months was a mistake.

You are right that the pandemic MIGHT be still impacting the decision making. Without the APs they would have seen a decrease in bookings in the fall as the traditional tourist patterns held. People would be going back to school and NOT visiting Disneyland. Add in the continually depressed international tourism, and hesitation surrounding the delta variant, and most assuredly they were looking at a massive drop off of bookings for Oct-Dec (as is tradition).

But that's all a completely different argument than saying that they were wrong to charge everyone $150 to get in during the summer. They weren't.

 

[Newtwo]

What limited capacity? There have been no regulations on capacity at Disneyland (save for fire code) since June 15th.

FACE

PALM

 

[Jefro]

Is park hopping a single reservation or does it count as two?

You pick the park to start like now, from what I am seeing, and then you can swap parks at 1pm

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What limited capacity? There have been no regulations on capacity at Disneyland (save for fire code) since June 15th.




Yeah but suggesting that the pent-up-demand has run it's course for future bookings, is different from trying to suggest that maximizing their yield for the past four months was a mistake.

You are right that the pandemic MIGHT be still impacting the decision making. Without the APs they would have seen a decrease in bookings in the fall as the traditional tourist patterns held. People would be going back to school and NOT visiting Disneyland. Add in the continually depressed international tourism, and hesitation surrounding the delta variant, and most assuredly they were looking at a massive drop off of bookings for Oct-Dec (as is tradition).

But that's all a completely different argument than saying that they were wrong to charge everyone $150 to get in during the summer. They weren't.

What I’m saying is that the covid situation - mainly the fact it’s probably gonna be a restricted winter again - would figure considerably into this decision

and the summer is just a couple of months…I don’t think they did the wrong thing charging for that…but they need the annuals for the other 7/8/9 months…which means you have to “suffer” them in the summer. They have no choice.

 

[CaptinEO]

The pass names are dumb. I miss when it was Silver, Deluxe, Platinum. Why is it a key? And let me talk about it again, its a 20 dollar fee to get a physical pass, which is just a piece of paper. It's cell phone only.

I'll take great pride in printing out a screenshot of the barcode from my phone and laminating it.

 

[Tamandua]

So are they cutting off the legacy passholder discounts on the 25th? I was planning to use it next month.

 

[SplashGhost]

Anything below the Believe Key seems pretty worthless, but this isn't that bad overall, especially since the Believe Key gets half priced parking. I kind of want to see how short term availability is for reservations before I buy one myself. I would hate to pay for it and have zero chance to actually get in the park unless I am able to book a reservation the second it turns 3am 90 days before I want to go.

And this will do nothing to make the parks less crowed. Thanks to the Imagine Key, off season weekdays will continue to be the absolute worst days to visit the parks.

 

[Mouse Trap]

The biggest thing we can draw from Magic Key is TWDC does not hate AP’s nearly as much as insiders and plenty on this forum wanted us to believe.

The old system was totally broken, but there is clearly a need for repeat and local visitors.

 

[Mouse Trap]

Anything below the Believe Key seems pretty worthless, but this isn't that bad overall, especially since the Believe Key gets half priced parking. I kind of want to see how short term availability is for reservations before I buy one myself. I would hate to pay for it and have zero chance to actually get in the park unless I am able to book a reservation the second it turns 3am 90 days before I want to go.

And this will do nothing to make the parks less crowed. Thanks to the Imagine Key, off season weekdays will continue to be the absolute worst days to visit the parks.

Not exactly. For a while I only had a weekday pass to WDW. It was nice to go in the evenings every so often to grab dinner and a couple of rides.

 

[Jefro]

Anything below the Believe Key seems pretty worthless, but this isn't that bad overall, especially since the Believe Key gets half priced parking. I kind of want to see how short term availability is for reservations before I buy one myself. I would hate to pay for it and have zero chance to actually get in the park unless I am able to book a reservation the second it turns 3am 90 days before I want to go.

And this will do nothing to make the parks less crowed. Thanks to the Imagine Key, off season weekdays will continue to be the absolute worst days to visit the parks.

Off season weekdays are perfect for us. Sorry that it is not a good fit on your end. We are only there a few times a year at most anyway. Hate weekends at DL. Always a mess and crowded in prior years.

 

[Tamandua]

I was mocked for saying the AP program would be back this summer.

 

[SplashGhost]

Not exactly. For a while I only had a weekday pass to WDW. It was nice to go in the evenings every so often to grab dinner and a couple of rides.

In SoCal, most visitors have the cheapest pass so those days always tended to be extremely crowded. Plus the earlier closing times made things worse also.

 

[MurphyJoe]

It’s also a possible this could be “intro pricing”…like the DDP in what used to be the restaurants in wdw

Disney might be waiting to see how passholders purchase paid FP options, if they are coming, before adjusting prices and benefits.

 

[drizzitduddenbunnies]

Is park hopping a single reservation or does it count as two?

The fine print says:
"Magic Key holders who have a park reservation for both theme parks may cross over and switch between parks on the same day beginning at 1:00 PM."
So that makes it sound like to park hop, you need two reservations.