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Disneyland Fantasmic Dragon Engulfed in Flames
- Thread starter SplashJacket
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photomatt
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Potrock was in the VIP section celebrating with his lackeys once the show was over. They all seemed pleased.
I didn't see Iger or The Hair. I'm sure even they weren't interested in seeing the show without the dragon.
I was in the BB section when F! returned after the shutdown two years ago and again last night. There was more energy in the crowd yesterday than there was two years ago. I hope that management doesn't mistake the energy of last night's show for general approval of all the cuts they made. Last night's crowd consisted of the hardest of the Disney die-hards, and they are pretty easy to please. I don't think the general public will be willing to consistently shell out money for dining packages if they don't bring Murphy back. No one wants a dragon on a stick again. We want Murphy or his/her sibling. We also want Ursula and the crocodile. If they keep making cuts, F! will just be another WoC, and no one wants that.
TP2000
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MoonRakerSCM
Well-Known Member
I have not kept up with the show news because the 2017 version is an absolute travesty.
Thay being said, I was under the assumption that the show was returning now due to having been repaired. What on earth have they been doing for the past year?
Thay being said, I was under the assumption that the show was returning now due to having been repaired. What on earth have they been doing for the past year?
Squishy
Well-Known Member
They spent a year refurbishing burnt & broken equipment & animating a crocodile
Walt_Disney
Active Member
So are they not having a dragon? Is this confirmed by Disney? Or is it that the dragon just wasn’t ready yet?
TheCoasterNerd
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Not ready yet. It will be soon. Don't worry!
Disgruntled Walt
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Source?
choco choco
Well-Known Member
I'm old enough to remember when the Flotsam and Jetsam eel figures were a part of the show. I found them terrific. No idea when they left, but if the Ursula figure is too tall these two certainly could have worked.
choco choco
Well-Known Member
They are not having a dragon. This is confirmed by Disney.
PiratesMansion
Well-Known Member
Yes.
Everything Disney has put out about this current iteration of Fantasmic has *clearly stated* that the dragon would not be returning with the show; at least, not immediately.
TheCoasterNerd
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Someone who would know.
Movielover
Well-Known Member
Pretty much what I expected, simple choreography dance to replace the destroyed flying carpet, B-Mode Climax with additional shiny sparkles to distract from no dragon, and a AA Crocodile-less Peter Pan segment due to the ROA makeover.
Guess we will see how long this "temporary" version will last.
Guess we will see how long this "temporary" version will last.
yensidtlaw1969
Well-Known Member
People seem to greatly underestimate the amount of damage that was done to the show during the Dragon's cataclysm. With all the unseen infrastructure that was destroyed, investigations, safety reevaluations, gutting and then rebuilding that had to happen, all while the park operated daily around it, it sort of is amazing that the show is back within about year, even with significant pieces missing. People seem to think the Dragon alone was damaged and could just be easily pulled out. The truth is so much more than the Dragon was damaged that I don't think I would have been terribly shocked if Disney had instead just closed the show permanently.
Now, I DO think it's fair to say the show underwhelms without the Dragon. It does. But I am sort of surprised by how many people seem surprised by the current scene - I haven't paid particularly close attention to developments here, and even I felt like Disney has been pretty clear for a while that the show would be Dragonless upon its initial return. I guess I'm not sure what people expected that's super different from what they did with the scene.
If it helps any, add my voice to the chorus of those saying a new Dragon is being created - everyone I've spoken to who would know has told me this is genuinely in the works. Part of the issue is that Murphy was already so notorious for issues that there was never a chance they would just rebuild her as she was. Add to it that needing a new Dragon to be designed from the ground up was a sudden and completely unexpected project, and that the space in which she would have to be housed was absolutely obliterated . . . They couldn't properly start in earnest right away, lots needed to be understood and reconfigured before they could begin proper conversations of what a new, safer but still impressive Dragon might be that could be integrated into the rebuilt stage.
I wish it were done already too, and am pretty quick to hound Disney for taking the cheap way out. But to the people asking what they spent the last year doing, the answer is actually a ton. I'm hoping the new Dragon joins sooner rather than later, but I'd also rather they take the time to get this one really right. Maybe it would have been better if they held back the whole show until a new Dragon was ready, but restoring even it to where it is now was not actually as easy a fix as some seem to think.
Now, I DO think it's fair to say the show underwhelms without the Dragon. It does. But I am sort of surprised by how many people seem surprised by the current scene - I haven't paid particularly close attention to developments here, and even I felt like Disney has been pretty clear for a while that the show would be Dragonless upon its initial return. I guess I'm not sure what people expected that's super different from what they did with the scene.
If it helps any, add my voice to the chorus of those saying a new Dragon is being created - everyone I've spoken to who would know has told me this is genuinely in the works. Part of the issue is that Murphy was already so notorious for issues that there was never a chance they would just rebuild her as she was. Add to it that needing a new Dragon to be designed from the ground up was a sudden and completely unexpected project, and that the space in which she would have to be housed was absolutely obliterated . . . They couldn't properly start in earnest right away, lots needed to be understood and reconfigured before they could begin proper conversations of what a new, safer but still impressive Dragon might be that could be integrated into the rebuilt stage.
I wish it were done already too, and am pretty quick to hound Disney for taking the cheap way out. But to the people asking what they spent the last year doing, the answer is actually a ton. I'm hoping the new Dragon joins sooner rather than later, but I'd also rather they take the time to get this one really right. Maybe it would have been better if they held back the whole show until a new Dragon was ready, but restoring even it to where it is now was not actually as easy a fix as some seem to think.
Disgruntled Walt
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Does the old dragon on a stick still exist somewhere? Or was it scrapped?
gerarar
Premium Member
I recall seeing it online at one of those D23 ticketed events/showcase. But it was just the head piece, so the entire prop is gone at this point and doubt it could be reused.