Disneyland Fantasmic Dragon Engulfed in Flames

Stevek

Well-Known Member
Yes, we could. 🤔

But to do that we'd have to dramatically lower our historical expectations of Disneyland's operation and standards. I'm unwilling to do that, so TDA doesn't get a pass from me for this lessened performance standard for Fantasmic!.



Agreed. God help us if they keep using 2024's lowered standards into 2025 and beyond.
The reality is that folks on this board are going to be far more demanding or critical of the current Fantasmic. Most of the guests that are packing the area and spending ridiculous amounts for prime seating don't care. They are just happy it's back.
 

TheCoasterNerd

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Your "There is a thread for that" would have been fine. The "not the place" was not necessary. Keep in mind that a lot of people in the Disneyland thread don't visit the WDW threads. I was only pointing out that there was a new show but appreciate you policing the board for us.
Sorry.. just trying to point you in the right direction....
 

VJ

Well-Known Member
I don’t think people are completely okay with that but it’s live entertainment. Things are always going to go wrong. The alternative is cancel the show.
when it's a big set piece like maleficent vs mickey which is already running in b-mode, i personally don't think disney can afford to run it in "c-mode". is "d-mode" 5 techs dancing around the stage with flashlights? where does it stop?

if it were up to me the show would go dark and be temporarily replaced by something a la wdw's "taste of fantasmic" until the dragon is fixed and the show can run at 100%. i do understand that this is an unpopular opinion, and that the common mindset is that "something is better than nothing", but as disney held itself to such high standards for so long it's difficult for me to accept the lowered standards of today.
 

PiratesMansion

Well-Known Member
Shows go on with hiccups sometimes. Tech malfunctions or other unforeseen issues can occur. It happens everywhere that live entertainment is a thing. There's no such thing as a piece of entertainment where nothing goes wrong ever. If it's a regular thing, THEN it makes more sense to complain about it.

I get that B mode is suboptimal, but clearly they felt most people would rather see the show than wait much longer for it to come back with everything perfect, and in the grand scheme of things, that's probably the correct decision from the perspective of most parkgoers. If there's a huge failure or safety issue, of course, suspend performances. If *one thing* doesn't work and it's not a safety issue, they're gonna still run it.

There were certainly Fantasmic performances in the early nineties where not everything worked, people just didn't notice because there weren't 30 cell phones livestreaming every performance or huge internet communities tracking every single blemish or imperfection in the parks.
 

Disney Analyst

Well-Known Member
Shows go on with hiccups sometimes. Tech malfunctions or other unforeseen issues can occur. It happens everywhere that live entertainment is a thing. There's no such thing as a piece of entertainment where nothing goes wrong ever. If it's a regular thing, THEN it makes more sense to complain about it.

I get that B mode is suboptimal, but clearly they felt most people would rather see the show than wait much longer for it to come back with everything perfect, and in the grand scheme of things, that's probably the correct decision from the perspective of most parkgoers. If there's a huge failure or safety issue, of course, suspend performances. If *one thing* doesn't work and it's not a safety issue, they're gonna still run it.

There were certainly Fantasmic performances in the early nineties where not everything worked, people just didn't notice because there weren't 30 cell phones livestreaming every performance or huge internet communities tracking every single blemish or imperfection in the parks.

I agree. Especially with all the dining packages, it’s a nightmare to cancel unless absolutely necessary.

The Columbia not working used to be an immediate cancel, and we now see they are able to tow it out if needed (as shown on opening night).
 

Disney Analyst

Well-Known Member
The real question I have is… why are some nights without stunts on the Columbia? The night we had our dining package (a Wednesday), everyone just stood on the bottom of the ship flailing their arms about. It didn’t even look like the crew rigged the ship.

No pirate flag at the very top, no dropping flag that the pirate slides down with a knife, no one moved from their assigned positions.

On Friday night the stunts and rigging were all up and running normally.
 

VJ

Well-Known Member
Disney has hinted, and insiders have concurred, that the fire breathing dragon will be back.

Does a company with an "underground bar" do that?
in the post you replied to, i'm speaking specifically about the "c-mode" that i linked to in my post prior to that - as sad as the current b-mode show is, the "c-mode" is a downgrade to a downgrade, and that's what i mean when i say the bar is so low that it is underground. whether the dragon is planned to return is irrelevant to my point - i'm talking about what's happening now, not what is planned for the future.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
in the post you replied to, i'm speaking specifically about the "c-mode" that i linked to in my post prior to that - as sad as the current b-mode show is, the "c-mode" is a downgrade to a downgrade, and that's what i mean when i say the bar is so low that it is underground. whether the dragon is planned to return is irrelevant to my point - i'm talking about what's happening now, not what is planned for the future.
My bad. My apologies.
 

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