News Disney World Cast Member unions to begin week of negotiations for wage increases, healthcare costs and more

[denyuntilcaught]

Disney is offering to raise starting wages by $1 on top of the $19 base rate. That's a 5.26% increase. Anyone think Disney prices won't increase by more than 5.26% if this is the final deal?

They'll raise by 5.26% regardless.

 

[thomas998]

Protests possible this week.
DO NOT CROSS A PICKET LINE.

I'll cross any picket line and be happy doing it. Once upon a time unions served a purpose when workers were exploited across the board, but today there are no company towns or factories using child labor, so no real need for unions in the US... Now China could use them... but that's a different story and more relevant to Apple's iPhones and Disney's merch than to the workers in the parks.

 

[JoeCamel]

I'll cross any picket line and be happy doing it. Once upon a time unions served a purpose when workers were exploited across the board, but today there are no company towns or factories using child labor, so no real need for unions in the US... Now China could use them... but that's a different story and more relevant to Apple's iPhones and Disney's merch than to the workers in the parks.

The reason why is unions.....

 

[matt9112]

Inflation is temporary. Will the salaries go back down when everything gets back to normal?

If the price of goods ever went down I would be ok with your idea. However inflation doesn’t really go down…the federal reserves job is to prevent that.

In fact I can’t think of anytime where a products price went down…and the quality or quantity wasn’t affected.

 

[matt9112]

Exactly. This is something I have never understood about CM's. This is no different than when I worked there decades ago.

I was 19 and did a job any other teenager walking in off the street could do with minimal training. I got paid frankly more than what my skill set was worth when considering benefits.

It was a great gig, never a second of real stress, made friends, met girls, and had a great time. Then moved on to get a real job, learned marketable skills, and had a career.

Why someone who has been waking up Jose every 20 minutes for 30 years thinks they deserve a nickel more than the teenager who learned to do it yesterday is beyond me.

Even worse, in my experience the fresh faced teenager has energy and still is excited about the "magic", while the 30 year vet is often bitter and tired.

In this world, you get paid based on the value of your skills in the marketplace. Simple as that. If you're doing a job a teenager could do, you may want to reevaluate your career choices.

To be fair loyalty should have intrinsic value. Because it’s so common for people to chase a raise and bounce from company to company. Rewarding people isn’t a bad thing. Not doing so just increased turn over and creates a more hostile work force when people will jump ship for a dollar.

 

[Lilofan]

To be fair loyalty should have intrinsic value. Because it’s so common for people to chase a raise and bounce from company to company. Rewarding people isn’t a bad thing. Not doing so just increased turn over and creates a more hostile work force when people will jump ship for a dollar.

Too many times I've seen peers jump ship for another job that pays more only to regret and at times return. Sometimes the grass is not greener on the other side.

 

[thomas998]

The reason why is unions.....

No, at this point US labor laws are more than enough. Unions only create environments that breed mediocrity and punish productivity.

 

[Lilofan]

No, at this point US labor laws are more than enough. Unions only create environments that breed mediocrity and punish productivity.

Yes , the unproductive and productive workers working on the same team make the same pay and raise per the negotiated union contract.

 

[Patcheslee]

Yes , the unproductive and productive workers working on the same team make the same pay and raise per the negotiated union contract.

Only if the union has negotiated pay raise that way. Many at my job have been POd the 2020 contact changed to review based point system. Based on quality, production, safety, attendance, and team work. Only team work is judgment vs set standards, so if someone doesn't pull their weight it's their own fault they don't get a raise.

 

[Kamikaze]

I'll cross any picket line and be happy doing it. Once upon a time unions served a purpose when workers were exploited across the board, but today there are no company towns or factories using child labor, so no real need for unions in the US... Now China could use them... but that's a different story and more relevant to Apple's iPhones and Disney's merch than to the workers in the parks.

You're either young and naïve or old and have a pension.

 

[thomas998]

Yes , the unproductive and productive workers working on the same team make the same pay and raise per the negotiated union contract.

Oh, it is worse than that. I've known people that were told by the shop stewards that they were working too hard and needed to slow down because they didn't want management to know how much work was actually possible.

 

[thomas998]

You're either young and naïve or old and have a pension.

I'm simply intelligent enough to see reality and not listen to the liberal noise spreading myths.

 

[Lilofan]

Oh, it is worse than that. I've known people that were told by the shop stewards that they were working too hard and needed to slow down because they didn't want management to know how much work was actually possible.

Sad but true. If one wanted to earn more income , drop out of the union to avoid paying dues and still get the same raise as the union weekly paying members. Seems like a no brainer to me. Shop stewards still have to represent union and non union if needed regardless.

 

[Zummi Gummi]

I'll cross any picket line and be happy doing it. Once upon a time unions served a purpose when workers were exploited across the board, but today there are no company towns or factories using child labor, so no real need for unions in the US... Now China could use them... but that's a different story and more relevant to Apple's iPhones and Disney's merch than to the workers in the parks.

I'm not getting involved in this debate, but needed to point out this does still occur in the U.S., as recently as last month:

Labor Department Finds 31 Children Cleaning Meatpacking Plants

 

[Andrew C]

I'm not getting involved in this debate, but needed to point out this does still occur in the U.S., as recently as last month:

Labor Department Finds 31 Children Cleaning Meatpacking Plants

Good thing we have laws on the books (like child labor laws) and a court system to properly deal with such instances

 

[Tony the Tigger]

If the price of goods ever went down I would be ok with your idea. However inflation doesn’t really go down…the federal reserves job is to prevent that.

In fact I can’t think of anytime where a products price went down…and the quality or quantity wasn’t affected.

Gas every month?

 

[Andrew C]

Gas every month?

Don't get me started....

 

[EricsBiscuit]

The reason why is unions.....

No the reason is increased productivity thanks to investment.

 

[Prince-1]

I'm simply intelligent enough to see reality and not listen to the liberal noise spreading myths.

But the conservative noise is even louder. Do you listen to that?

 

[JoeCamel]

No the reason is increased productivity thanks to investment.

Yeah, you went to one of those history classes that leaves out the ugly parts