With Universal not being unionized is their staff guaranteed 32 hours for full time like Disney full time cast per union contract? Back in the day I worked for a golf resort and if no heads on beds, lowest on seniority / housekeeping were taken off the workload and went to collect unemployment.
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
News Disney World Cast Member unions to begin week of negotiations for wage increases, healthcare costs and more
- Thread starter wdwmagic
- Start date
Lil Copter Cap
Well-Known Member
This entirely.
People love to rattle on about how CMs are the magic of a Disney vacation and then in the same breath mention it’s unskilled labor.
There’s an emotional and mental side of employment people refuse to acknowledge. If CMs were consistently rude or provided nothing beyond scanning items at a checkout counter, the argument would likely be to lower wages as they aren’t truly contributing to a magical experience.
Orlando’s cost of living has risen astronomically in recent years. Disney, like most companies, likely look at and pay for Cost of Labor in the area. They don’t care about a 1-bedroom apartment rising to $1,550 a month. They want to look at nearby businesses and pay just a little more than their competition to retain their workforce. (Or provide more perks/benefits)
Which is exactly why Universal, who is going to also be in a hiring crisis come Epic Universe’s opening, is laying the ground work now. And them laying out this new hourly rate will more than likely force Disney’s hand.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I get that…but you gotta be REAL miserable at home for your “escapes” to be this all encompassing
In years of boards…I find that the ones most adamant that everyone serve them and be “magical” all the time…
Are the ones to go on boards and want them to bleed and be exploited…like Stamps
Last edited:
Yes rents are high when I used to rent. I decided to get roommates to split the costs. One other option which I did when I thought out of the box was moving to an area where rent was less but that's just me saying and doing.
the_rich
Well-Known Member
Have you read some of these posts? They are miserable.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Sounds like a reasonable compromise. Meet in the middle."Disney spokesperson Andrea Finger also told News 6 that the company provided an option to accelerate wage increases, which would bring all current non-tipped cast members up to at least $17 per hour upon ratification — and many more increasing to $20 per hour within the first year."
Contract negotiations resume between Florida Disney workers’ union and company
Union leaders returned to the bargaining table with Disney Wednesday in hopes of figuring out a new contract.www.clickorlando.com
So who's not being upfront about what's being proposed?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
32 hours is a ticket to bankruptcy…the other side of the spectrum is mandatory 6 and you can’t cover your kids
It’s a full time gig at comparatively low pay…so it’s always gonna be difficult.
But in Florida - right to work - non-mandatory unions eliminates work stoppages…which kills bargaining power.
I always highly caution to use the word “union” in Florida…or doesn’t fit the old system of the north.
The main tool the trades have their is using PR against Disney…that’s their Achilles
But I don’t know how much widespread sympathy they will get for $18 an hour under the conditions? Disneys prices hurt their case…as does inflation.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
No…they ARE the magic
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Don’t think they’ll budge…the proxy fight/stock thing is hanging over them
I'd think when the landlord finds out his or her tenants earning more, then they will charge more for rent accordingly.
Rich Brownn
Well-Known Member
All you need to know is while the front lines get little, CEO's salaries and benefits increased between 200-400% in the last 10 years.I do not think the scope of the issue is understood here.
First Disney lost 1.5 billion in streaming in last Q4 and lost 630 million last year in those same 3 months. Paying 40 thousand workers for the parks at 4 bucks an hour cost them what? 160K every 4 months? This entire thing is a joke. They can lose half a billion to a very close to 2 billion in a 3 month span, but worry about paying their greatest asset 160 K more every 3 months?
Pay your greatest asset, your front line park worker! The parks are the only thing that consistently make Disney money. Lets say all new benefits cost Disney 2 million every 3 months for the workers, it's still not going to effect stockholders money as much as the decision making of the company itself.
Never compare minimum wage to what a person making should be happy with nor with what a large company with power should be paying them. That min wage is for small start ups not huge billion dollar companies where the top 50 people at the company make what the 40 thousand workers that run the place make. It is not those top 50 people that run the place. Pay is commensurate with value and the park workers are their most valuable thing. WDW need remember that.
1 bedroom apartments, just as bad as LA, New York and Boston. 1700 to 3700 from 1 to 3 bedrooms. Yes, you can get a 3 bedroom for 1300, but hard to find and not the greatest areas. Orlando areas now cost of living is what I came from when I moved here, they now have caught up, its never going back. Take a good look at this link then get back on whether anyone could live on even 18 an hour. It is now like other larger metro areas, glad I bought 5 years ago. Orlando is never going back to being cheap, but it will level off in 5 years so so.
Apartments For Rent in Orlando FL - 10,165 Rentals | Apartments.com
We simplify the process of finding a new apartment by offering renters the most comprehensive database including millions of detailed and accurate apartment listings across the United States. Our innovative technology includes the POLYGON™ search tool that allows users to define their own search...www.apartments.com
Rich Brownn
Well-Known Member
$53 million is 50% of Iger's yearly income from Disney
Rich Brownn
Well-Known Member
When I was P/T at Universal I almost always ended up with a 40 hour week, never less than 30. If my attraction was slow, there were always ones that needed "rescue" (i.e., loaned out) employees. While my homes were DISASTER! and Hogwarts Express, I got rescued out to ET, Dragons, Beetlejuice show, and MIB (all in non-safety positions of course)
You are Mr Jack of All Trades cross trained in many areas!
That’s a sweet salary, performance bonuses set up the Disney Board set up for Iger!
el_super
Well-Known Member
Since Iger has returned, the stock has increased about $10. Creating almost 20 billion in shareholder value.
His comments on Hulu might end up saving the company $10 billion more dollars.
Seems like he is a good investment.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Most wdw Emps are not 25 year old, unattached CP alums…
The majority have families, responsibilities and stretch…
So that plan isn’t as good as you think
Ayla
Well-Known Member
And es off customers. (Really, p i s s e s is censored?
)
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
What happens to that stock price if every WDW employee decides not to show up for work?
Last edited:
Rich Brownn
Well-Known Member
Actually, when you "rescue" out you're put into what they call non safety roles (ones that don't require training). At ET, for example, all I did was scan cards and type in names. At Dragons, worked the metal detector. My home positions I was trained for (In fact, if you watch the video of the last DISASTER! show, there I am onstage!)