Who cares? He has that whole total consciousness thing going for him, which is nice.
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News Disney World Cast Member unions to begin week of negotiations for wage increases, healthcare costs and more
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Those low wage jobs can be easily filled with individuals new to our great country. It is just that little item requiring a social security card and other documentation that gets in the way in the application process.Your welcome- I’m glad if I’ve helped people know that their time is worth fair compensation
Many are… that’s why there is such a lack of employees for “low wage” jobs. The whole thing is blowing up in these company faces and I love seeing it.
TrainsOfDisney
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No that’s not my point at all. I think working at Disney World (and anywhere else) is a real job and should be fairly compensated.
Sure, raise the wages and that $13 undercooked reheated Fred Flinstone size turkey leg at MK will cost more . Higher wages will be passed onto us the consumer in higher pricing.
TrainsOfDisney
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Since Disney will be raising prices either way I don’t see how that is an issue.
If ran a small business if I raised my staff wages surely I’m passing on these costs to my customers.
TrainsOfDisney
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If you thought your product was worth that much and that your customers would pay it why wouldn’t you charge that much to begin with?
lazyboy97o
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Ok fine. Walt Disney World employees being paid several dollars more would require across the board price increases measured in cents. Can we retire this trite excuse now?
Excuse no, reality yes.
lazyboy97o
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No, it’s a lame, dishonest excuse. You and others want people to think these price increases would be dramatic and very noticeable when they absolutely would not. The required price increases are so small as to be negligible, there’s absolutely no point in mentioning other than to try to scare people into thinking better pay is not realistically viable.
Cents, indeed. Just doing rough calculations - a $5/hr increase for 55,000 full time CMs amounts to $300 million over 52 weeks. Spread that out and even all the "if I ran a small business" armchair economists could surely get out their fancy calculators and figure out that it wouldn't be some massive increase in labor costs. I don't know how a company with net profits in the billions could handle such an increase. It would shut the place down if they didn't pass all of those on to the consumers in the form of dramatically higher prices across the board.
Higher pay cuts into operating expenses and profits so damn sure I’m raising prices
The person who applied and agreed and took the job at the time thought it was fair, there is no indentured servitude going on. Freedom. Not easy sometimes, but freedom.
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TrainsOfDisney
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I don’t think anyone suggested there was indentured servitude at Disney - just suggesting that full time Disney cast members should be adequately and fairly paid for their time.
lazyboy97o
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Clearly not enough people are agreeing. Pay helps, but so does the attitude of Disney and its customers towards employees.
eliza61nyc
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Question, how does Disney pay compare to other businesses in the same industry? Is Disney pays calendar competitive to the market, Not to some pie in the sky, they should all be makings a hundred grand but to others in the theme park/amusement park industry?
Didn't the unions successfully negotiate for a 15/hrs minimum in 2018??
Didn't the unions successfully negotiate for a 15/hrs minimum in 2018??
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TrainsOfDisney
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I haven’t seen anyone suggest $100k per year as a starting salary for WDW CM’s. Half of that, which is $50k = $24 per hour for a 40 hour work week.
The Union is asking for even less… $20 an hour which = $41,600.
Yes. That was 5 years ago. Times change.
eliza61nyc
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Times always change, which is why this every position no matter what has to pay liveable wage NEVER works. It's never been sustainable.
Just a brief Google search which brought me to ziprecruiter and Purdue university a person with one kid in Orlando to live comfortably needs to make at least 34/hrs. I don't live there so I cannot give an opinion if it's accurate and of course the whole argument is subjective.
The site living wage says 1 adult, 0 kids would be able to get by at 18.19 hr.
Hey I'm all for the union negotiating the best salary they can for their members, but I'm also a big proponent of self determination and personal responsibility. Entry level positions no matter how many hours you work are for the most part, bottom of the payscale and no just because you show up everyday does not change the nature of the job.
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TrainsOfDisney
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Great! We are on the same page then. WDW CM’s deserve better pay. Glad we agree!
eliza61nyc
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Oh hey, lol that's an easy one for me , I think everyone deserves better pay. Now do I think they should get "liveable " wages?? That's an entirely different animal.
Unions are supposed to do the best they can for their members and Disney is supposed to do the best they can for their shareholders