Disney Union Workers Rally for Better Pay

psukardi

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If I were the king of interns, there would be no such thing as internships.

If I have an intern for 3 months, I can't take a ton of time out of my schedule to get you ramped up; give you meaningful work; double-check your work and then hope I don't have to re-write it from scratch. It takes a new hire at a company a while to get up to speed on a code base. By the time you've got up to speed and I give you a few feature requests or defects your time is almost up. So it's easier to just give you grunt work, let you say you worked at a Fortune 500 and be on your way.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Median capita income per household is one thing, what about cost of living? Or, you can say the greater Orlando area makes as much money on average as Idaho, but does stuff cost the same? Room and board, utilities, food, etc?
So, I'll point you back to the Brooklyn numbers.

Do you want to take the stance that Brooklyn is more expensive, with respect to cost of living, than Orlando?

Or are you suggesting that Idaho Grocery stores and Gas Stations charge multiples of what people pay in Orlando?
 
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Cesar R M

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If I have an intern for 3 months, I can't take a ton of time out of my schedule to get you ramped up; give you meaningful work; double-check your work and then hope I don't have to re-write it from scratch. It takes a new hire at a company a while to get up to speed on a code base. By the time you've got up to speed and I give you a few feature requests or defects your time is almost up. So it's easier to just give you grunt work, let you say you worked at a Fortune 500 and be on your way.

What about those who want to continue as a career after they end their period? Do they need to be trashed as well and never ramped up?
Also, Remember the "employees" who are complaining about low pay at disney, are not the internship ones.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
If I have an intern for 3 months, I can't take a ton of time out of my schedule to get you ramped up; give you meaningful work; double-check your work and then hope I don't have to re-write it from scratch. It takes a new hire at a company a while to get up to speed on a code base. By the time you've got up to speed and I give you a few feature requests or defects your time is almost up. So it's easier to just give you grunt work, let you say you worked at a Fortune 500 and be on your way.
I'd suggest you review the FLSA definition of an "intern" then.

Because what you just described is not one.
 

Joe

I'm only visiting this planet.
Premium Member
Disney? Yes. Disney World? No.

The first provision of all Disney World contracts is a no-strike provision.
No-strike clauses in union contracts are only valid during the life of the contract. Once the contract expires the union can go on strike. But it's not really a strike cause there is no contract.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
No-strike clauses in union contracts are only valid during the life of the contract. Once the contract expires the union can go on strike. But it's not really a strike cause there is no contract.

Im not sure thats a fine point the union is willing to risk....
 

slappy magoo

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Are you familiar with what reinsurance is and how it works? (serious question) Can't sell off the risk pool, no insurance company. It's that simple.

Regardless, that's what I said. The premiums are going up because they don't know what to expect, and then (in theory) a few years from now, they'll level out and/or likely decrease.

They will never go back to the rates of last decade however.

The current state of the ACA (or as it is supposed to be when no facets continue to be rolled back or delayed) is that the risk is spread out amongst all insurance companies (no rejections for pre-existing conditions for example), but the insurance companies accept that risk, and the limit of profit they can make as a percentage of money they take in, in exchange for allll those government subsidies so many of their new customers will. Volume volume volume. Whether it's a "fair trade" remains to be seen.

And I'd like to point out there was never any indication that premiums would ever roll back that far to prices of the last decade. The ACA is expected to seriously the increase of healthcare costs, perhaps some years some customers will see premiums roll back. But the last decade? I guess I could have missed some sort of promise a heathcare advocate made that this would happen...
 

Lord_Vader

Join me, together we can rule the galaxy.
I'd really like somebody to address the fact that Orlando has a $23,000 a year median income per capita…

Everything here is just a service job for the Tourists.. And it's all making some corporation rich. And that corporation is not reinvesting in the community that it is milking dry.

I'll bite...

Investments in the community come in many different forms. Sure, the vast majority of jobs are low-income, service industry positions but you are forgetting all the downstream positions created by these companies that are much higher paying such as IT/CIS, network engineering, heavy construction, industrial engineering, architects, legal, and medical to name a few. These jobs are indirect for the most part but companies such as Disney, Comcast, Sea World build a lot of buildings, roads and heavily utilize infrastructure, contribute very heavily to taxes directly and indirectly and generally provide a positive net effect on the area around them.

I am not saying Disney pays front-line cast members well, but how much are area teachers paid, teachers that went to college for 4-6 years to get the undergrad or masters? In my area of the country a teacher starts at about $30,000 a year with a $5,000 bump if they have a masters degree. Pay scales are the direct result supply and demand in your area for the most part, if the job has a low skill requirement the pay is going to be generally very low unless it is also dangerous.
 

Lord_Vader

Join me, together we can rule the galaxy.
If I were the king of interns, there would be no such thing as internships.

I usually agree with you but we usually bring in one intern per summer, usually a college junior or senior working on their undergrad EE. We introduce them to carrier networking elements, business processes, etc. They work with us in the labs to simply get an introduction to network engineering, they are never used to make coffee or gofur as many interns are treated but we also pay them around $15hr so we tend to get the best too.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
I usually agree with you but we usually bring in one intern per summer, usually a college junior or senior working on their undergrad EE. We introduce them to carrier networking elements, business processes, etc. They work with us in the labs to simply get an introduction to network engineering, they are never used to make coffee or gofur as many interns are treated but we also pay them around $15hr so we tend to get the best too.
While the title may be "intern", I would say, given your description, that it's really a part time employee.

(Grin)

Sound like a great experience!
 

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