wdwtopten
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Mine Train has a great show scene (it needs more than one) ... but let's be real.
This is so true. The ride should be twice as long, with two rooms to slow down in.
Mine Train has a great show scene (it needs more than one) ... but let's be real.
It was never meant to be "nice". Disney billed it as a major expansion through media, in park advertising, every channel they could. When you describe it by saying "the biggest expansion in magic kingdom history." that adds a certain expectation in my eyes. This should be exactly why everyone should have a wait and see attitude about anything in the pipeline. While from what has been shown of Avatar it looks very cool, so did NFL, so there is no way I can go all in at this point.But is it any more fair to now say 'it was just meant to be nice'. Thats awfully deceptive and only reaffirms that people should now have the "wait and see" attitude because Disney obviously has no problems with advertising one product and delivering another. Again, not arguing, just asking.
It was never meant to be "nice". Disney billed it as a major expansion through media, in park advertising, every channel they could. When you describe it by saying "the biggest expansion in magic kingdom history." that adds a certain expectation in my eyes. This should be exactly why everyone should have a wait and see attitude about anything in the pipeline. While from what has been shown of Avatar it looks very cool, so did NFL, so there is no way I can go all in at this point.
Look at it this way. If New Fantasyland wasn't supposed to be a big deal, then what was? New Fantasyland is the ONLY thing WDW has had since Expedition Everest that even pretended to be a big deal. That's nearly a decade during which Disney was supposedly setting its sites on "nice".
I really don't know which is worse. If NFL was supposed to be great and fell short or the idea that Disney doesn't even attempt to be great anymore. I'm thinking the latter is worse and probably more accurate.
Fantasyland lost Snow White and gained Beast Castle, Mermaid Ride, Seven Dwarves, and Storytime with Belle. Not to mention increased capacity and better placement thematically for Dumbo(the indoor play area is a godsend)!
I dont understand the comparison between Snow White and Beast Castle? One is an attraction you ride while the other is a forced perspective object you can only look at. Storytime with Belle is an attraction seriously aimed at children. The only enjoyment I would get from it is watching grown adults put a cheap cardboard cut out over their face while convincing themselves that Disney really did a good job with this. 7DMT? Nice, but short, definitely not worth the 4 years it took to design and build it. Mermaid? Clone, nothing new. Increased capacity? Yes, they added that. Dont get me wrong, we enjoy NFL, but I get more excited for so many other things at MK before NFL even crosses my mind.
This exactly... Disney in the last decade has been over promising and under delivering... Watch the Disney World preview channel next time you stay at the resort...they show Rock and Rollercoaster having full dimensional sets (DRIVE THROUGH DONUT) when it is actually just flats...and settings from Phantom Manor as if they are in Disney World's Haunted Mansion... I guess no one notices...It was never meant to be "nice". Disney billed it as a major expansion through media, in park advertising, every channel they could. When you describe it by saying "the biggest expansion in magic kingdom history." that adds a certain expectation in my eyes. This should be exactly why everyone should have a wait and see attitude about anything in the pipeline. While from what has been shown of Avatar it looks very cool, so did NFL, so there is no way I can go all in at this point.
By the way, when are they going to annouce this?
Sometime in the next 24 months...
However, Iger will hint at it every time there's a headline he doesn't want fans to read.
By the way, when are they going to annouce this?
I'm sure something will be at D23 or on May 4th and/or perhaps Star Wars weekends.
Ah ha you're back!Fantasyland lost Snow White and gained Beast Castle, Mermaid Ride, Seven Dwarves, and Storytime with Belle. Not to mention increased capacity and better placement thematically for Dumbo(the indoor play area is a godsend)!
When this guy pretended to be King Kong attacking it?Ah ha you're back!
But since when is Beasts Castle an attraction?
Fantasyland lost Snow White and gained Beast Castle, Mermaid Ride, Seven Dwarves, and Storytime with Belle. Not to mention increased capacity and better placement thematically for Dumbo(the indoor play area is a godsend)!
I'm constantly amazed when I see photos like this with a person in it for scale - the castle looks larger WITH a person next to it than it does without. Somehow, through all the work they did in designing Be Our Guest, the achieved effect is that the Beast's Castle is made to look SMALLER than it is in reality. Forced perspective, when used properly, can amplify minimal resources in an amazing way, and yet here the impact of this apparently large structure is totally diminished. What a bizarre mishandling of an effect Disney's been using for decades.When this guy pretended to be King Kong attacking it?
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