Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment

[trr1]

I agree although marvel is good its not Disney and never will be its to weird to have superheroes at Disney. The themeing doesn't fit as well.

why disney has superheros it has the incredibles , darkwing duck and sky high

 

[trr1]

Keep in mind SIX FLAGS has the dc comic rights so universal cant just use dc comics characters because they will have to fight six flags for them.

Universal might be in a bad position since disney now owns marvel and six flags has the dc comics rights.

well since 6 flags is in bankrucy uni can just buy the parks to get dc comics

 

[hwdelien]

What do you mean want? They already exist:

Its a perfect fit for Disney wanting to market to the youngsters as well as the teens, they have their own cartoon in the works with some pretty big named voices as well.

All I can do is [sigh]. Someone pointed out earlier that they loved the Muppet Babies when they were younger. That's the problem, when they were younger. There's no appeal to adults, the stories lack any kind of complexity that would appeal to an adult. While an adult can enjoy The Little Mermaid, Lion King, etc. because they have humor and complexity for the adults while having lovable empathetic characters that the kids will like. I don't mind (strike that) I enjoy sitting down with my kids to watch a Disney or Pixar movie. But, Muppet Babies, Barney, Mr. Rogers come on there is absolutly no trans-generational value. Super Hero Babie or whatever they are ... :hurl:

 

[FutureCEO]

will anti trust laws come into play with the theme parks?

and how big is to big?...i mean you only have a few worldwide media giants...Disney, Warner, GE, News Corp and Viacom. I might have forgot others. Not to mention outside the US like Sony and Merlin Entertainment (although Merlin is not as nearly as big as the others).

you only a select few big newspaper and magazine companies too

how long is it that Disney, Time Warner and GE are the only sole survival companies and stifles competition or maybe im reading to much into it.

 

[WV_Jayola]

Blackest Night kind of is, and it's certainly one of the more darker things they've done. But I'd say that's more about exploring what happens to characters when they die and sometimes come back to life (and of course providing a major threat out of that), rather than seemingly gimmicky things like Spider-Man eating Mary Jane. I don't think you'll see Superman eating Lois Lane!

Perhaps it's just a case of the grass is always deader on the other side. :lookaroun :lol:



I LOVE IT! It's a pure blast, so much fun, very intense! I've never bought every tie-in for an event like this before.

I keep seeing people say that DC is a better fit for Disney, and that DC is much less dark and more clean cut than Marvel. I'd just like to bring up some points.

* as already discussed, Blackest Night. Dead characters coming back via Black Lantern rings to kill the living. Issue 1, of course, featuring Scar ripping the other guardians throats out and then vomiting black goo on them, and then, a little bit later, Ralph and Sue Dibny brutally bashing Hawkman's brains out after eviscerating Hawkgirl with her own spear.

* and speaking of the Dibny's, lets not forget about The Identity Crisis storyline, where Dr. Light brutally raped Sue Dibny in the Justice League's Watchtower on the moon.

* Infinite Crisis.... Black Adam literally punching his hand THROUGH Psycho Pirates skull. Squishy brainy stuff, exit stage back of Psycho's cranium.

* The Black Hand commiting murder on his whole family, then brutally taking his own light by blowing his brains out.

* I won't even get into DC's Vertigo line of comics, but....yeah.

* The Joker making a man...pleasure himself....to his own daughter.

* The Joker crippling Barbara Gordon, then taking Nude Photo's of her as she lay there.

I could go on and on, but I won't. I'm just saying.....DC is FAR from the clean cut comics line that they are being potrayed as in this thread.

And for the record....I LOVE DC Comics, but I also LOVE Marvel. I just love comics.

And I am super excited to see what Disney does with the Marvel properties. I see nothing but good things ahead.

jeff.

 

[jt04]

All I can do is [sigh]. Someone pointed out earlier that they loved the Muppet Babies when they were younger. That's the problem, when they were younger. There's no appeal to adults, the stories lack any kind of complexity that would appeal to an adult. While an adult can enjoy The Little Mermaid, Lion King, etc. because they have humor and complexity for the adults while having lovable empathetic characters that the kids will like. I don't mind (strike that) I enjoy sitting down with my kids to watch a Disney or Pixar movie. But, Muppet Babies, Barney, Mr. Rogers come on there is absolutly no trans-generational value. Super Hero Babie or whatever they are ... :hurl:

So you expect all content to have appeal to you or it's :hurl:?

:brick:

That is exactly what Disney is not doing. More specifically, it is about creating a very diverse portfolio that has something for everyone!

Sometimes that content will be trans-generational veryconfu) and sometimes it won't. It isn't all about you or any other individual. It's about providing something of quality to every audience.

I have to laugh at the critics who say this is Disney giving in to pressure to have edgier content across all it's platforms and giving up traditional Disney content. NOTHING could be further from the truth. It's about adding it not adopting it wholly.

And the Princess and the Frog and Rapunzel etc. will prove that point.

Iger is a force and in full control of Disney's bright future!

 

[WV_Jayola]

Welp less than 24 hours later and Fox is already playing hardball with the rights to Fantastic Four. I would imagine Sony will follow suit with Spider-Man and Fox will pull the same crap with the film rights for X-Men and Daredevil.

By the time Disney acquires all of the rights back for X-Men, Spider-Man, Daredevil, and Fantastic Four (Which outside of the Hulk, are Marvel's 4 biggest properties) Iger will most likely not even be the CEO of the company anymore. Seems like he got ripped off.

Those are not Marvel's 4 biggest properties. Spider-Man, yes. X-Men...Maybe. Daredevil and Fantastic Four? Nope. They are important, but not it's biggest. The Avengers, Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, heck, even Deadpool are more important to them than Daredevil or the Fantastic Four at this point.

jeff.

 

[Mr Toad]

Hey folks, just because Disney acquired Marvel doesn't mean a quick, mass influx of Supers into the parks, new rides etc. That is likely years down the road. I love the idea that they acquired Marvel. It will only bring in a new source of revenue to the company. That's kinda the point...to bring in new sources of revenue.

Some people suggest that it doesn't fit anywhere but DHS...they are probably right. It might not fit anywhere but DHS. The fact is, we are going to have to accept the fact that Spidey and friends are coming to a new friendly neighborhood.

 

[SirGoofy]

I find it funny that everytime I ask the Sinister Cynics (my name for the new anti-Marvel movement) why the characters wouldn't fit in parks like DHS, no one answers.

I find that interesting.

 

[JWG]

I think people are forgetting Disney is more than a theme park. This Marvel acquisition is not about the theme parks. Will it impact the theme parks? Of course. Was it the driving force behind their decision? No.

This is about an opportunity to market programming and merchandise to a segment of the population that was sorely missing for Disney, the tween/teen male. Having a daughter, Disney is a staple in our house. Playhouse Disney and princesses rock our world. If she were a boy instead, it'd be Playhouse Disney and then time for Nick Jr. as there is nothing else.

It will take years for contracts and agreements to expire, as we've seen with the muppets. Clearly, Disney is ok with that as there is an immediate impact somewhere for them (likely in televised programming and merchandising).

This wasn't about "taking it to Universal Studios Florida" The only way Marvel leaves Universal is if Universal decides so. Not that I'm not pleased to see Universal paying their royalties to Disney :lol:

 

[jt04]

Welp less than 24 hours later and Fox is already playing hardball with the rights to Fantastic Four. I would imagine Sony will follow suit with Spider-Man and Fox will pull the same crap with the film rights for X-Men and Daredevil.

By the time Disney acquires all of the rights back for X-Men, Spider-Man, Daredevil, and Fantastic Four (Which outside of the Hulk, are Marvel's 4 biggest properties) Iger will most likely not even be the CEO of the company anymore. Seems like he got ripped off.

Ah, so I see the effect you got from the smart pill is short term.




By the way, I thought we wanted a CEO that could see passed the next quarter. Seems like we got one.

 

[Mr Toad]

It would be kinda neat to see Spidy swing from the ToT, SE or Cindy's Castle tho :lol:.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Hm..Maybe this is a BOLD statement but whatever.

I feel like at the moment the boy demographic fanbase only has 2 real franchises to cling to as where the girls have like 1000 (an exageration of course). Think about this if you will.

Toy Story and Pirates are the only 2 at the moment that stand out. Now I'm sure a lot of you will argue with me that Stich or someone such as Aladdin would be a boy crowd pleaser. But I don't think anything can beat the look of a childs face seeing Buzz or Woody , or Pirates in general.

All those old male characters that used to rock (Aladin , Hercules , etc) I doubt a lot of these little kids know who they are half of the time (depending of if they've seen the movies or not...I hope so). So maybe buying Marvel might have been the ultimate move to grab boys and older teens in to the market. I work in a supermarket and the only 2 things I ever see little boys wear on their shirts are super heroes or mickey mouse. Just think of how awesome it would be to combine both a Mickey aspect and a Spiderman aspect in the same atmosphere. Freakin incredible. of course yeah it could possibly ruin a feel of the disney atmosphere. But let's be realists here. It couldn't if it tried. Theres like 4-5 Parks (if we count downtown) in WDW.

Hell if they really could somehow...create another park...well come on now. That's just amazing.

I for one enjoy this. As long as they don't ruin the comics nor the childish enjoyment of a hero (seriously if i see Deadpool . I'm probally gonna laugh my butt off).

For boys under 12, Cars is a huge franchise for Disney. For boys 13 and older they don't have much other than Pirates. They have ties to Star Wars and Indiana Jones, but really don't get the bulk of that revenue. Adding the Marvel lineup really helps build the 13+ male demographic.

 

[hokielutz]

Oye... its fun to see the back and forth debating over this acquisition between the Uni fans and the die-hard Disney fans.

800 posts in 24 hours... keep it going! :wave:

 

[SirGoofy]

Oye... its fun to see the back and forth debating over this acquisition between the Uni fans and the die-hard Disney fans.

800 posts in 24 hours... keep it going! :wave:

I'm pretty sure this thread has gone quicker than the Fantasyland blueprint thread.:lol:

 

[lebeau]

Stan Lee said today and I quote, "this is a marriage made in heaven".

He is very happy about the deal but I guess this new sect of doomers knows better than him.

It's gonna be fine. Well for most folks anyway.

Ha!

Stan Lee has never been anything but a cheerleader for Marvel. If they announced that Marvel had been sold to the Devil, Stan Lee would say it was the best thing ever.

Excelsior!

 

[MKeeler]

I find it funny that everytime I ask the Sinister Cynics (my name for the new anti-Marvel movement) why the characters wouldn't fit in parks like DHS, no one answers.

I find that interesting.

To me, it's indicative of a lack of imagination. Though I would prefer it not to occur, I could easily see a re-theme of Future World in Epcot involving the big brains of the Marvel Universe.

Spaceship Earth - This one is tough, but I would probably leave it alone except for having narration by The Silver Surfer (always the most poetic of the MU) meaning we could replace Judi Dench with Lawrence Fishburne.

Innoventions - sponsored by Stark Industries, OsCorp, Roxxon, etc. still featuring actual innovations, but could have small exhibits on Iron Man Suits, Pym Particles, Unstable Molecules, etc.

Universe of Energy - A tour into the world of energy with a leading scientist in the area, Dr. Bruce Banner. Exploring all forms of energy including gamma radiation (uh-oh)

Mission: SPACE - Ride along with Dr. Reed Richards as you explore the outer reaches of space.

Test Track - This one's a little more difficult, but you could easily be testing a new vehicle for Stark Industries, with Tony overseeing the development.

The Seas - Explore the seas with Walter Newell and learn of the development of the Stingray personal underwater battlesuit. Meet Prince Namor and learn the importance of respecting the seas.

The Land - Meet King T'Challa and Queen Ororo and learn the importance of living in harmony with the land. Soar with Queen Ororo over the important landmarks of the world and observe their majesty.

Imagination! - Join Dreamfinder and Figment exploring your Imagination and fighting the dreaded Nightmare.

You could even bring back the Wonders of Life with Geneticists Hank Pym and Henry McCoy.

And in some ways, I believe this would be a better match of educating and entertaining than the current Epcot.

(I will again reiterate that this is not my preference, just an exercise in imagination. I would prefer to stick to the World's Fair theme, especially 1964 - bring over the Carousel of Progress to the Wonders of Life Pavillion for a World of Progress pavillion with a Blue Sky Cellar and Walt Exhibit, and then put a great Moments with Mr. Lincoln Exhibit in either Innoventions or America and I am greatly pleased).

 

[jt04]

To me, it's indicative of a lack of imagination. Though I would prefer it not to occur, I could easily see a re-theme of Future World in Epcot involving the big brains of the Marvel Universe.

Spaceship Earth - This one is tough, but I would probably leave it alone except for having narration by The Silver Surfer (always the most poetic of the MU) meaning we could replace Judi Dench with Lawrence Fishburne.

Innoventions - sponsored by Stark Industries, OsCorp, Roxxon, etc. still featuring actual innovations, but could have small exhibits on Iron Man Suits, Pym Particles, Unstable Molecules, etc.

Universe of Energy - A tour into the world of energy with a leading scientist in the area, Dr. Bruce Banner. Exploring all forms of energy including gamma radiation (uh-oh)

Mission: SPACE - Ride along with Dr. Reed Richards as you explore the outer reaches of space.

Test Track - This one's a little more difficult, but you could easily be testing a new vehicle for Stark Industries, with Tony overseeing the development.

The Seas - Explore the seas with Walter Newell and learn of the development of the Stingray personal underwater battlesuit. Meet Prince Namor and learn the importance of respecting the seas.

The Land - Meet King T'Challa and Queen Ororo and learn the importance of living in harmony with the land. Soar with Queen Ororo over the important landmarks of the world and observe their majesty.

Imagination! - Join Dreamfinder and Figment exploring your Imagination and fighting the dreaded Nightmare.

You could even bring back the Wonders of Life with Geneticists Hank Pym and Henry McCoy.

And in some ways, I believe this would be a better match of educating and entertaining than the current Epcot.

(I will again reiterate that this is not my preference, just an exercise in imagination. I would prefer to stick to the World's Fair theme, especially 1964 - bring over the Carousel of Progress to the Wonders of Life Pavillion for a World of Progress pavillion with a Blue Sky Cellar and Walt Exhibit, and then put a great Moments with Mr. Lincoln Exhibit in either Innoventions or America and I am greatly pleased).

:sohappy:

 

[SirGoofy]

I'm not saying EPCOT, though. DHS is the perfect fit for them, although I do like the idea of Stark Industries taking over Innoventions.

But people are just yelling "No! They don't fit in any of the parks!" and when I ask why, I get no answer.:lol:

 

[lebeau]

A lot of people seem to be looking at this deal in terms of how it will effect WDW. Odds are, it won't effect WDW for a very long time - if at all. Don't worry. You won't see Spider-man in Disney's FL parks for a long time. (Not that I think that would be a bad thing.)

In terms of movies, most of the big franchises are currently at other studios. Not a darn thing Disney can do about it either.

What did Disney buy? For one, they have a cash stream from all those liscenses the other studios are holding. That's free money until the film rights revert back to them. But more importantly, they can start developing new Marvel cartoons for Disney XD. I think that's what this deal came down to. That and video games.

Anything else is super long term. And it's just gravy. Unless Disney somehow screws up Marvel (which is unlikely) Disney will get their money back and then some. This looks like a win-win unless Disney kills the goose that lays the golden eggs.